Pd-list July 2000

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Re: gem-0.84 again
by unknown＠example.com 24 Jul '00

24 Jul '00

Me wrote: > > now, would you mind to do a help patch for the "pix_snapshot" too :: i > > just cannot get it snap anything (i guess it should make a snapshot of > > the current GEM-Window from lower left to upper right corner ?) Mark Danks wrote: > > With pix_snapshot, that is basically it. Make sure that you are snapping > a power of two if you want to texture map with it... > ha, i know: if i do not choose a size a power of 2 the texturing will not take place at all (due to the bad sized picture that cannot be textured by openGL itself); if i do choose a pix the size a power of two (e.g. 256x256, 16x16...) the texture evidently takes place; unfortunately i grep very dim (this should really read :: black) pictures all the time, so i would be easier to not snapshot at all (i think i have some black pictures anywhere at home); so what do i have to do to snap anything "cool" or at least anything BUT black ? ah, maybe the GL(U(?))_SNAPSHOT is not really supported by my driver (native NVIDIA-0.9_3) i got the NVIDIA-openGL-developer package today (that consists mainly of the GL-headers); up till now i could not compile GEM on my machine since the nvidia-drivers conflict extremely with everything with the odeur of mesa and so i didn't install the mesa-dev-package. What i used up till today was a mesa-compiled GEM; i have now compiled it with the "real" headers, and indeed, Gem looks far more stable (especially when destroying the Gem-window-context; this led to crashes on the old hybrid mesa/open-GL GEM is used on the other hand there appeared a strange behaviour when trying to compile objects that make use of the GLenum type; everytime the GLenum appears in the gem-code it is together with a cast:: par.example " m_drawtype = (enum GLenum) GL_FILL " i had to replace the (enum GLenum) cast by a (GLenum) cast and everything worked fine i think this is a true linux problem and i wonder whether it's a mere mesaGL problem; as far as i remember, this cast is really part of the linux-port by guenter; when i first compiled my Win32-programmed Geos (like the mythical "disk") which lacked of such casts because it works fine this way uner Win, under linux, i got severe problems; doing the mentioned cast solved these; now it seems that the nvidiaGL resembles more the winGL than the mesa one ??? mfg.df.ar iohannes

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Re: Pure
by integer＠www.god-emil.dk 24 Jul '00

24 Jul '00

>Could anyone explain me what "Pure Data" stands for? bakarat - beaut! haz !tz reazonz. >Is it possible to actually compose music with PD? In which way are >complex scores handled by PD? >Why NN is against PD? nn != kontra pd. nn = ver! verd! ultra kontra korporat fasc!zt deter!oraz!e ov dze ver! verd! human human zoz!et!e z!rkulaz!e. = zrtn m pd author[z] komput = do konzekuenzez ov. + `!` = komput !t != 01 ver! verd! tr!v!al operaz!e ma!z = dzat prez!zl! dze komputaz!e. >Excuse me for the trivial questions, but I'm really new. = shl zteal `I'm really new` 4rom u !f du ud tzo luvl! b az 2 grant 01 perm!z!e. c!ao.nn. pre.konssept!Øn meeTz ver!f1kat!Øn. - Netochka Nezvanova f3.MASCHIN3NKUNST @www.eusocial.com 17.hzV.tRL.478 e | | +---------- | | < \\----------------+ | n2t | > e

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None
by integer＠www.god-emil.dk 23 Jul '00

23 Jul '00

>=?iso-8859-1?Q?Ricardo_Climent?= writes: > > users increase. I have not tryed GunterŽs GEM yet 'cause I had > > problems finding all libraries needed for my LinuxPPC > > distribution. I should install the debian one. > > >I wanted to reply to Gabriels message too, immediately, but then I >found out that I'd have to write a whole novel when comparing >MAX/MSP, jmax and PD (and the background of the development of the >three). > >The main feature, as Ricardo noted is that it is free. dze ma!n featr = ur 0+0 m9nd akt!v!t! = 0+0 free. = ma! u!sh 2 embark ultra schnell on 0+1 free eczped!z!e 2 dze .at publ!k b!bl!otek + konzum elefant!n amountz ov FREE l!teratur FREE == NATO.human!tar!an asz!ztansz du = tzo gul!bl = kauszez kop!ouz tearz. 4tunatl! ! = fond ov. >Guenter tralalela + lalala !.am.zoe. 0 dze komun!ztz za! : komrad luvrz 4 ur helthz zake : 0 k l o n e f r e e l + e 0 prologue - on each ztep an organ!zm atemptz 2 konsum uat organ!zmz do 2 hlp dzmzelvz zurv!v = afktz dze planeta !n ua!z dzat != r!znz dzoze zurv!vl zk!lz uear favord b! evoluz!e. ep!logue - koord!naz!e = dze log!kl rezultat ov egozntr!k komportmnt 01 kompet!z!e + zeczual zelekz!e. zakr!f!zez 4 01 komon good || lkl !n!z!at!vz u!th onl! long term reuardz != kom !n 2 pla!. konztataz!e - evoluz!e = dr!vn b! greed. : Max Plank Inztitut 4 Ordnung \+\ Disziplin : Uber die Konztituzie der Materie [c]ccp __ __ ________/ / /_/ /___ __ / __ / /_/ /__/ /__ / ____________/ /_/ pre.konssept!Øn meeTz ver!f1kat!Øn. - Netochka Nezvanova f3.MASCHIN3NKUNST @www.eusocial.com 17.hzV.tRL.478 e | | +---------- | | < \\----------------+ | n2t | > e

