hello
The last official Gem release is 5 year old today!
5 years is a lot's of time. I usually think a project is dead after 5 years with no release, but Gem is still alive. There are lot's of update / bugfixes / new feature / help patch etc I can see about 1800 commit in Iohannes github branch since 11 11 2011. there is also some merge request that are waiting to be include in this branch.
maybe it's time to think of a new release?
I know that a release is a lot's of work. And I don't know if anyone is still able to compile Gem for recent OSX, or windows. But without any release, users will disappear, and development will slowly fade away.
So, is there something that need to be done before creating a new release? is it just a lack of time / motivation that prevent releasing? or just that Gem is now only for linux?
What could be done to facilitate a new release? Or should I just send mails to Iohannes until he get bored and do all the job?
cheers, Cyrille
hey cyrille,
i would be up for testing on OSX. it has compiled before for me (last year) but we are still missing working AVFoundation plugin, New Sierra still has Quicktime framework but am assuming it will be gone next release.... so I agree, this is probably the best time to push forward with a release.
maybe a meet up / discussion in NYC pdcon could be motivational...
cheers m
On Fri, Nov 11, 2016 at 11:11 AM, cyrille henry ch@chnry.net wrote:
hello
The last official Gem release is 5 year old today!
5 years is a lot's of time. I usually think a project is dead after 5 years with no release, but Gem is still alive. There are lot's of update / bugfixes / new feature / help patch etc I can see about 1800 commit in Iohannes github branch since 11 11 2011. there is also some merge request that are waiting to be include in this branch.
maybe it's time to think of a new release?
I know that a release is a lot's of work. And I don't know if anyone is still able to compile Gem for recent OSX, or windows. But without any release, users will disappear, and development will slowly fade away.
So, is there something that need to be done before creating a new release? is it just a lack of time / motivation that prevent releasing? or just that Gem is now only for linux?
What could be done to facilitate a new release? Or should I just send mails to Iohannes until he get bored and do all the job?
cheers, Cyrille
GEM-dev mailing list GEM-dev@lists.iem.at https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/gem-dev
We’d be happy to accommodate that as it is a big issue. IOhannes, would you be up for that? J
On Nov 11, 2016, at 11:41 AM, me.grimm megrimm@gmail.com wrote:
hey cyrille,
i would be up for testing on OSX. it has compiled before for me (last year) but we are still missing working AVFoundation plugin, New Sierra still has Quicktime framework but am assuming it will be gone next release.... so I agree, this is probably the best time to push forward with a release.
maybe a meet up / discussion in NYC pdcon could be motivational...
cheers m
On Fri, Nov 11, 2016 at 11:11 AM, cyrille henry <ch@chnry.net mailto:ch@chnry.net> wrote: hello
The last official Gem release is 5 year old today!
5 years is a lot's of time. I usually think a project is dead after 5 years with no release, but Gem is still alive. There are lot's of update / bugfixes / new feature / help patch etc I can see about 1800 commit in Iohannes github branch since 11 11 2011. there is also some merge request that are waiting to be include in this branch.
maybe it's time to think of a new release?
I know that a release is a lot's of work. And I don't know if anyone is still able to compile Gem for recent OSX, or windows. But without any release, users will disappear, and development will slowly fade away.
So, is there something that need to be done before creating a new release? is it just a lack of time / motivation that prevent releasing? or just that Gem is now only for linux?
What could be done to facilitate a new release? Or should I just send mails to Iohannes until he get bored and do all the job?
cheers, Cyrille
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I am a proud Gem user too. Would gladly join the discussion in NY. After 18th would be suitable fir me too. Best,
Popesz
On Friday, November 11, 2016, Jaime Oliver jaime.oliver2@gmail.com wrote:
We’d be happy to accommodate that as it is a big issue. IOhannes, would you be up for that? J
On Nov 11, 2016, at 11:41 AM, me.grimm megrimm@gmail.com wrote: hey cyrille, i would be up for testing on OSX. it has compiled before for me (last
year) but we are still missing working AVFoundation plugin, New Sierra still has Quicktime framework but am assuming it will be gone next release.... so I agree, this is probably the best time to push forward with a release.
maybe a meet up / discussion in NYC pdcon could be motivational... cheers m On Fri, Nov 11, 2016 at 11:11 AM, cyrille henry ch@chnry.net wrote:
hello
The last official Gem release is 5 year old today!
