hello there
sorry to jump aboard the pd-dev list as a newbie, but i just wanted to relate some problems i had downloading and compiling pd-osc for OSX, and how i ended up troubleshooting them -- with the hope of either getting feedback on what i *really* should have done, or so that the maintainer of pd-osc may update the docs so that it'll be easier for folks like me to get it going later on. here's what happened:
... i noticed the new disclaimer on the pure-data site regarding the new status of pd-osc, that now it's not actively distrbuted by the pd site... i've seen two versions of the pd-osc external, the newest version at http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/pure-data/externals/OSCx/ (which is where i'm directed to go from the pd site), and an older version at the pd sourceforge site.
query # 1: when i got to the site with the newer version, i couldn't figure out for the life of me how to download the entire contents of the OSCx directory all at once. i had to download each file one at a time. for future reference, is there a way to do this quickly and with one command that i don't know about?
as for the older version on sourceforge, i was able to easily download the whole thing happily in one shot, but jeez, i really wanted the newest one, not the 2002 version...
... here are some things that i had to mangle with as an OSX user trying to compile this stuff - these are the points where i'd either like some advice on what i should've done instead, or if i did what i was supposed to, then maybe the docs could be updated or modified for future users... i couldn't find the email addy of the maintainer of pd-osc in any of the docs, so that's why i'm sending this message here to the dev list... i imagine he's a lurker...
... first off, i had to change the permissions of the configure file so that it could be executed, otherwise 'permission denied'. chmod u+x configure i imagine this executable bit was just lost in the download process...
... next, i had to make sure to change my pd folder from 'pd-0.37-2' to just plain 'pd' or else the scripts in the configure file wouldn't know where to look for or put pd-related stuff...
... at the website (http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/pure-data/externals/OSCx/ ), i didn't download the file 'install.sh' because it was blank, or 'configure.h.in' because my browser kept telling me the file didn't exist (it also showed up blank when i viewed it). dummy files. after some mangling with ./configure, i finally downloaded the blank 'install.sh' and created a blank doc called 'configure.h.in' and ./configure was finally happy...
.. then, i was able to make it through './configure' and 'make' alright, but then when i got to 'make install' (as the superuser of course), i came across this error: install -m644 *.pd_linux /usr/lib/pd/extra install: *.pd_linux: No such file or directory make[1]: *** [install] Error 71 make: *** [install] Error 2
after some additional mangling, i went into OSCx/src/makefile and changed the line
install -m644 *.pd_linux $(prefix)/lib/pd/extra #i assume an artifact from the linux-users compilation to install -m644 *.pd_darwin $(prefix)/lib/pd/extra
and everything i think compiled alright...
... okay, so then after everything had finally compiled fine, after some investigation i discover that all of the wonderful new docs and externals have been thrown into an invisible folder (at least invisible to OSX's finder) that i really don't want to ever use (maybe someone can convince a good reason why i should): /usr/lib/pd/extra and /usr/lib/pd/doc to overrule this, i then type a final command:
cp -R /usr/lib/pd/extra /Applications/Apps.Audio/pd/ cp -R /usr/lib/pd/doc /Applications/Apps.Audio/pd/
which adds the needed externals and docs into their pleasant places...
...
alrighty. so, basically, if someone has the time, please enlighten me to whether there could've been a way quicker and easier way for me to do all of this... and if not (and even if so, perhaps), it'd be super if the readme docs for pd-osc (and possibly even some of the installation docs) could be amended and updated to reflect these possible mods.
awesome. thanks so much for your help. adam
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Hallo, adam overton hat gesagt: // adam overton wrote:
i noticed the new disclaimer on the pure-data site regarding the new status of pd-osc, that now it's not actively distrbuted by the pd site... i've seen two versions of the pd-osc external, the newest version at http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/pure-data/externals/OSCx/ (which is where i'm directed to go from the pd site), and an older version at the pd sourceforge site.
query # 1: when i got to the site with the newer version, i couldn't figure out for the life of me how to download the entire contents of the OSCx directory all at once. i had to download each file one at a time. for future reference, is there a way to do this quickly and with one command that i don't know about?
as for the older version on sourceforge, i was able to easily download the whole thing happily in one shot, but jeez, i really wanted the newest one, not the 2002 version...
