Pd-dev November 2007

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[ pure-data-Bugs-1828573 ] [declare]: '-stdpath' doesn't work on OS X
by SourceForge.net 09 Nov '07

09 Nov '07

Bugs item #1828573, was opened at 2007-11-08 13:00 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by nobody You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478070&aid=1828573&group_… Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: puredata Group: v0.40.2 Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Private: No Submitted By: Roman Haefeli (reduzent) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: [declare]: '-stdpath' doesn't work on OS X Initial Comment: at least it doesn't work the same as on windows and linux. to add a path from extra directory, on windows and linux it works like this: [declare -stdpath ../extra/<somedir>] however, on OS X this doesn't work. although i asked the list several times, it seems that noone has ever managed to add a path using '-stdpath' on OS X. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Date: 2007-11-08 15:32 Message: Logged In: NO I can confirm for Linux and http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/Software/pd-0.41-0test06.src.tar.gz Here [declare -stdpath XX] acts the same as [declare -path XX] which means it searches relative to the patchfile containing the declare-ation. I tested this by starting Pd with -verbose and looking in the error output when trying to create an non-existing object in a patch with the declare-ation. -- Frank Barknecht (who was too lazy to login...) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478070&aid=1828573&group_…

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[ pure-data-Bugs-1828568 ] [declare]: helpfile is missing
by SourceForge.net 08 Nov '07

08 Nov '07

Bugs item #1828568, was opened at 2007-11-08 21:56 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by stffn You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478070&aid=1828568&group_… Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: puredata Group: v0.40.2 Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Private: No Submitted By: Roman Haefeli (reduzent) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: [declare]: helpfile is missing Initial Comment: the helpfile of [declare] is missing ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: stffn (stffn) Date: 2007-11-08 22:19 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1658640 Originator: NO It's in the source tar-ball from Millers site. But not in CVS. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478070&aid=1828568&group_…

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[ pure-data-Bugs-1828573 ] [declare]: '-stdpath' doesn't work on OS X
by SourceForge.net 08 Nov '07

08 Nov '07

Bugs item #1828573, was opened at 2007-11-08 21:00 Message generated for change (Tracker Item Submitted) made by Item Submitter You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478070&aid=1828573&group_… Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: puredata Group: v0.40.2 Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Private: No Submitted By: Roman Haefeli (reduzent) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: [declare]: '-stdpath' doesn't work on OS X Initial Comment: at least it doesn't work the same as on windows and linux. to add a path from extra directory, on windows and linux it works like this: [declare -stdpath ../extra/<somedir>] however, on OS X this doesn't work. although i asked the list several times, it seems that noone has ever managed to add a path using '-stdpath' on OS X. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478070&aid=1828573&group_…

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[ pure-data-Bugs-1828568 ] [declare]: helpfile is missing
by SourceForge.net 08 Nov '07

08 Nov '07

Bugs item #1828568, was opened at 2007-11-08 20:56 Message generated for change (Tracker Item Submitted) made by Item Submitter You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478070&aid=1828568&group_… Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: puredata Group: v0.40.2 Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Private: No Submitted By: Roman Haefeli (reduzent) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: [declare]: helpfile is missing Initial Comment: the helpfile of [declare] is missing ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478070&aid=1828568&group_…

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# converted to $
by Hans-Christoph Steiner 08 Nov '07

08 Nov '07

It seems that somewhere in Pd # chars are being converted to $ chars. I imagine this is support Max users who are used to #1 vars. But I don't know of any use of # in Pd and I would like to be able to use webcolors as symbols (i.e. #ffbb00). Is there any reason not to get rid of this conversion? .hc ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---- Looking at things from a more basic level, you can come up with a more direct solution... It may sound small in theory, but it in practice, it can change entire economies. - Amy Smith

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build pd-extended-0.39-3 with mingw
by Patrice Colet 08 Nov '07

08 Nov '07

Hello, these errors appear during externals build: C:/msys/1.0/home/pat/externals/hcs/classpath.o(.text+0xb6):C:/msys/1.0/home/p at/externals/hcs/classpath.c:90: undefined reference to `sys_searchpath' ......... C:/msys/1.0/home/pat/externals/hcs/import.o(.text+0x21b):C:/msys/1.0/home/pat/externals/hcs/import.c:59: undefined reference to `sys_load_lib and this is an error appearing during make clean: make[1]: Entering directory `/home/pat/externals/moocow/extended' make[1]: *** No rule to make target `flite.distclean', needed by `distclean'. Stop.