5 years is a lot's of time. I usually think a project is dead after 5 years with no release, but Gem
is still alive.
There are lot's of update / bugfixes / new feature / help patch etc I can see about 1800 commit in Iohannes github branch since 11 11 2011. there is also some merge request that are waiting to be include in this
branch.
maybe it's time to think of a new release?
I know that a release is a lot's of work. And I don't know if anyone is
still able to compile Gem for recent OSX, or windows.
But without any release, users will disappear, and development will
slowly fade away.
So, is there something that need to be done before creating a new
release?
is it just a lack of time / motivation that prevent releasing? or just that Gem is now only for linux?
What could be done to facilitate a new release? Or should I just send mails to Iohannes until he get bored and do all
the job?
cheers, Cyrille
GEM-dev mailing list GEM-dev@lists.iem.at https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/gem-dev
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Hi all,
If IOhannes is interested we could host it during our final roundtable sessions.
If however, you’d all be interested in having a workbench session like the one Katja is doing for Pd and library compilation we could arrange something like that too..
best,
Jaime
On Nov 11, 2016, at 12:03 PM, Csaba Láng langcsaba@gmail.com wrote:
I am a proud Gem user too. Would gladly join the discussion in NY. After 18th would be suitable fir me too. Best,
Popesz
On Friday, November 11, 2016, Jaime Oliver <jaime.oliver2@gmail.com mailto:jaime.oliver2@gmail.com> wrote:
We’d be happy to accommodate that as it is a big issue. IOhannes, would you be up for that? J
On Nov 11, 2016, at 11:41 AM, me.grimm <megrimm@gmail.com mailto:megrimm@gmail.com> wrote: hey cyrille, i would be up for testing on OSX. it has compiled before for me (last year) but we are still missing working AVFoundation plugin, New Sierra still has Quicktime framework but am assuming it will be gone next release.... so I agree, this is probably the best time to push forward with a release. maybe a meet up / discussion in NYC pdcon could be motivational... cheers m On Fri, Nov 11, 2016 at 11:11 AM, cyrille henry <ch@chnry.net mailto:ch@chnry.net> wrote:
hello
The last official Gem release is 5 year old today!
5 years is a lot's of time. I usually think a project is dead after 5 years with no release, but Gem is still alive. There are lot's of update / bugfixes / new feature / help patch etc I can see about 1800 commit in Iohannes github branch since 11 11 2011. there is also some merge request that are waiting to be include in this branch.
maybe it's time to think of a new release?
I know that a release is a lot's of work. And I don't know if anyone is still able to compile Gem for recent OSX, or windows. But without any release, users will disappear, and development will slowly fade away.
So, is there something that need to be done before creating a new release? is it just a lack of time / motivation that prevent releasing? or just that Gem is now only for linux?
What could be done to facilitate a new release? Or should I just send mails to Iohannes until he get bored and do all the job?
cheers, Cyrille
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Le 11/11/2016 à 17:53, Jaime Oliver a écrit :
We’d be happy to accommodate that as it is a big issue.
i will not be there, but to meet and to talk about Gem is certainly a good starting point...
cheers
IOhannes, would you be up for that? J
On Nov 11, 2016, at 11:41 AM, me.grimm <megrimm@gmail.com mailto:megrimm@gmail.com> wrote:
hey cyrille,
i would be up for testing on OSX. it has compiled before for me (last year) but we are still missing working AVFoundation plugin, New Sierra still has Quicktime framework but am assuming it will be gone next release.... so I agree, this is probably the best time to push forward with a release.
maybe a meet up / discussion in NYC pdcon could be motivational...