You want the newest one. The old one has some bugs that are fixed on CVS.
To download them all in one go you need to use cvs. It might already be included on an OS-X machine in command line form, don't know, I use Linux. Try to open a terminal and type "cvs" <Enter> in it. If you don't get command not found but a useage description, you have cvs installed.
You probably can use the instructions on pure-data.sf.net for checking out the cvs repository.
alrighty. so, basically, if someone has the time, please enlighten me to whether there could've been a way quicker and easier way for me to do all of this...
I'm quite sure, that Hans-Christoph found some better way in the installer packages for OS-X...
Ciao
On Aug 16, 2004, at 1:05 PM, Frank Barknecht wrote:
Hallo, adam overton hat gesagt: // adam overton wrote:
i noticed the new disclaimer on the pure-data site regarding the new status of pd-osc, that now it's not actively distrbuted by the pd site... i've seen two versions of the pd-osc external, the newest version at http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/pure-data/externals/OSCx/ (which is where i'm directed to go from the pd site), and an older version at the pd sourceforge site.
query # 1: when i got to the site with the newer version, i couldn't figure out for the life of me how to download the entire contents of the OSCx directory all at once. i had to download each file one at a time. for future reference, is there a way to do this quickly and with one command that i don't know about?
as for the older version on sourceforge, i was able to easily download the whole thing happily in one shot, but jeez, i really wanted the newest one, not the 2002 version...
You want the newest one. The old one has some bugs that are fixed on CVS.
To download them all in one go you need to use cvs. It might already be included on an OS-X machine in command line form, don't know, I use Linux. Try to open a terminal and type "cvs" <Enter> in it. If you don't get command not found but a useage description, you have cvs installed.
You probably can use the instructions on pure-data.sf.net for checking out the cvs repository.
alrighty. so, basically, if someone has the time, please enlighten me to whether there could've been a way quicker and easier way for me to do all of this...
I'm quite sure, that Hans-Christoph found some better way in the installer packages for OS-X...
OSC is already included in the test release of Pd.app. I plan on including OSC in the Windows installers as well.
.hc
great hans. i'm looking forward to grabbing your package off your site. thanks for the heads up... adam
I'm quite sure, that Hans-Christoph found some better way in the installer packages for OS-X...
OSC is already included in the test release of Pd.app. I plan on including OSC in the Windows installers as well.
.hc
http://at.or.at/hans/
adam overton wrote:
hello there
... next, i had to make sure to change my pd folder from 'pd-0.37-2' to just plain 'pd' or else the scripts in the configure file wouldn't know where to look for or put pd-related stuff...
"./configure --help" gives me (on linux, but this should be no issue) among other things: "--with-pd-dir=path pd header path (default=/usr/local/include)"
install: *.pd_linux: No such file or directory
clearly a bug.
externals have been thrown into an invisible folder (at least invisible to OSX's finder) that i really don't want to ever use (maybe someone can convince a good reason why i should): /usr/lib/pd/extra and /usr/lib/pd/doc
because osX is not only post-os9 but also a unix system. and on unix, things should go into /usr/lib, or rather /usr/local/lib if you install it by hand.
but of course it would be cool to offer a configure-option to the user "who knows better" for the installation path.
mfg.asdr.ki IOhannes
hey there IOhannes,
On Aug 17, 2004, at 1:48 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:
adam overton wrote:
hello there
... next, i had to make sure to change my pd folder from 'pd-0.37-2' to just plain 'pd' or else the scripts in the configure file wouldn't know where to look for or put pd-related stuff...
"./configure --help" gives me (on linux, but this should be no issue) among other things: "--with-pd-dir=path pd header path (default=/usr/local/include)"
thanks - that is very helpful to know...
install: *.pd_linux: No such file or directory
clearly a bug.
externals have been thrown into an invisible folder (at least invisible to OSX's finder) that i really don't want to ever use (maybe someone can convince a good reason why i should): /usr/lib/pd/extra and /usr/lib/pd/doc
because osX is not only post-os9 but also a unix system. and on unix, things should go into /usr/lib, or rather /usr/local/lib if you install it by hand.
but of course it would be cool to offer a configure-option to the user "who knows better" for the installation path.
