Pd-list January 1999

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FW: Re[2]: midi etc
by Guenter Geiger 15 Jan '99

15 Jan '99

-----Original Message----- From: SETA,MICHAL,MR [mailto:BVOO@MUSICB.MCGILL.CA] Sent: Thursday, January 14, 1999 8:40 AM To: guenter.geiger(a)psp-vie.be.philips.com Subject: Re[2]: midi etc > > > >Hmm .. Not too long ago MIDI really did not work, but I hoped I had fixed >this problem. Is your MIDI port detected in the startup messages ? > Yep, it runs midi on /dev/midi and doesn't complain. > >Yes, I think everybody will find that useful ... >There are a lot of documentation tasks to be done. >- The reference needs a hand (It would be great if we had the Max Alt-cli= >ck >style >of reference. This should not be too hard to implement.) That'd be great >- Of course the general manual is lacking a lot of information. I agree :) >- Tutorials ... That's part of what I was planning to do. Maybe it's just my twisted imagination but I see a possibility of newbie picking up pd. Not that I'm a seasoned pd user but I find that Max background helps a lot. > >And, of course we have to avoid duplication of effort, so the best thing = >would >be if >Kerry told us what he plans to do and where we (you :)) can help. > My idea was to do a little tutorial/getting-started-guide. Max-style. I find Max documentatio terrific so I thought it'd be nice to tailor something in a similar way. >Ah .. and if you put your HTML pages online let us know ... I will > +------------> | Michal Seta | | http://www.geocities.com/vienna/1257/ | <~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| | It's only when I know what I'm doing that it's boring | j cage | +--------------------------------------------------------+

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Re[2]: c7c9797
by SETA,MICHAL,MR 14 Jan '99

14 Jan '99

>>If you really have something to say here, please adjust your character set ... > >a.bon.l!zt pol!sz. m ! a u >= undrztood = uz + < > >>If you really have something to say here, please adjust your character set ... > >phpz please Guenter Geiger should pozt dzat !n dze pd vlkom msg jas +? >!f d!ezez l!zt = engl!sch _||- onl! should please majk !t kl!ar >!n dze `vlkom msg` tzo dzat >l!f 4rmz who != preokup!ed w!th propagat!on ov unvntfl mattr >kan z!mpl! please ovrlook ou!. > oups ....I think I see something coming our way :) > >cast an integer to symbol : : _|=~ ment!ond 1 zort ov prblm. >tzo. pardon. jetzt shall relokate 2 t!p!kl =cw4t7abs rout!n wh!ch m zerta!n >= shall enjo!++ > >zttz =cw4t7abs toutine surely is enjoyable might require a little adjustment, though... Now, I know I'm not dreaming. I've got full duplex :)) However, when I send a noteout pd decides to quit without warning. Not that I have some MIDI gear attached to the computer. I just wanted to see what's gonna happen. I did. On the subject of MIDI. Since I'm a fairly new to the intel world, can anyone tell me which port a midi interface is using? 2) how would I configure my linux box to talk with such interface a) through some mysterious connection between the sound card and said port, b) manually in /dev/something. 3) anyone aware of possibility of hacking a serial cable to adapt to my serial port in my pc and possibly using a serial MIDI interface. And on another note (pd) As I started finally playing with pd a little more seriously I found that it'd be cool to have some documentation polished up and updated. I even started doing a little HTML version of it. It's just a beginning but I'm willing to continue if there are chances someone will find it useful. Now or in the future. Any pros,cons? Hints and ideas are more than welcome. Cheers. Michal > > >

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full-duplex success
by Michael Lechasseur 13 Jan '99

13 Jan '99

Hi, Since I've posted so many messages on the subject I just wanted to report that I finally got my Sound Blaster PCI128 to work in full-duplex mode in pd. I used: the latest version of pd 0.23-7, the 2.1.132 kernel with the es1370 sound driver that comes with the 2.1.132 kernel. Actually, Guenter gave me his patched version of the driver, which turns off the monitor "feature" of the card. But the driver that comes with 2.1.132 works if you want to test it. Thanks to all that have given me advice on the subject, and especially to Guenter for the code. Michael Lechasseur

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Re: synchronized code
by Miller Puckette 13 Jan '99

13 Jan '99

>dbtopow changes were necessary on the Alpha, otherwise they would cause a floating point exception (but not sure about that anymore). Oops! you're right, log(0) is bad. I somehow got the diffs backward, and your version was right and mine wrong!!! I'll fix and update... >umain.tk was just a keybinding thing, because I thought Ctrl+ and Ctrl- are bad shortcuts on german keyboards :) ... and I realized that after I wrote. Can anyone propose sane key accelerators that work for all keyboards? Miller

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GEM:Video
by tohk＠iamas.ac.jp 13 Jan '99