cheers m
On Fri, Nov 11, 2016 at 11:11 AM, cyrille henry <ch@chnry.net mailto:ch@chnry.net> wrote:
hello The last official Gem release is 5 year old today! 5 years is a lot's of time. I usually think a project is dead after 5 years with no release, but Gem is still alive. There are lot's of update / bugfixes / new feature / help patch etc I can see about 1800 commit in Iohannes github branch since 11 11 2011. there is also some merge request that are waiting to be include in this branch. maybe it's time to think of a new release? I know that a release is a lot's of work. And I don't know if anyone is still able to compile Gem for recent OSX, or windows. But without any release, users will disappear, and development will slowly fade away. So, is there something that need to be done before creating a new release? is it just a lack of time / motivation that prevent releasing? or just that Gem is now only for linux? What could be done to facilitate a new release? Or should I just send mails to Iohannes until he get bored and do all the job? cheers, Cyrille _______________________________________________ GEM-dev mailing list GEM-dev@lists.iem.at <mailto:GEM-dev@lists.iem.at> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/gem-dev <https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/gem-dev>-- ____________________ m.e.grimm, m.f.a, ed.m. syracuse u., tc3 megrimm.net http://megrimm.net/ ____________________ _______________________________________________ GEM-dev mailing list GEM-dev@lists.iem.at mailto:GEM-dev@lists.iem.at https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/gem-dev
Hello,
Did you had the opportunity to discuss this topic in pdcon? Best,
n
Le 13/11/2016 à 10:28, cyrille henry a écrit :
Le 11/11/2016 à 17:53, Jaime Oliver a écrit :
We’d be happy to accommodate that as it is a big issue.
i will not be there, but to meet and to talk about Gem is certainly a good starting point...
cheers
IOhannes, would you be up for that? J
On Nov 11, 2016, at 11:41 AM, me.grimm <megrimm@gmail.com mailto:megrimm@gmail.com> wrote:
hey cyrille,
i would be up for testing on OSX. it has compiled before for me (last year) but we are still missing working AVFoundation plugin, New Sierra still has Quicktime framework but am assuming it will be gone next release.... so I agree, this is probably the best time to push forward with a release.
maybe a meet up / discussion in NYC pdcon could be motivational...
cheers m
On Fri, Nov 11, 2016 at 11:11 AM, cyrille henry <ch@chnry.net mailto:ch@chnry.net> wrote:
hello The last official Gem release is 5 year old today! 5 years is a lot's of time. I usually think a project is dead after 5 years with no release,but Gem is still alive. There are lot's of update / bugfixes / new feature / help patch etc I can see about 1800 commit in Iohannes github branch since 11 11 2011. there is also some merge request that are waiting to be include in this branch.
maybe it's time to think of a new release? I know that a release is a lot's of work. And I don't know ifanyone is still able to compile Gem for recent OSX, or windows. But without any release, users will disappear, and development will slowly fade away.
So, is there something that need to be done before creating anew release? is it just a lack of time / motivation that prevent releasing? or just that Gem is now only for linux?
What could be done to facilitate a new release? Or should I just send mails to Iohannes until he get bored anddo all the job?
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On 2016-11-21 13:21, Nicolas Montgermont via GEM-dev wrote:
Hello,
Did you had the opportunity to discuss this topic in pdcon?
unfortunately we did not. (it was scheduled for sunday morning; but then program ran a bit late on sunday (due to excessive drink consumption) and i had to catch my plane.
so we just need to do that, - either on this mailing list OR - on IRC
fgmasdf IOhannes
hello,
maybe we can try starting on the mailing list, and if a specific question need to be discuss, we can join on IRC.
So, the questions i've got are : - is a mandatory feature is missing? - is help files up to date with all new functionalities? - what need to be done to compile on osX? - what need to be done to compile on windows? - is there anything else?
cheers c
Le 22/11/2016 à 09:44, IOhannes m zmoelnig a écrit :
On 2016-11-21 13:21, Nicolas Montgermont via GEM-dev wrote:
Hello,
Did you had the opportunity to discuss this topic in pdcon?
unfortunately we did not. (it was scheduled for sunday morning; but then program ran a bit late on sunday (due to excessive drink consumption) and i had to catch my plane.
so we just need to do that,
- either on this mailing list
OR
- on IRC
fgmasdf IOhannes
GEM-dev mailing list GEM-dev@lists.iem.at https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/gem-dev
there is also github for logging, discussing and closing issues that might be helpful....
