Pd-dev January 2008

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sms pd external?
by Rich E 27 Jan '08

27 Jan '08

Hi Gunter Geiger, pd devs, I have recently begun to write an external for SMS synthesis, by basically porting the command line tool Xavier Serra wrote within the original SMS code (found at http://www.iua.upf.es/~sms/software/Old-SMS-for-NextStep.zip). I was talking to Xavier about this and he mentioned that you almost got an external working with sms.. Before I did too much work, I figured I would ask to see what types of problems you ran into, or if you have any suggestions. I'm also sending this to the pd-dev list to see if others have suggestions. I figure that I will start by doing just a port of the command line tool, and then later add in features for seeking through frames at any speed and direction, visually manipulating the data, and other fun things. But I would like to know what others think. regards, rich

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Re: [PD-dev] ui development / desiredata?
by chun＠goto10.org 26 Jan '08

26 Jan '08

Hi all: > is desiredata still alive? i posted a couple of messages about trying to > get an OSX version from SVN compiling a month or two ago and never got any > replies.. > DesireData has been in hibernation, let's say;) but still alive, at least i hope. hum, i didn't see your messages, i guess you have subscribed to the list? also, DesireData don't have its own SVN, its part of PD's CVS. a while ago (8 months or so) someone helped us to to get it going on OSX, but i didn't get to test out fully how well or badly it worked on OSX:/ > otherwise, what's the status on UI development? if i was to just dive > headfirst and try and fix some of the things that have been bugging me > over > the last week, is that at all useful or helpful? or is there someone i > should talk to first? > > i haven't been involved in development of any open source projects before, > and i guess i'm just not sure what the procedure normally is. > > in particular (i'm running Miller's 0.40-2 on OSX 10.4): > - i'd like to bring in the multiple-level undo code from dd, or implement > something similar AFAIK, multiple undo/redo is partially implemented in DesireData, at least the command/action histories and so. > - there seem to be some OSX-specific issues around sub-windows switching > between PD windows - apple-` doesn't switch between PD sub-windows like it > should. this could also be a Tcl/Tk issue. > - there are consistent problems with populating the Window menu > - the scrollbar down arrow is 95% hidden on the main Pd window, so > scrolling messages down involves clicking a two-pixel-high strip, which is > really hard > - i'd like to put a scrollbar on the path preferences, so more than 10 > lines can fit > - mouse cursor alignment over the outlet 'plugs' on objects is bloody > frustrating for new users (i've spent the week watching one) and it's just > an offset issue i think > - preserving newlines in comments! i don't know how possible this is (how > tied comments are to Pd's core messaging system) but i'd love to be able > to > have multi-paragraph documentation with one comment object > - occasionally when switching into a sub-window the mouse x offset is > completely munted, so Tcl/Tk thinks the mouse is way over from where it > should be > - other things i can't think of right now > > i suppose what i'm really asking is - if i went ahead and spent a week > fixing all the UI things that really bugged me, assuming my code wasn't > really stupid or ugly or bad, what's the chances my changes would make it > out into the world, and so be useful for people who aren't me? you are more than welcome to contribute to DesireData of course, though i can't really say when dd as a project will reach to the user level. but the more people helping out, the closer it will get there, i guess. on the other hand, i will be just as happy to see these changes/features in Pd mainline. if you are interested in dd, the easiest way to get hold of either matju or me will be on the irc, we are at the #desiredata channel on freenode, same as where #dataflow is. or maybe you have already visited there? hope this helps and looking forward to hear from you. cheers chun > > -- > damian stewart | +351 967 797 263 | damian(a)frey.co.nz > frey | live art with machines | http://www.frey.co.nz > > _______________________________________________ > PD-dev mailing list > PD-dev(a)iem.at > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-dev > >

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[ pure-data-Bugs-1874767 ] hostname from hcs crashes
by SourceForge.net 25 Jan '08