13 Jan '99

Hi Im trying to run gemVideoPaint.pd on Windows98 (so my Video Capture board has not NT driver) But gemVideoPaint is not work. So give me some suggestion, please. 1. Other Windows base capture programs are working correctly. 2. Video format of driver is set to 320(w) * 240(h) * 24bit color. 3. I set parameter of gemVideoPaint.pd [dimen] for [pix video] object as [dimen 320 240]. In this condition. Status of pd was: >pd: x:320, y:240, c:24 >pd: bingo >pd: GEM: pix_video: Unable to set video format So I changed source file "pix_videoNT.cpp" as follow as line 47: // Connect to the daemon m_hWndC = capCreateCaptureWindow ( (LPSTR) "GEM video", // window name if pop-up 0, // window style (not visible) 0, 0, 320, 240, // (org128, 128) window position and dimensions hWnd, 0); line 100: videoFormat->bmiHeader.biWidth = 320; //org 128; videoFormat->bmiHeader.biHeight = 240; //org 128; and I tried it same condition on new "gem.dll" Status of pd was: >pd: x:320, y:240, c:24 >pd: bingo >pd: GEM: pix_video: Opened video connection click object of "gemVideoPaint.pd" [buffer 1], [dimen 400 400],[dimen 320 240], [offset 200 200], [create] Status of pd at this time >pd: GEM: window created and [bang] for clear the screen is working. at last I click [1] (turn on rendering) Status of pd is: >pd: yeah >pd: done >pd: year >pd: done .........repeat about 10 times At this time there is nothing on GEM winodws and few second later Computer is hung up. I must to Reboot. What should I do? ____________________ Toshinori Ohkouchi tohk(a)iamas.ac.jp

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synchronized code
by Miller Puckette 12 Jan '99

12 Jan '99

Hi Pd-ers, I went ahead and tried to synchronize my sources with Guenter's, and put the result in http://man104nfs.ucsd.edu/~mpuckett/software.html under "newer sources, not yet released." I haven't tried Guenter's table code yet... I did notice on compiling for Linux that the new s_linux.c is _way_ better than the old one on my machine. I didn't adopt 3 changes that Guenter had made: first the fancier "array" naming which really should be done be adding a dialog window (ok, ok, I know I should have put in some dialog windows a year ago at least!) and 1- and 4-line changes to dbtopow and u_main.tk, which I couldn't understand. I don't know enough about Linux to presume to make a real linux release, but I'll try now to keep my "latest" sources available to make it easier to keep in sync. cheers Miller

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Re: midi etc
by Miller Puckette 12 Jan '99

12 Jan '99

I've got some research assistant time over the next three months which should translate into some improvements in the shipped documentation... It's being done by Kerry Hagan, and coincidentally, some of it is in HTML; see http::/man104nfs.ucsd.edu/~hkagan. If you'd like to offer any additions, especially changes specific to the playform(s) you're on, that would be great! cheers Miller On Jan 12, 2:24am, SETA,MICHAL,MR wrote: > > And on another note (pd) > As I started finally playing with pd a little more seriously > I found that it'd be cool to have some documentation polished > up and updated. I even started doing a little HTML version of it. > It's just a beginning but I'm willing to continue if there > are chances someone will find it useful. Now or in the future. > Any pros,cons? Hints and ideas are more than welcome. > > Cheers. > > Michal > > > > > > > >-- End of excerpt from SETA,MICHAL,MR (As to the MIDI questions, I'm afraid I can't help with that one...)

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by guenter geiger 12 Jan '99

12 Jan '99

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Sv: Re[2]: c7c9797
by Soeren Bovbjerg 12 Jan '99

12 Jan '99

Hi. >On the subject of MIDI. >Since I'm a fairly new to the intel world, can anyone tell me >which port a midi interface is using? A standard PC-MIDI interface uses port 330, but that can be changed. Many (most) soundcards have a MIDI-interface build-in through the Joystick-port. >2) how would I configure my linux box to talk with such interface >a) through some mysterious connection between the sound card and >said port, b) manually in /dev/something. You can add a MIDI-device when compiling the kernel, either as a part of the Kernel, or as a module. The drivercode is normally a part of OSS/free, which is included in most Linux distributions (those who make you sound card work). The in/out ports of the device will automaticly be created in /dev/ as /dev/midi00 (actually midi0x if you have more than one interface, i think), and a /dev/sequencer will automaticly be created for playing MIDI-files. (As far as i know, anybody correct me if I am wrong) You shouldn't worry much about this, because PD (usually) finds and assigns the correct ports when you start it. > >3) anyone aware of possibility of hacking a serial cable >to adapt to my serial port in my pc and possibly using >a serial MIDI interface. You should check out the this link: http://crystal.apana.org.au/ghansper/MidiAxis.html I have NOT tried it, though, so I don't know if it will work. > >And on another note (pd) >As I started finally playing with pd a little more seriously >I found that it'd be cool to have some documentation polished >up and updated. I even started doing a little HTML version of it. >It's just a beginning but I'm willing to continue if there >are chances someone will find it useful. Now or in the future. >Any pros,cons? Hints and ideas are more than welcome. > This will be great. For more information and software on Linux/sound try out http://sound.lovebead.com/ http://www.xdt.com/ar/linux-snd/ Soeren Bovbjerg

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Re: c7c9797
by Miller Puckette 12 Jan '99

12 Jan '99

I think there was some reason I though casting int to symbol would cause a subtle but big problem, but now I can't remember what it was. If you throw in the "makefilename" code (my previous message) you can use that object to do the conversion explicitly; just use "makefilename %d". cheers Miller

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