- what need to be done to compile on osX?
just compiled on 10.12 (sierra) when i got home. the github instructions work with the exception that "--without-quicktime-framework" flag is needed because all headers, etc were removed in the most recent Xcode, apparently due to depreciation next year I assume.
the ofx people have a solution to download the 10.11 sdk and add it to xcode to compile with Quicktime for 10.12 although again, Quicktime will be completely removed in next OSX release... so do we bother with dealing with Quicktime anymore at all or just put time and resource into finishing what Dan started with the AVFoundation plugin?
so film, image and capture are broken on OSX AFAIK
another solution might be to go the gmerlin route but im not sure if burkhard still maintains it, and if so if it is even worth the effort IDK... but with this scenario Apple is left out of the equation so in the future whatever they depreciate, etc will have less bearing on future dev.... but maybe im wrong about this. also i do not think gmerlin does capture.
m
On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 6:47 AM, cyrille henry ch@chnry.net wrote:
hello,
maybe we can try starting on the mailing list, and if a specific question need to be discuss, we can join on IRC.
So, the questions i've got are :
- is a mandatory feature is missing?
- is help files up to date with all new functionalities?
- what need to be done to compile on osX?
- what need to be done to compile on windows?
- is there anything else?
cheers c
Le 22/11/2016 à 09:44, IOhannes m zmoelnig a écrit :
On 2016-11-21 13:21, Nicolas Montgermont via GEM-dev wrote:
Hello,
Did you had the opportunity to discuss this topic in pdcon?
unfortunately we did not. (it was scheduled for sunday morning; but then program ran a bit late on sunday (due to excessive drink consumption) and i had to catch my plane.
so we just need to do that,
- either on this mailing list
OR
- on IRC
fgmasdf IOhannes
GEM-dev mailing list GEM-dev@lists.iem.at https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/gem-dev
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On 2016-11-22 13:44, me.grimm wrote:
another solution might be to go the gmerlin route but im not sure if burkhard still maintains it,
maintenance of gmerlin seems to be at a bare minimum. last time i talked with burkhard about it, he was surprised to learn that there are still applications using it (apart from his own).
fgmasdr IOhannes
On 11/22/2016 01:44 PM, me.grimm wrote:
there is also github for logging, discussing and closing issues that might
speaking of github: i'd like some community feedback about PR123.
https://github.com/umlaeute/Gem/pull/123
i sincerely dislike "backend" selector for switching between the actual model-loader backends (i think this name makes sense from a coding perspective; i'm pretty sure that it doesn't on the patch-level)
suggestions for a better name are therefore highly welcome (either on the PR, or here)
gfadsr IOhannes
i'm for "loader" c
Le 22/11/2016 à 16:19, IOhannes m zmölnig a écrit :
On 11/22/2016 01:44 PM, me.grimm wrote:
there is also github for logging, discussing and closing issues that might
speaking of github: i'd like some community feedback about PR123.
https://github.com/umlaeute/Gem/pull/123
i sincerely dislike "backend" selector for switching between the actual model-loader backends (i think this name makes sense from a coding perspective; i'm pretty sure that it doesn't on the patch-level)
suggestions for a better name are therefore highly welcome (either on the PR, or here)
gfadsr IOhannes
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Hello,
Le 22/11/2016 à 12:47, cyrille henry a écrit :
hello,
maybe we can try starting on the mailing list, and if a specific question need to be discuss, we can join on IRC.
So, the questions i've got are :
- is a mandatory feature is missing?
- is help files up to date with all new functionalities?
- what need to be done to compile on osX?
- what need to be done to compile on windows?