mfg.asdr.ki IOhannes
thanks for the tips... adam
hu
fyi, for OSCx i fixed that install bug and added the prefix option in the makefile.
also i changed the stale cnmat licences to the more recent ones so it might be included again in larger packages ..
bst, opt
[adam overton]->[[PD-dev] pd-osc on OSX]->[04-08-16 09:17]
|hello there | |sorry to jump aboard the pd-dev list as a newbie, but i just wanted to |relate some problems i had downloading and compiling pd-osc for OSX, |and how i ended up troubleshooting them -- with the hope of either |getting feedback on what i *really* should have done, or so that the |maintainer of pd-osc may update the docs so that it'll be easier for |folks like me to get it going later on. here's what happened: | |... |i noticed the new disclaimer on the pure-data site regarding the new |status of pd-osc, that now it's not actively distrbuted by the pd |site... |i've seen two versions of the pd-osc external, the newest version at |http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/pure-data/externals/OSCx/ (which |is where i'm directed to go from the pd site), and an older version at |the pd sourceforge site. | |query # 1: |when i got to the site with the newer version, i couldn't figure out |for the life of me how to download the entire contents of the OSCx |directory all at once. i had to download each file one at a time. for |future reference, is there a way to do this quickly and with one |command that i don't know about? | |as for the older version on sourceforge, i was able to easily download |the whole thing happily in one shot, but jeez, i really wanted the |newest one, not the 2002 version... | |... |here are some things that i had to mangle with as an OSX user trying to |compile this stuff - these are the points where i'd either like some |advice on what i should've done instead, or if i did what i was |supposed to, then maybe the docs could be updated or modified for |future users... i couldn't find the email addy of the maintainer of |pd-osc in any of the docs, so that's why i'm sending this message here |to the dev list... i imagine he's a lurker... | |... |first off, i had to change the permissions of the configure file so |that it could be executed, otherwise 'permission denied'. |chmod u+x configure |i imagine this executable bit was just lost in the download process... | |... |next, i had to make sure to change my pd folder from 'pd-0.37-2' to |just plain 'pd' or else the scripts in the configure file wouldn't know |where to look for or put pd-related stuff... | |... |at the website |(http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/pure-data/externals/OSCx/ ), i |didn't download the file 'install.sh' because it was blank, or |'configure.h.in' because my browser kept telling me the file didn't |exist (it also showed up blank when i viewed it). dummy files. after |some mangling with ./configure, i finally downloaded the blank |'install.sh' and created a blank doc called 'configure.h.in' and |./configure was finally happy... | |.. |then, i was able to make it through './configure' and 'make' alright, |but then when i got to 'make install' (as the superuser of course), i |came across this error: |install -m644 *.pd_linux /usr/lib/pd/extra |install: *.pd_linux: No such file or directory |make[1]: *** [install] Error 71 |make: *** [install] Error 2 | |after some additional mangling, i went into OSCx/src/makefile and |changed the line | |install -m644 *.pd_linux $(prefix)/lib/pd/extra #i assume an artifact |from the linux-users compilation |to |install -m644 *.pd_darwin $(prefix)/lib/pd/extra | |and everything i think compiled alright... | |... |okay, so then after everything had finally compiled fine, after some |investigation i discover that all of the wonderful new docs and |externals have been thrown into an invisible folder (at least invisible |to OSX's finder) that i really don't want to ever use (maybe someone |can convince a good reason why i should): /usr/lib/pd/extra and |/usr/lib/pd/doc |to overrule this, i then type a final command: | |cp -R /usr/lib/pd/extra /Applications/Apps.Audio/pd/ |cp -R /usr/lib/pd/doc /Applications/Apps.Audio/pd/ | |which adds the needed externals and docs into their pleasant places... | |... | |alrighty. so, basically, if someone has the time, please enlighten me |to whether there could've been a way quicker and easier way for me to |do all of this... and if not (and even if so, perhaps), it'd be super |if the readme docs for pd-osc (and possibly even some of the |installation docs) could be amended and updated to reflect these |possible mods. | |awesome. thanks so much for your help. |adam | | | |aoverton@calarts.edu |661.373.8679 cell ... 661.294.1885 hm |http://www.calarts.edu/~aoverton |... |check out inter/meta/trans, a new mailing list for live art and |performance |http://shoko.calarts.edu/mailman/listinfo/intermetatrans | | |_______________________________________________ |PD-dev mailing list |PD-dev@iem.at |http://iem.at/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pd-dev |
awesome. thanks!! adam
On Aug 20, 2004, at 3:51 PM, d.lj wrote:
hu
fyi, for OSCx i fixed that install bug and added the prefix option in the makefile.