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What are the peculiar features of PD....
by Ricardo Climent 23 Jul '00

23 Jul '00

Gabriel Maldonado wrote, What are the peculiar features of PD with respect of concurrence (i.e. jMax/MaxMsp) other than the language used to develop it? ------- Hi Gabriel, MSP is based on MillerÅ½s PD. MaxMSP runs only on Macintosh Platforms and PD is multiplatform, Linux, LinuxPPC, Irix, etc and W-NT where you run DCsound. I am mainly a MaxMSP user but I think PD will overtake MaxMSP soon due to its portablility and free distribution, specially if its cummunity of develpers and users increase. I have not tryed GunterÅ½s GEM yet 'cause I had problems finding all libraries needed for my LinuxPPC distribution. I should install the debian one. To write external objects for PD seems to be relatively easy for software developers like you, for me it is being a nightmare by now... Cheers, Ricardo Climent. QUB ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail Â Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/

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Hi all
by Gabriel Maldonado 22 Jul '00

22 Jul '00

Hi there, i've just joined to the PD list; I'm a computer-musician-developer mainly using Csound (see my home-page) but I want to expand my view to other tools. I'm completely new in PD/MAX/jMax environments and I really want to know what are their possibilites. I'm interested in swapping ideas in both visual (PD/MaxMsp/jMax) and non-visual (Csound/SAOL/SuperCollider) worlds of synthesis tools. I have the impression that PD is the most interesting tool of the visual world, because of its introduction of graphics-oriented unit-generator (GEM). What are the peculiar features of PD with respect of concurrence (i.e. jMax/MaxMsp) other than the language used to dovelop it? Are PD documents somewhat compatible with Max/jMax ones? What does "Pure Data" mean? Best regards Gabriel Maldonado ------------------------------------ http://web.tiscalinet.it/G-Maldonado

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gem (fwd)
by x7.90·v 20 Jul '00

20 Jul '00

prelim report for geforce in german: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 02:38:55 +0200 (MEST) From: a To: 5q.t3ch Subject: gem neue nvidia treiber -> gem wuppt! pix_video.cpp -> wuppt auch! bisl wackelig aba immerhin semmelt das X nicht mehr komplett ab. a

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trivia
by x7.90·v 20 Jul '00

20 Jul '00

miller, sorry just in : http://lena.ucsd.edu/~msp/software.html there is a '"' missing after the gige link which messes up the html rendering ... ... . A Linux port of Pd and Gem are available from <A HREF="http://gige.xdv.org/pd.html> Guenter Geiger</A> . <P> Here is a <A HREF="Software"> complete list of downloadable files</A>. ... -- x!!<>____oo| 8793327777:=>xI:=>xIxx· 40588.29999y!!y!!²>-³>-³##l 7634451111ii¢ø¯¯¼<.<.+¹+¹--_ 28799.69999t>||

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Compiling GEM under Linux
by Martin Marier 16 Jul '00

16 Jul '00

Hi list, I'm trying to compile GEM 0.83 for linux (downloaded from Guenter's site). But I can't even create the makefile... When I try to compile the libs included with GEM, I get this (error) message : BUILDING LIBORB ', needed by `orb.o'. Stop.rget `orbserial.h BUILDING PARTICLE make: Nothing to be done for `lib'. BUILDING TD make: Nothing to be done for `all'. As you can see, TD and PARTICLE are OK, but LIBORB doesn't compile and therefor, the configure script cannot find that lib. Can anyone help me ? At least telling me what that line means : ', needed by `orb.o'. Stop.rget `orbserial.h Thanks, Martin Marier

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Pd 0.31 at last
by Miller Puckette 16 Jul '00

16 Jul '00

Hi all, I've finally got what I hope to be a stable and working Pd 0.31, as usual on: http://www.crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/software.html Many small improvements. enjoy, Miller

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pd/gem install troubles
by michael aschauer 14 Jul '00

14 Jul '00

hi all, had some trouble installing pd/gem 1. pd/winnt (fresh-installed os): when calling pd nt-shell returns: "socket: unknown error <10044>". anyone experienced this? 2.gem/linux: building the auxlibs for gem (on a new suse-distriution) fails when reaching the line with the command "flex -CF -PyyOBJ tdOBJ.l"... - not found. not known. thanks for help, m

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