Is there enough abstractions using shaders for simple effects like contrast, brightness, hue, saturation, etc. that can replace pix_* objects. Is there enough examples/99.games (or something else) as "case study" ? ++
Jack
- is there anything else?
cheers c
Le 22/11/2016 à 09:44, IOhannes m zmoelnig a écrit :
On 2016-11-21 13:21, Nicolas Montgermont via GEM-dev wrote:
Hello,
Did you had the opportunity to discuss this topic in pdcon?
unfortunately we did not. (it was scheduled for sunday morning; but then program ran a bit late on sunday (due to excessive drink consumption) and i had to catch my plane.
so we just need to do that,
- either on this mailing list
OR
- on IRC
fgmasdf IOhannes
GEM-dev mailing list GEM-dev@lists.iem.at https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/gem-dev
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Le 22/11/2016 à 14:39, Jack a écrit :
Hello,
Le 22/11/2016 à 12:47, cyrille henry a écrit :
hello,
maybe we can try starting on the mailing list, and if a specific question need to be discuss, we can join on IRC.
So, the questions i've got are :
- is a mandatory feature is missing?
- is help files up to date with all new functionalities?
- what need to be done to compile on osX?
- what need to be done to compile on windows?
Is there enough abstractions using shaders for simple effects like contrast, brightness, hue, saturation, etc. that can replace pix_* objects.
Nowdays, there are lot's of online resource about shaders. I think Gem provide the minimum to understand how to work with shaders in Gem.
I have no plan to create more shader example, unless i've missed an important feature. But is someone else want to create more example, he is welcome.
Is there enough examples/99.games (or something else) as "case study" ?
there will never be enough! ;-) but again, adding more should slow down a release cycle.
cheers c
++
Jack
- is there anything else?
cheers c
Le 22/11/2016 à 09:44, IOhannes m zmoelnig a écrit :
On 2016-11-21 13:21, Nicolas Montgermont via GEM-dev wrote:
Hello,
Did you had the opportunity to discuss this topic in pdcon?
unfortunately we did not. (it was scheduled for sunday morning; but then program ran a bit late on sunday (due to excessive drink consumption) and i had to catch my plane.
so we just need to do that,
- either on this mailing list
OR
- on IRC
fgmasdf IOhannes
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Le 22 nov. 2016 à 11:42, cyrille henry ch@chnry.net a écrit :
Le 22/11/2016 à 14:39, Jack a écrit : Hello,
Le 22/11/2016 à 12:47, cyrille henry a écrit : hello,
maybe we can try starting on the mailing list, and if a specific question need to be discuss, we can join on IRC.
So, the questions i've got are :
- is a mandatory feature is missing?
- is help files up to date with all new functionalities?
- what need to be done to compile on osX?
- what need to be done to compile on windows?
Is there enough abstractions using shaders for simple effects like contrast, brightness, hue, saturation, etc. that can replace pix_* objects.
Nowdays, there are lot's of online resource about shaders. I think Gem provide the minimum to understand how to work with shaders in Gem.
I have no plan to create more shader example, unless i've missed an important feature. But is someone else want to create more example, he is welcome.
I copied the entire Book of Shaders examples for pd about a year ago, and with the help of Dan Wilcox made it so you can copy-paste Shadertoy examples straight into Pd as well.
You can find it here under graphics: https://github.com/danomatika/BangYourHead
Is there enough examples/99.games (or something else) as "case study" ?
there will never be enough! ;-) but again, adding more should slow down a release cycle.
cheers c
++
Jack
- is there anything else?
cheers c
Le 22/11/2016 à 09:44, IOhannes m zmoelnig a écrit :
On 2016-11-21 13:21, Nicolas Montgermont via GEM-dev wrote: Hello,
Did you had the opportunity to discuss this topic in pdcon?
unfortunately we did not. (it was scheduled for sunday morning; but then program ran a bit late on sunday (due to excessive drink consumption) and i had to catch my plane.
so we just need to do that,
- either on this mailing list
OR
- on IRC
fgmasdf IOhannes
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Le 22/11/2016 à 18:20, Sofy Yuditskaya a écrit :
Le 22 nov. 2016 à 11:42, cyrille henry <ch@chnry.net mailto:ch@chnry.net> a écrit :
Le 22/11/2016 à 14:39, Jack a écrit :
Hello,
Le 22/11/2016 à 12:47, cyrille henry a écrit :
hello,
maybe we can try starting on the mailing list, and if a specific question need to be discuss, we can join on IRC.
