Hello all,
I've seen the same gemwin help patch for many years, and i think it needed an update so i've worked on the version attached. My main concerns when designing it were: - fit to the gem help patch template - remove automatically sended parameters, as for example lighting 1. That was very confusing for beginners: they create the gemwin object, open the help patch, close it and then they can see nothing in their window cause they have no light but lighting activated. - explicit if the message must be send before or after the creation of the gemwin. - use only one gemwin object - limit the number of hidden geos I submit it to the community for critics, what is missing, what should be changed, updated? I have not change much of the text, maybe it needs also some editing. I have drawn a moving object cause i think it can be useful for FSAA demo or frame rate. Many of the design was in discussion with cyrille. I hope that will be useful,
Nicolas
Hello Nico,
In the fullscreen subpatch, use [gemkeyname] instead [keyname] (or use both). Maybe, add a [create, 1( and [0, destroy( in the more viewing, more lighting and more window properties subpatch. Save the patch with all subpatch windows closed (here the FSAA subpatch open itself with the patch). ++
Jack
Le dimanche 19 juin 2011 à 17:05 +0200, Nicolas Montgermont a écrit :
Hello all,
I've seen the same gemwin help patch for many years, and i think it needed an update so i've worked on the version attached. My main concerns when designing it were:
- fit to the gem help patch template
- remove automatically sended parameters, as for example lighting 1.
That was very confusing for beginners: they create the gemwin object, open the help patch, close it and then they can see nothing in their window cause they have no light but lighting activated.
- explicit if the message must be send before or after the creation of
the gemwin.
- use only one gemwin object
- limit the number of hidden geos
I submit it to the community for critics, what is missing, what should be changed, updated? I have not change much of the text, maybe it needs also some editing. I have drawn a moving object cause i think it can be useful for FSAA demo or frame rate. Many of the design was in discussion with cyrille. I hope that will be useful,
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thx for your comments:
Le 19/06/11 17:51, Jack a écrit :
In the fullscreen subpatch, use [gemkeyname] instead [keyname] (or use both).
i have added it but escape doesn't work here (osx 10.6)
Maybe, add a [create, 1( and [0, destroy( in the more viewing, more lighting and more window properties subpatch.
added in the more window properties subpatch
Save the patch with all subpatch windows closed (here the FSAA subpatch open itself with the patch). ++
Jack
right, corrected version attached, n
hello,
even if this help patch can certainly be improved, it is lot's better than the curent help patch.
so if there is no objection in a few days, i'll commit it to the svn.
thanks for your work Cyrille
Le 19/06/2011 18:42, Nicolas Montgermont a écrit :
thx for your comments:
Le 19/06/11 17:51, Jack a écrit :
In the fullscreen subpatch, use [gemkeyname] instead [keyname] (or use both).
i have added it but escape doesn't work here (osx 10.6)
Maybe, add a [create, 1( and [0, destroy( in the more viewing, more lighting and more window properties subpatch.
added in the more window properties subpatch
Save the patch with all subpatch windows closed (here the FSAA subpatch open itself with the patch). ++
Jack
right, corrected version attached, n
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This is great, a definite improvement!
.hc
On Jun 19, 2011, at 5:54 PM, cyrille henry wrote:
hello,
even if this help patch can certainly be improved, it is lot's better than the curent help patch.
so if there is no objection in a few days, i'll commit it to the svn.
thanks for your work Cyrille
Le 19/06/2011 18:42, Nicolas Montgermont a écrit :
thx for your comments:
Le 19/06/11 17:51, Jack a écrit :
In the fullscreen subpatch, use [gemkeyname] instead [keyname] (or use both).
i have added it but escape doesn't work here (osx 10.6)
Maybe, add a [create, 1( and [0, destroy( in the more viewing, more lighting and more window properties subpatch.
added in the more window properties subpatch
Save the patch with all subpatch windows closed (here the FSAA subpatch open itself with the patch). ++
Jack
right, corrected version attached, n
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Hi...
The "buffer 1" example is not working with that [pd draw_geos]. That's normal because [gemhead ] should be banged. I don't know how to explain it clearly in the help file but I think it should be done. Maybe just with a comment in the [pd buffering] :
" In "buffer 1" mode, each [gemhead ] have to be banged to make a render "
... but in a understandable english. :-p
Thanks a lot, Nicolas, for this new gemwin-help.pd
01ivier
2011/6/20 Hans-Christoph Steiner hans@at.or.at
This is great, a definite improvement!
.hc
On Jun 19, 2011, at 5:54 PM, cyrille henry wrote:
hello,
even if this help patch can certainly be improved, it is lot's better than the curent help patch.
so if there is no objection in a few days, i'll commit it to the svn.
thanks for your work Cyrille
Le 19/06/2011 18:42, Nicolas Montgermont a écrit :
thx for your comments:
Le 19/06/11 17:51, Jack a écrit :
In the fullscreen subpatch, use [gemkeyname] instead [keyname] (or use both).
i have added it but escape doesn't work here (osx 10.6)
Maybe, add a [create, 1( and [0, destroy( in the more viewing, more lighting and more window properties subpatch.
added in the more window properties subpatch
Save the patch with all subpatch windows closed (here the FSAA subpatch open itself with the patch). ++
Jack
right, corrected version attached, n
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maybe there could be a reference to [ortho] in the viewing subpatch. 2ct.
Am 19.06.2011 um 18:42 schrieb Nicolas Montgermont:
thx for your comments:
Le 19/06/11 17:51, Jack a écrit :
In the fullscreen subpatch, use [gemkeyname] instead [keyname] (or use both).
i have added it but escape doesn't work here (osx 10.6)
Maybe, add a [create, 1( and [0, destroy( in the more viewing, more lighting and more window properties subpatch.
added in the more window properties subpatch
Save the patch with all subpatch windows closed (here the FSAA subpatch open itself with the patch). ++
Jack
right, corrected version attached, n -- http://nim.on.free.fr <gemwin-help.pd>_______________________________________________ GEM-dev mailing list GEM-dev@iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/gem-dev
ok,
i added that and corrected the [buffer 1( problem pointed by olivier. It still lack the class definition under the title... corrected version attached n
Le 20/06/11 19:04, Max a écrit :
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maybe there could be a reference to [ortho] in the viewing subpatch. 2ct.
Am 19.06.2011 um 18:42 schrieb Nicolas Montgermont:
nice update, thks a few suggestions :
in the exemple section basic create, +"turn on renderering" +"turn off rendering", destroy window
in [pd more window properties] + [border $1< border 0/1 create a window with/out borders + [create remotehost:8.0< when using X-windows, you can also create a window on a remote display ! (I never tried this)
in [pd fullscreen] to obtain a full screen on all plateforms, you may prefer to create a window without border, with prior dimen and offset settings [border 0, dimen 1024 768, offset 0 0, create, 1< in clone mode (adapt to the size of your screen), you need to create a shortcut to close the window as, without border, the window stay on top, "ESC" key for this patch [border 0, dimen 1024 768, offset 1024 0, create, 1< in extended desktop mode (adapt to the size of your screens) see [pd offset] subpatch for more details ?or pd offset content mixed in [pd fullscreen] > [pd fullscreen offset] ?
approx english ...
++benjamin
Nicolas Montgermont a écrit :
ok,
i added that and corrected the [buffer 1( problem pointed by olivier. It still lack the class definition under the title... corrected version attached n
Le 20/06/11 19:04, Max a écrit :
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maybe there could be a reference to [ortho] in the viewing subpatch. 2ct.
Am 19.06.2011 um 18:42 schrieb Nicolas Montgermont:
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