Pd-list November 1998

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7 questions on pd
by Johannes Michael Zmölnig 11 Nov '98

11 Nov '98

Hi folks ! Using pd on my very slow WIN95 machine I have a few questions which I ask you to answer... 1. Is it possible to use an initialization file, and does it make any sense ? (ThatÅ½s just because I have to use thousands of flags and this is hard work, especially when trying new configurations) 2. Why is it not possible any longer to use a working directory different from '/directory/pd/bin' in release 0.23 (although it was in the earlier releases) ? (ThatÅ½s just because I canÅ½t understand why there is a BINary directory if I have to put all my trash into it by default) 3. Is it possible to save arrays as soundfiles to disk (something equivalent to the READ16 message) ? (ThatÅ½s just because I donÅ½t want to convert saved arrays to soundfiles myself all the time, although I got some very beautiful and unexpected sounds :: in NOISETRACKER-format ??:?) 4. Is it possible to use more than one (stereo) IN-/OUTput, and if so, how ? (ThatÅ½s just because I have 6 or so audio-out-devices and 2 audio-in-devices on my soundcard) 5. Is it possible to switch off the MIDI-devices like the audio-devs ? (ThatÅ½s because I use Mark DanksÅ½ GEM on a PC without a soundcard, and I feel scared every timeall those horrible error messages appear on the screen) 6. Do self-made abstractions eat up all the ressources ? (ThatÅ½s just because my Pentium wouldnÅ½t do some patches, and so did IEMÅ½s SGI!) 7. Is it clever to use a Pentium100 ? (ThatÅ½s just because I donÅ½t think so) Thanks in advance, and so on... love Johannes-feeling-sorry-for-his-English M

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PD on RedHat 5.1 - Success!
by Michael Lechasseur 11 Nov '98

11 Nov '98

You might remember that I couldn't get pd to run on a RedHat 5.1 system because of a problem with the Tcl/Tk libraries? I downloaded and compiled tcl8.0.3 and tk8.0.3 from www.scriptics.com with success. I had to install a the developer's pack for X, but that was it. I did a recompile of pd and it now loads. Now to install gem... Thanks for everyones help! Michael Lechasseur

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pd for Linux: new release 0.23-5
by Guenter Geiger 10 Nov '98

10 Nov '98

Hi all ! I just released a new version of pd for Linux. <ftp://iem.mhsg.ac.at/pd/pd_0.23-5.tar.gz> This version adds startup file support and enhanced path handling. Due to the startup file I removed the possibility of setting the path for externals via the PD_EXTERN_PATH environment variable, instead pd now understands a new option "-path <extern_path>:<extern_path>:...", which can be put into the startup file ("~/.pdrc"). This path is used for externals and pd abstractions alike. The output of this feature is currently verbose, for checking itÅ½s functionality, but this will disappear in the next release. The format of the pdrc file is very simple. Just put the options into the file, one line each, instead of using them in the command line. Additionally the segmentation fault bug in MIDI handling is fixed. Have fun ! Guenter

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Re: 7 questions on pd
by Miller Puckette 07 Nov '98

07 Nov '98

Hi Johannes, Guenter having answered 1,2,6,7, I'll take a stab at: > 3. Is it possible to save arrays as soundfiles to disk (something > equivalent to the READ16 message) ? > > (That4s just because I don4t want to convert saved arrays to soundfiles > myself all the time, although I got some very beautiful and unexpected > sounds :: in > NOISETRACKER-format ??:?) Sometime soon I'll deal with that one. THere's an ASCII "write" which you seem to know about... > 4. Is it possible to use more than one (stereo) IN-/OUTput, and if > so, how ? > (That4s just because I have 6 or so audio-out-devices and 2 > audio-in-devices on my soundcard) Pd doesn't work that way; I'd like to be able to offer something along those lines later but only in the case that the cards can be synced together. > 5. Is it possible to switch off the MIDI-devices like the audio-devs > ? > (That4s because I use Mark Danks4 GEM on a PC without a soundcard, and I > feel scared every timeall those horrible error messages appear on the > screen) No, sorry; this would be useful and I'll stick it on my dolist. Miller

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Re: Linux RPM depenancies
by Michael Lechasseur 04 Nov '98