So, the questions i've got are :
- is a mandatory feature is missing?
- is help files up to date with all new functionalities?
- what need to be done to compile on osX?
- what need to be done to compile on windows?
Is there enough abstractions using shaders for simple effects like contrast, brightness, hue, saturation, etc. that can replace pix_* objects.
Nowdays, there are lot's of online resource about shaders. I think Gem provide the minimum to understand how to work with shaders in Gem.
I have no plan to create more shader example, unless i've missed an important feature. But is someone else want to create more example, he is welcome.
I copied the entire Book of Shaders examples for pd about a year ago, and with the help of Dan Wilcox made it so you can copy-paste Shadertoy examples straight into Pd as well.
You can find it here under graphics: https://github.com/danomatika/BangYourHead
there is a lot of nice shaders in there.
when making this collection, did you experience problem that was not addressed in the basic shaders examples? cyrille
Is there enough examples/99.games (or something else) as "case study" ?
there will never be enough! ;-) but again, adding more should slow down a release cycle.
cheers c
++
Jack
- is there anything else?
cheers c
Le 22/11/2016 à 09:44, IOhannes m zmoelnig a écrit :
On 2016-11-21 13:21, Nicolas Montgermont via GEM-dev wrote:
Hello,
Did you had the opportunity to discuss this topic in pdcon?
unfortunately we did not. (it was scheduled for sunday morning; but then program ran a bit late on sunday (due to excessive drink consumption) and i had to catch my plane.
so we just need to do that,
- either on this mailing list
OR
- on IRC
fgmasdf IOhannes
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No Cyrille, it all worked right away--super simple :)
Sofy Yuditskaya s~ http://yuditskaya.com
On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 1:58 PM, cyrille henry ch@chnry.net wrote:
Le 22/11/2016 à 18:20, Sofy Yuditskaya a écrit :
Le 22 nov. 2016 à 11:42, cyrille henry <ch@chnry.net mailto:ch@chnry.net> a écrit :
Le 22/11/2016 à 14:39, Jack a écrit :
Hello,
Le 22/11/2016 à 12:47, cyrille henry a écrit :
hello,
maybe we can try starting on the mailing list, and if a specific question need to be discuss, we can join on IRC.
So, the questions i've got are :
- is a mandatory feature is missing?
- is help files up to date with all new functionalities?
- what need to be done to compile on osX?
- what need to be done to compile on windows?
Is there enough abstractions using shaders for simple effects like contrast, brightness, hue, saturation, etc. that can replace pix_* objects.
Nowdays, there are lot's of online resource about shaders. I think Gem provide the minimum to understand how to work with shaders in Gem.
I have no plan to create more shader example, unless i've missed an important feature. But is someone else want to create more example, he is welcome.
I copied the entire Book of Shaders examples for pd about a year ago, and with the help of Dan Wilcox made it so you can copy-paste Shadertoy examples straight into Pd as well.
You can find it here under graphics: https://github.com/danomatika/ BangYourHead
there is a lot of nice shaders in there.
when making this collection, did you experience problem that was not addressed in the basic shaders examples? cyrille
Is there enough examples/99.games (or something else) as "case study" ?
there will never be enough! ;-) but again, adding more should slow down a release cycle.
cheers c
++
Jack
- is there anything else?
cheers c
Le 22/11/2016 à 09:44, IOhannes m zmoelnig a écrit :
On 2016-11-21 13:21, Nicolas Montgermont via GEM-dev wrote:
> Hello, > > Did you had the opportunity to discuss this topic in pdcon? >
unfortunately we did not. (it was scheduled for sunday morning; but then program ran a bit late on sunday (due to excessive drink consumption) and i had to catch my plane.
so we just need to do that,
- either on this mailing list
OR
- on IRC
fgmasdf IOhannes
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great! so i guess the current shader collection in gem exemple is ok.