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Connecting up an SQL Database to PD
by Mike McGonagle 07 Nov '07

07 Nov '07

Hello all, It has been several months since I first inquired about this idea, and it seems there are some out there who think this would be a good idea. So, in the interest of figuring out just how this could work with PD, I would like to start a discussion about what sort of interface objects should be created. 1.0 What the objects would look like. My first thought is to design them so they operate like other already existing PD objects. While there may not be a perfect match with other objects, I am thinking more along the lines of what commands they recognize and their basic functionality. While I don't have a specific idea for how to implement these connecting objects, I think that there would be three (or more) different PD objects instantiated to work with a database. One object to handle the connectivity, one object to handle the querying, and a third to handle any results coming from a query. A. While there could be multiple connectivity objects, each one would point to a different database. This could be used to construct several data paths, and each connectivity object would be passed a symbol to use as a name for its data path. This name would then also have to be passed onto each query and results object to link them to a particular data path. (Does this need more explaination?) B. There could be more than one query object, each one handling a different query type (as PD doesn't really support strings, it might be difficult to build a whole SQL statement using commands via an inlet). C. There could also be multiple result object, each "listening" for a different parameter set. 2.0 Data Types, SQL, and PD So far, the biggest hurdle that I see with this is Data Types. As PD doesn't have much support for strings, there would either have to be special handling involved, or we just agree that a string in this context would be a PD symbol. Also, all the other datatypes (with the possible exception of a BLOB) would not really have a PD equivelent. But then again, how might binary data be stored to a BLOB from within PD? 3.0 Linking data into PD Another idea for connecting the data from the database into a PD patch, would be to map each of the fields in the database table to a particular PD variable. While this might allow for increased interaction, it would eliminate the use of any symbols returned from the database. 4.0 Version 0.0 As this is still in this design stage, there are some things that I would like to put off dealing with until there is a working set of PD objects. A. Currently works with one database. As there are so many different types of databases out there, and most of them require additional components to setup and configure, I would like to keep this as simple as possible. Currently my idea is to use ONLY SQLite, as a backend. This would be compiled directly into the PD external, as the SQLite code implements a full SQL database in a single source file, it is pretty easy to link this up directly without any other programs to install. B. All databases need to be designed externally. This means that no CREATE TABLE functions or other commands that would manipulate the database schema. This might be a problem is you need to create tables on the fly, but I would think that we could get a good start on the PD interface, and then take this idea up later. *************** So, if any of you have any ideas on this topic, please feel free to jump in and add your $0.02. It would be very much appreciated. Thanks, Mike

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print out everything that goes to sys_vgui()
by Hans-Christoph Steiner 07 Nov '07

07 Nov '07

Anyone know a quick hack to print everything that is sent to sys_vgui to stderr? It would be very helpful when debugging GUI objects. :D .hc ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---- Computer science is no more related to the computer than astronomy is related to the telescope. -Edsger Dykstra

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[ pure-data-Bugs-1827364 ] Colorpicker crashes Pd-Extended (10.5)
by SourceForge.net 07 Nov '07

07 Nov '07

Bugs item #1827364, was opened at 2007-11-07 00:40 Message generated for change (Tracker Item Submitted) made by Item Submitter You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478070&aid=1827364&group_… Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: pd-extended Group: None Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Private: No Submitted By: Luke Iannini (lukeiannini) Assigned to: Hans-Christoph Steiner (eighthave) Summary: Colorpicker crashes Pd-Extended (10.5) Initial Comment: Either clicking the colorpicker in an IEM property panel or banging HCS's color picker external crashes Pd with the latest 0.40 autobuild on 10.5. This is on Intel, haven't tried PPC. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478070&aid=1827364&group_…

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[ pure-data-Bugs-1377089 ] update of 0.INTRO.txt
by SourceForge.net 06 Nov '07

06 Nov '07

Bugs item #1377089, was opened at 2005-12-09 07:23 Message generated for change (Settings changed) made by eighthave You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478070&aid=1377089&group_… Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: puredata Group: None >Status: Closed >Resolution: Invalid Priority: 5 Private: No Submitted By: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: update of 0.INTRO.txt Initial Comment: in version 0.39-x the object reference file isn't yet updated. I only noticed when looked for reference for the "list" objects. Joao ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: stffn (stffn) Date: 2007-11-06 05:11 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1658640 Originator: NO The 0.INTRO.txt file doesn't exist in resent (>0.39-x) versions of Pd. Instead there is doc/5.reference/help-intro.pd file that replace it. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478070&aid=1377089&group_…

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