Pd-dev May 2005

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including RRADical in the Pd.app
by Hans-Christoph Steiner 23 May '05

23 May '05

So the Pd.app build system is pretty dialed in, so I would like to add RRADical to that so it "just works" when using the Pd.app. I added it to the two Pd.app builds I just released in extra/rradical. So is it just a matter of setting the path to get it working? Would it be better to install it directly into extra so the patch doesn't need to be set? .hc ________________________________________________________________________ ____ "If nature has made any one thing less susceptible than all others of exclusive property, it is the action of the thinking power called an idea, which an individual may exclusively possess as long as he keeps it to himself; but the moment it is divulged, it forces itself into the possession of everyone, and the receiver cannot dispossess himself of it." - Thomas Jefferson

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0.39-test2 feedback
by Tim Blechmann 22 May '05

22 May '05

hi miller, hi devs ... i just tested the HEAD branch in cvs concerning low latencies ... the is a BIG problem with the arrays and low latency (not sure, if it's the gui communication or something data structure related). moving with the mouse on the displayed array results in audible glitches ... using devel_0_38 and jack in rt mode, i can use a period size of 64 samples on my hdsp without any glitches. using HEAD and jack in rt, i have to set the period size to 4096 (the hardware maximum, resulting in 171ms latency!!!). i think, there is some room for improvements :) cheers ... tim -- mailto:TimBlechmann@gmx.de ICQ: 96771783 http://www.mokabar.tk latest mp3: kMW.mp3 http://mattin.org/mp3.html latest cd: Goh Lee Kwang & Tim Blechmann: Drone http://www.geocities.com/gohleekwangtimblechmannduo/ After one look at this planet any visitor from outer space would say "I want to see the manager." William S. Burroughs

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[ pure-data-Patches-1204294 ] Jack/TclTk/pdtcl build fixes on Mac OS X
by SourceForge.net 22 May '05

22 May '05

Patches item #1204294, was opened at 2005-05-18 09:51 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by eighthave You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478072&aid=1204294&group_… Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: puredata Group: bugfix Status: Open Resolution: None >Priority: 7 Submitted By: Hans-Christoph Steiner (eighthave) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) >Summary: Jack/TclTk/pdtcl build fixes on Mac OS X Initial Comment: This patch allows the Pd.app to be built with Jack support on Mac OS X and it looks for the TclTk Frameworks first in the standalone Wish Shell.app then in the standard location (/Library/Frameworks). ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >Comment By: Hans-Christoph Steiner (eighthave) Date: 2005-05-22 01:53 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=27104 - allows the Pd.app to be built with Jack support on Mac OS X. - fixed linking problem that caused bunk builds with Tcl/Tk newer than 8.4.4 - configure now looks for the Tcl and Tk frameworks - pdtcl renamed to libPdTcl.dylib according to Mac OS X standard ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478072&aid=1204294&group_…

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stopping CVS from "bashing ident lines" in portaudio sources
by Hans-Christoph Steiner 20 May '05

20 May '05

I was just reading the pd/src/CHANGELOG.txt and saw this: "I'm now uploading directly to CVS repository ("main" and "stable_0_38" branches.) There are still problems keeping CVS's and my versions of portaudio the same (CVS bashes the "ident" lines)." I am assuming this is about these lines: * $Id: pa_asio.h,v 1.8 2005/05/18 04:28:33 millerpuckette Exp $ You can prevent cvs from modifying these lines by adding "-kb", that turns off keyword replacement (CVS keywords are $Id$, $Revision$, etc.). I propose to add this to the CVSROOT/cvswrappers so that is happens automatically. I think this should do it, but I am not positive about how the directory pattern will be matched: portaudio/* -k 'b' portaudio_osx/* -k 'b' portaudio_v18/* -k 'b' At worst, it would just prevent keyword expansion somewhere where its desired (AFAIK). .hc ________________________________________________________________________ ____ "[W]e have invented the technology to eliminate scarcity, but we are deliberately throwing it away to benefit those who profit from scarcity." -John Gilmore

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Re: R: [PD] New external on neural networks
by IOhannes m zmoelnig 20 May '05

20 May '05

Davide Morelli wrote: > > Btw: how does one get access to CVS as a developer? > ask me ;-) davide: you need an account on sourceforge. send me your account-name, so i can add you as soon as no-one objects. pd-dev: anyone of the pd-devs has objections if i add davide morelli to the developers ? mfg.ads.r IOhannes

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no MIDI with HDSP
by Iain Mott 20 May '05

20 May '05

hi there - having trouble getting midi to work with a multiface/cardbus combination on gentoo linux midi works with 0.37.4 but not with 0.38.4 devel. have configured 0.38.4 devel with --enable-newhash --enable-jack --enable-optimize=pentium4 --enable-threadedsf --enable-atomic --enable-debug Have seen a few references to snd-virmidi but had trouble loading the module for some reason. Is it necessary to use virmidi? Another question: is there a way of restoring mixer levels without running hdspmixer? cheers, iain -- Iain Mott www.reverberant.com