However, this is a nice collection, and deserved to be advertised for people looking for example. how about adding the link to :
http://puredata.info/downloads
?
cheers Cyrille
Le 23/11/2016 à 23:05, sonia yuditskaya a écrit :
No Cyrille, it all worked right away--super simple :)
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Le 22/11/2016 à 18:20, Sofy Yuditskaya a écrit : Le 22 nov. 2016 à 11:42, cyrille henry <ch@chnry.net <mailto:ch@chnry.net> <mailto:ch@chnry.net <mailto:ch@chnry.net>>> a écrit : Le 22/11/2016 à 14:39, Jack a écrit : Hello, Le 22/11/2016 à 12:47, cyrille henry a écrit : hello, maybe we can try starting on the mailing list, and if a specific question need to be discuss, we can join on IRC. So, the questions i've got are : - is a mandatory feature is missing? - is help files up to date with all new functionalities? - what need to be done to compile on osX? - what need to be done to compile on windows? Is there enough abstractions using shaders for simple effects like contrast, brightness, hue, saturation, etc. that can replace pix_* objects. Nowdays, there are lot's of online resource about shaders. I think Gem provide the minimum to understand how to work with shaders in Gem. I have no plan to create more shader example, unless i've missed an important feature. But is someone else want to create more example, he is welcome. I copied the entire Book of Shaders examples for pd about a year ago, and with the help of Dan Wilcox made it so you can copy-paste Shadertoy examples straight into Pd as well. You can find it here under graphics: https://github.com/danomatika/BangYourHead <https://github.com/danomatika/BangYourHead> there is a lot of nice shaders in there. when making this collection, did you experience problem that was not addressed in the basic shaders examples? cyrille Is there enough examples/99.games (or something else) as "case study" ? there will never be enough! ;-) but again, adding more should slow down a release cycle. cheers c ++ Jack - is there anything else? cheers c Le 22/11/2016 à 09:44, IOhannes m zmoelnig a écrit : On 2016-11-21 13:21, Nicolas Montgermont via GEM-dev wrote: Hello, Did you had the opportunity to discuss this topic in pdcon? unfortunately we did not. (it was scheduled for sunday morning; but then program ran a bit late on sunday (due to excessive drink consumption) and i had to catch my plane. so we just need to do that, - either on this mailing list OR - on IRC fgmasdf IOhannes _______________________________________________ GEM-dev mailing list GEM-dev@lists.iem.at <mailto:GEM-dev@lists.iem.at> <mailto:GEM-dev@lists.iem.at <mailto:GEM-dev@lists.iem.at>> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/gem-dev <https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/gem-dev> _______________________________________________ GEM-dev mailing list GEM-dev@lists.iem.at <mailto:GEM-dev@lists.iem.at> <mailto:GEM-dev@lists.iem.at <mailto:GEM-dev@lists.iem.at>> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/gem-dev <https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/gem-dev> _______________________________________________ GEM-dev mailing list GEM-dev@lists.iem.at <mailto:GEM-dev@lists.iem.at> <mailto:GEM-dev@lists.iem.at <mailto:GEM-dev@lists.iem.at>> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/gem-dev <https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/gem-dev> _______________________________________________ GEM-dev mailing list GEM-dev@lists.iem.at <mailto:GEM-dev@lists.iem.at> <mailto:GEM-dev@lists.iem.at <mailto:GEM-dev@lists.iem.at>> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/gem-dev <https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/gem-dev> _______________________________________________ GEM-dev mailing list GEM-dev@lists.iem.at <mailto:GEM-dev@lists.iem.at> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/gem-dev <https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/gem-dev> _______________________________________________ GEM-dev mailing list GEM-dev@lists.iem.at <mailto:GEM-dev@lists.iem.at> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/gem-dev <https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/gem-dev>
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A friend of mine (aptly named John Camera) has started working on the GEM code recently with a focus mainly on Windows. He has updated some of the build stuff and a few internals to make it build/run on Win10 and latest VS.
Also, he has expressed interest in attempting the GL ES port or looking into WebGL.
On Fri, Nov 11, 2016 at 11:11 AM, cyrille henry ch@chnry.net wrote:
hello
The last official Gem release is 5 year old today!
5 years is a lot's of time. I usually think a project is dead after 5 years with no release, but Gem is still alive. There are lot's of update / bugfixes / new feature / help patch etc I can see about 1800 commit in Iohannes github branch since 11 11 2011. there is also some merge request that are waiting to be include in this branch.
maybe it's time to think of a new release?