25 Jan '08

Bugs item #1874767, was opened at 2008-01-18 09:42 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by eighthave You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478070&aid=1874767&group_… Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: externals Group: None Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Private: No Submitted By: oli44 (oli44) >Assigned to: Hans-Christoph Steiner (eighthave) Summary: hostname from hcs crashes Initial Comment: hello, following message when banging the hostname object from hcs lib Patch: [bang( | [hostname] | [print] Debian Etch pd extended stable 20071224 olivier@puredell:~/puredata$ pd tk scaling is 1.33333333333 *** glibc detected *** malloc(): memory corruption: 0x082cc980 *** Pd: signal 6 I can repeat the bug anytime after an update to pd-e stable 20080112 olivier@puredell:~/puredata$ pd tk scaling is 1.33333333333 *** glibc detected *** malloc(): memory corruption: 0x08284f28 *** Pd: signal 6 olivier@puredell:~/puredata$ pd tk scaling is 1.33333333333 *** glibc detected *** malloc(): memory corruption: 0x08287ee8 *** Pd: signal 6 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >Comment By: Hans-Christoph Steiner (eighthave) Date: 2008-01-25 12:45 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=27104 Originator: NO Hmm, works for me on Mac OS X/Intel 10.4.11. Time to reboot into Debian... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478070&aid=1874767&group_…

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[ pure-data-Bugs-1607030 ] Pd crach when closeing patch with GOP enabled subpatch open
by SourceForge.net 25 Jan '08

25 Jan '08

Bugs item #1607030, was opened at 2006-12-01 19:24 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by stffn You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478070&aid=1607030&group_… Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: puredata Group: v0.41.0 >Status: Closed >Resolution: Fixed Priority: 5 Private: No Submitted By: stffn (stffn) Assigned to: Miller Puckette (millerpuckette) Summary: Pd crach when closeing patch with GOP enabled subpatch open Initial Comment: Pd crach when closing a patch with a GOP enabled subpatch or abstrasion is open. Attached is a patch that by following the procedure descibed in it will crash Pd. Note that the abstrasion isn't attached sine I can only attach one file. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >Comment By: stffn (stffn) Date: 2008-01-25 15:18 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1658640 Originator: YES Hurray, It got fixed by 0.41. It's mentioned in the release notes (in x5.htm). And I tested that it was true on Mac OS X.4.11 intel. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: IOhannes m zmölnig (zmoelnig) Date: 2007-10-16 11:43 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=564396 Originator: NO it also crashes with 0.41-test06 on linux ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Hans-Christoph Steiner (eighthave) Date: 2007-07-09 22:08 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=27104 Originator: NO It crashes for me too on Pd-0.39-2, Pd-0.40-2, Pd-0.39.2-extended-rc4 on Mac/Intel 10.4.10 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: stffn (stffn) Date: 2006-12-01 19:26 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1658640 Originator: YES Attached is the abstracsion need to test the part/problem related to abstrasions. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478070&aid=1607030&group_…

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Big Patches (REALLY big patches?)
by B. Bogart 23 Jan '08

23 Jan '08

What is your biggest patch? I found the more objects I have, the higher the CPU is. This is the CPU when audio is turned off and there are no control messages. The patch I'm trying to extend is somewhere between 25,000 and 27,000 objects. (using grep obj to count em) I did notice that it does not matter if they are "real" objects (solid outline) or if they are objects that did not get created (with a dotted outline). This is strange as I imagine that the source of the "baseline" cpu problem could be pointers, but I thought dotted objects, not real objects, should not have any associated pointers, so they should not contribute to the CPU... I could not get gprof to work with PD, so I'm going to give it another try with oprofile, but it may have to wait until next week. Oh and I'm running this patch on a AMD64 3200+ .b.