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Re: tcl/tk drag n'drop's?
by ix＠replic.net 19 May '05

19 May '05

> ..looking into working on the osx port's of BLT, > TkZinc, etc. in order to play with all of the extensions :-) yeah went a bit crazy with the extensions, basically i just wanted to try them out and learna little Tk.. in the end ive scaled back to tkpath (which looks to become integrated some day) and BLT, for the graphical OSC Sequencer: http://whats-your.name/pd/sux.png . after i finish up this widget which should double as a piano roll or 'sequence arranger', im pretty much done for now, unless you know of anyone who is willing to fund such coding (since there isnt a graphical OSC sequencer on the planet right now, surely someone must be interested, but i dont know who..and don't live in Barcelone, Graz, or Montreal..:) heres my thoughts on the tk stuff.. i gave up on TkZinc, since it keept crashing Xorg (lethal combi of XRender, XFT, and TkZinc's OpenGL output..) they at least acknowledged on their list that it is currently fubar.. BLT is cool, but id try 2.4 rather than the CVS (v3.0 which was giving weird errors) > > ...a quick question: why do you use Tkdnd for drag and drop instead > of the drag and drop capability in BLT? TkDnd works outside Tk, ie explorer.exe, konqueror, kate.. but theres no OSX version afaik, and to even make it run in X the author had to mail me a patch to the Tk core..so, yeah.. i think intra-tk DND should need no extensions, just binding <Leave> and <Enter> to various clipboard-esque operations.. > Same question applies to the > tkTreectrl and blt's treeview...admittedly these are probably naive hm, tktree looked prettier? i think a nicer tree could/should be done canvas-only, perhaps something like this: http://www.edwardtufte.com/bboard/images/0001OF-1054.jpg ..existing tree-gui stuff is too wonky and derivative of the win3.1/95 file browser -ie scroll a lot & expand/collapse junk all the time.. > questions, but only because I have no familiarity with the extensions > from actual usage... yeah, i think less is more, with Tk now drawing to a Cairo backend (and with forthcoming openGL accel for that) the future for stock Tk would seem bright (and shiny).. now how about some good/cheap multi-point touchscreens.. > > thnx, > jamie

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[ pure-data-Patches-1204294 ] Jack/TclTk build fixes on Mac OS X
by SourceForge.net 18 May '05

18 May '05

Patches item #1204294, was opened at 2005-05-18 09:51 Message generated for change (Tracker Item Submitted) made by Item Submitter You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478072&aid=1204294&group_… Category: puredata Group: bugfix Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Submitted By: Hans-Christoph Steiner (eighthave) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: Jack/TclTk build fixes on Mac OS X Initial Comment: This patch allows the Pd.app to be built with Jack support on Mac OS X and it looks for the TclTk Frameworks first in the standalone Wish Shell.app then in the standard location (/Library/Frameworks). ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478072&aid=1204294&group_…

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[ pure-data-Patches-1062577 ] check for too long GUI string
by SourceForge.net 18 May '05

18 May '05

Patches item #1062577, was opened at 2004-11-08 18:53 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by zmoelnig You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478072&aid=1062577&group_… Category: puredata Group: None >Status: Closed >Resolution: Accepted Priority: 5 Submitted By: Thomas Grill (xovo) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: check for too long GUI string Initial Comment: currently PD doesn't notice when the GUI code passed to the ring buffer is too long. Patch will post an error message to the console - further action could be taken. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >Comment By: IOhannes m zmÃ¶lnig (zmoelnig) Date: 2005-05-18 11:28 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=564396 accepted by millerpuckette ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Miller Puckette (millerpuckette) Date: 2005-05-18 06:43 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=313747 Took it (0.39test2) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478072&aid=1062577&group_…

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[ pure-data-Patches-1062642 ] unlock sys_lock while send_dac is blocking
by SourceForge.net 18 May '05

18 May '05

Patches item #1062642, was opened at 2004-11-08 21:22 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by zmoelnig You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478072&aid=1062642&group_… Category: puredata Group: Unstable (example) >Status: Closed >Resolution: Accepted Priority: 5 Submitted By: Thomas Grill (xovo) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: unlock sys_lock while send_dac is blocking Initial Comment: Drivers could sleep while send_dac is running (and return SENDDACS_SLEPT)... make this time available for background processing. Can there be done any harm with PD messaging while send_dac ? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >Comment By: IOhannes m zmÃ¶lnig (zmoelnig) Date: 2005-05-18 11:27 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=564396 accepted by millerpuckette ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Miller Puckette (millerpuckette) Date: 2005-05-18 06:42 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=313747 Took it (0.39test2) -- I'm just hoping locking mutexes is real real cheap when nobody is really using this feature. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478072&aid=1062642&group_…

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