04 Nov '98

> (called dll4s in Windows world). How did you guess? <g> > There are different possibilities what had happened: > > 1) Redhat has named the libraries slightly different. > 2) You have not installed the libraries. 2) I suspect that they're installed. I verified that these are installed: tk-8.0.2-16.i386.rpm tcl-8.0.2-16.i386.rpm tclx-8.0.2-16.i386.rpm 1) possibly renamed? from http://www.redhat.com/linux-info/pkglist/rhl-intel/tcl-8.0.2-16.i386.html tcl-8.0.2-16 RPM for i386 Provides libtcl8.0.so Files < ..partial list.. > /usr/lib/libtcl.so /usr/lib/libtcl8.0.so from http://www.redhat.com/linux-info/pkglist/rhl-intel/tk-8.0.2-16.i386.html tk-8.0.2-16 RPM for i386 Provides libtk8.0.so Files /usr/lib/libtk8.0.so > If you have installed them you should find them > in either /usr/lib or /usr/X11R6/lib or similar. Yes. /usr/lib as above. So, should I copy?: libtcl8.0.so >> to >> libtc8.0.so.1 libtk8.0.so >> to >> libtk8.0.so.1 Well, I'll try it anyways. > Well, you could try, if your system is set up correctly (compiler,... ) > then it will work. You still have to have these libraries installed I didn't get very far with that. I'll try the above first. > BTW I am using Debian, which is hard to install for a newbie too .. Well, I'm felling less and less and newbie by the minute! Thanks for all of your suggestions. Michael

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Guenthers Webpage
by math＠iem.mhsg.ac.at 04 Nov '98

04 Nov '98

hello list, guenters webpage was down once more, and I started it again today (november 4th). Sorry for this extra inconvenience. In the next days we will set up new hardware for our webserver and I hope this will fix this problem forever... btw. I am following guenter in his work at the institute for electronic music in graz. while guenter is still mantaining the pd linux port I am the one to blame if the list or the webpage goes down again. greetings norbert

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RE: Linux RPM depenancies
by Guenter Geiger 04 Nov '98

04 Nov '98

Hi ! Ok, I´m trying to be specific. First of all, I am not using Redhat, so the rpm´s are not tested, and somebody else already reported the failing dependency. One possibility would be to force a install ( there is a command line switch for rpm to do that). If you try > rpm -i --nodeps pd_0.23-5.rpm you should be able to use pd. If that doesn´t work, you can compile pd yourself, which is a little bit more complicated for a newbie. But just try that now, and report any failures (or success). Guenter ---------- From: Michael Lechasseur[SMTP:mlecha@music.mcgill.ca] Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 1998 8:27 PM To: pd-list(a)iem.mhsg.ac.at Subject: Linux RPM depenancies When I try to install pd via the .rpm file I get these failed dependencies: libtc8.0.so.1 is needed by pd-0.23-5 libtk8.0.so.1 is needed by pd-0.23-5 Where can I get these? How can I install them? Please be specific as this is my first day with Linux. any advice is appreciated.

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Linux RPM depenancies
by Michael Lechasseur 04 Nov '98

04 Nov '98

When I try to install pd via the .rpm file I get these failed dependencies: libtc8.0.so.1 is needed by pd-0.23-5 libtk8.0.so.1 is needed by pd-0.23-5 Where can I get these? How can I install them? Please be specific as this is my first day with Linux. any advice is appreciated.

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troubles compiling pd
by Vger 02 Nov '98

02 Nov '98

hi, since this is the first time i have trouble compiling pd on linux, i'll post the errormessages here. hopefully somebody has seen this before: x_arithmetic.o: In function `sin_float': x_arithmetic.o(.text+0xd8b): undefined reference to `sinf' x_arithmetic.o: In function `cos_float': x_arithmetic.o(.text+0xddb): undefined reference to `cosf' x_arithmetic.o: In function `tan_float': x_arithmetic.o(.text+0xe2f): undefined reference to `cosf' x_arithmetic.o(.text+0xe4e): undefined reference to `sinf' x_arithmetic.o: In function `atan_float': x_arithmetic.o(.text+0xeb0): undefined reference to `atanf' x_arithmetic.o: In function `atan2_float': x_arithmetic.o(.text+0xf42): undefined reference to `atan2f' x_arithmetic.o: In function `sqrt_float': x_arithmetic.o(.text+0xfd0): undefined reference to `sqrtf' x_arithmetic.o: In function `log_float': x_arithmetic.o(.text+0x104e): undefined reference to `logf' x_arithmetic.o: In function `exp_float': x_arithmetic.o(.text+0x10ca): undefined reference to `expf' make: *** [../bin/pd] Error 1 thx in advance! gert -- | || ||| || s p r a y r a z o r f i s h, hamburg Gert Brantner >> +49.(0)40.355377.25

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