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[ pure-data-Bugs-1876349 ] tcpsend has an signed/unsigned bug
by SourceForge.net 21 Jan '08

21 Jan '08

Bugs item #1876349, was opened at 2008-01-21 05:09 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by mrpeach You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478070&aid=1876349&group_… Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: externals Group: None >Status: Pending Resolution: None Priority: 5 Private: No Submitted By: Winfried Ritsch (ritsch) Assigned to: Martin Peach (mrpeach) Summary: tcpsend has an signed/unsigned bug Initial Comment: if a number heigher than 127 is send to tcpsend it says number not in range 0-255, which is not true for 128-255. Reason is that vars c and d are not defined as unsigned. I attach a patch to solve the problem mfg winfried ritsch ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >Comment By: Martin Peach (mrpeach) Date: 2008-01-21 09:12 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=919007 Originator: NO Should be OK now... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478070&aid=1876349&group_…

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[ pure-data-Bugs-1876349 ] tcpsend has an signed/unsigned bug
by SourceForge.net 21 Jan '08

21 Jan '08

Bugs item #1876349, was opened at 2008-01-21 11:09 Message generated for change (Settings changed) made by ritsch You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478070&aid=1876349&group_… Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: externals Group: None Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Private: No Submitted By: Winfried Ritsch (ritsch) >Assigned to: Martin Peach (mrpeach) Summary: tcpsend has an signed/unsigned bug Initial Comment: if a number heigher than 127 is send to tcpsend it says number not in range 0-255, which is not true for 128-255. Reason is that vars c and d are not defined as unsigned. I attach a patch to solve the problem mfg winfried ritsch ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478070&aid=1876349&group_…

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[ pure-data-Bugs-1876349 ] tcpsend has an signed/unsigned bug
by SourceForge.net 21 Jan '08

21 Jan '08

Bugs item #1876349, was opened at 2008-01-21 11:09 Message generated for change (Tracker Item Submitted) made by Item Submitter You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478070&aid=1876349&group_… Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: externals Group: None Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Private: No Submitted By: Winfried Ritsch (ritsch) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: tcpsend has an signed/unsigned bug Initial Comment: if a number heigher than 127 is send to tcpsend it says number not in range 0-255, which is not true for 128-255. Reason is that vars c and d are not defined as unsigned. I attach a patch to solve the problem mfg winfried ritsch ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478070&aid=1876349&group_…

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Fork problem in os x 10.5.1?
by David Plans Casal 20 Jan '08

20 Jan '08

Hey (sorry if multiple copies of this were sent, my mail client went apeshit) Has anyone noticed yet that trying to build CVS version on 10.5.1 and running gives: 18/01/2008 11:23:23 [0x0-0x96096].org.puredata[17406] The process has forked and you cannot use this CoreFoundation functionality safely. You MUST exec(). 18/01/2008 11:23:23 [0x0-0x96096].org.puredata[17406] Break on __THE_PROCESS_HAS_FORKED_AND_YOU_CANNOT_USE_THIS_COREFOUNDATION_FUNCTIONALITY___YOU_MUST_EXEC__ () to debug. Then pd crashes after about 5 minutes. I read the following: http://developer.apple.com/technotes/tn2005/tn2083.html (search for 'listing 13') and it looks like a daemon problem: "Many Mac OS X frameworks do not work reliably if you call fork but do not call exec. The only exception is the System framework and, even there, the POSIX standard places severe constraints on what you can do between afork and an exec." which can be solved by (apparently) adopting launchd or exec'ing yourself. anyone looked at this? autobuilds (extended) and source (CVS) build seem to have the same problem, as does miller's 0.41-0 test 11 (also 0.40-2). d

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moving folders in cvs
by Rich E 19 Jan '08

19 Jan '08

Hi, I tried using the manual, still a little unsure how to do this.. I just committed externals to the cvs, oscbank~ and sdiflists. This was my first time uploading with cvs and I thought that it would automatically go in the subfolder externals/reakin. So oscbank~ is sitting in its own folder, while sdiflists is in the externals/reakin folder. I'd like to move oscbank~ into externals/reakin and keep all my externals there, does anyone know the command to do this? Also, this is how it is set up on my computer (the two projects are in pd/externals/reakin), but oscbank~ will not upload into externals/reakin. This is probably because there is some type of flag saying it is already in externals/oscbank~.. thanks for any help, rich

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