I know that a release is a lot's of work. And I don't know if anyone is still able to compile Gem for recent OSX, or windows. But without any release, users will disappear, and development will slowly fade away.
So, is there something that need to be done before creating a new release? is it just a lack of time / motivation that prevent releasing? or just that Gem is now only for linux?
What could be done to facilitate a new release? Or should I just send mails to Iohannes until he get bored and do all the job?
cheers, Cyrille
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On 11/22/2016 04:08 PM, Chris Clepper wrote:
A friend of mine (aptly named John Camera) has started working on the GEM code recently with a focus mainly on Windows. He has updated some of the build stuff and a few internals to make it build/run on Win10 and latest VS.
cool. do you think he would be inclined to do a pull-request on github?
gfmards IOhannes
I will ask him.
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On 11/22/2016 04:08 PM, Chris Clepper wrote:
A friend of mine (aptly named John Camera) has started working on the GEM code recently with a focus mainly on Windows. He has updated some of the build stuff and a few internals to make it build/run on Win10 and latest VS.
cool. do you think he would be inclined to do a pull-request on github?
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Hello,
Le 22/11/2016 à 16:08, Chris Clepper a écrit :
A friend of mine (aptly named John Camera) has started working on the GEM code recently with a focus mainly on Windows. He has updated some of the build stuff and a few internals to make it build/run on Win10 and latest VS.
Also, he has expressed interest in attempting the GL ES port or looking into WebGL.
+1 openGL ES +2 webGL ;)
++
Jack
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hello The last official Gem release is 5 year old today! 5 years is a lot's of time. I usually think a project is dead after 5 years with no release, but Gem is still alive. There are lot's of update / bugfixes / new feature / help patch etc I can see about 1800 commit in Iohannes github branch since 11 11 2011. there is also some merge request that are waiting to be include in this branch. maybe it's time to think of a new release? I know that a release is a lot's of work. And I don't know if anyone is still able to compile Gem for recent OSX, or windows. But without any release, users will disappear, and development will slowly fade away. So, is there something that need to be done before creating a new release? is it just a lack of time / motivation that prevent releasing? or just that Gem is now only for linux? What could be done to facilitate a new release? Or should I just send mails to Iohannes until he get bored and do all the job? cheers, Cyrille _______________________________________________ GEM-dev mailing list GEM-dev@lists.iem.at <mailto:GEM-dev@lists.iem.at> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/gem-dev <https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/gem-dev>
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Le 22/11/2016 à 16:41, Jack a écrit :
Hello,
Le 22/11/2016 à 16:08, Chris Clepper a écrit :
A friend of mine (aptly named John Camera) has started working on the GEM code recently with a focus mainly on Windows. He has updated some of the build stuff and a few internals to make it build/run on Win10 and latest VS.
Also, he has expressed interest in attempting the GL ES port or looking into WebGL.
+1 openGL ES +2 webGL ;)
yes, it sound exiting! My only concern is about development time: I think creating a release now and include this development for the next one (hopefully not in 5 years) is the way to go.
cheers C
++
Jack
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The last official Gem release is 5 year old today!
5.5 years now.... maybe with new pd on horizon we can motivate to pull new gem release together
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hello
The last official Gem release is 5 year old today!
5 years is a lot's of time. I usually think a project is dead after 5 years with no release, but Gem is still alive. There are lot's of update / bugfixes / new feature / help patch etc I can see about 1800 commit in Iohannes github branch since 11 11 2011. there is also some merge request that are waiting to be include in this branch.
maybe it's time to think of a new release?
I know that a release is a lot's of work. And I don't know if anyone is still able to compile Gem for recent OSX, or windows. But without any release, users will disappear, and development will slowly fade away.
So, is there something that need to be done before creating a new release? is it just a lack of time / motivation that prevent releasing? or just that Gem is now only for linux?
What could be done to facilitate a new release? Or should I just send mails to Iohannes until he get bored and do all the job?
cheers, Cyrille
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