also i changed the stale cnmat licences to the more recent ones so it might be included again in larger packages ..
bst, opt
[adam overton]->[[PD-dev] pd-osc on OSX]->[04-08-16 09:17]
|hello there | |sorry to jump aboard the pd-dev list as a newbie, but i just wanted to |relate some problems i had downloading and compiling pd-osc for OSX, |and how i ended up troubleshooting them -- with the hope of either |getting feedback on what i *really* should have done, or so that the |maintainer of pd-osc may update the docs so that it'll be easier for |folks like me to get it going later on. here's what happened: | |... |i noticed the new disclaimer on the pure-data site regarding the new |status of pd-osc, that now it's not actively distrbuted by the pd |site... |i've seen two versions of the pd-osc external, the newest version at |http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/pure-data/externals/OSCx/ (which |is where i'm directed to go from the pd site), and an older version at |the pd sourceforge site. | |query # 1: |when i got to the site with the newer version, i couldn't figure out |for the life of me how to download the entire contents of the OSCx |directory all at once. i had to download each file one at a time. for |future reference, is there a way to do this quickly and with one |command that i don't know about? | |as for the older version on sourceforge, i was able to easily download |the whole thing happily in one shot, but jeez, i really wanted the |newest one, not the 2002 version... | |... |here are some things that i had to mangle with as an OSX user trying to |compile this stuff - these are the points where i'd either like some |advice on what i should've done instead, or if i did what i was |supposed to, then maybe the docs could be updated or modified for |future users... i couldn't find the email addy of the maintainer of |pd-osc in any of the docs, so that's why i'm sending this message here |to the dev list... i imagine he's a lurker... | |... |first off, i had to change the permissions of the configure file so |that it could be executed, otherwise 'permission denied'. |chmod u+x configure |i imagine this executable bit was just lost in the download process... | |... |next, i had to make sure to change my pd folder from 'pd-0.37-2' to |just plain 'pd' or else the scripts in the configure file wouldn't know |where to look for or put pd-related stuff... | |... |at the website |(http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/pure-data/externals/OSCx/ ), i |didn't download the file 'install.sh' because it was blank, or |'configure.h.in' because my browser kept telling me the file didn't |exist (it also showed up blank when i viewed it). dummy files. after |some mangling with ./configure, i finally downloaded the blank |'install.sh' and created a blank doc called 'configure.h.in' and |./configure was finally happy... | |.. |then, i was able to make it through './configure' and 'make' alright, |but then when i got to 'make install' (as the superuser of course), i |came across this error: |install -m644 *.pd_linux /usr/lib/pd/extra |install: *.pd_linux: No such file or directory |make[1]: *** [install] Error 71 |make: *** [install] Error 2 | |after some additional mangling, i went into OSCx/src/makefile and |changed the line | |install -m644 *.pd_linux $(prefix)/lib/pd/extra #i assume an artifact |from the linux-users compilation |to |install -m644 *.pd_darwin $(prefix)/lib/pd/extra | |and everything i think compiled alright... | |... |okay, so then after everything had finally compiled fine, after some |investigation i discover that all of the wonderful new docs and |externals have been thrown into an invisible folder (at least invisible |to OSX's finder) that i really don't want to ever use (maybe someone |can convince a good reason why i should): /usr/lib/pd/extra and |/usr/lib/pd/doc |to overrule this, i then type a final command: | |cp -R /usr/lib/pd/extra /Applications/Apps.Audio/pd/ |cp -R /usr/lib/pd/doc /Applications/Apps.Audio/pd/ | |which adds the needed externals and docs into their pleasant places... | |... | |alrighty. so, basically, if someone has the time, please enlighten me |to whether there could've been a way quicker and easier way for me to |do all of this... and if not (and even if so, perhaps), it'd be super |if the readme docs for pd-osc (and possibly even some of the |installation docs) could be amended and updated to reflect these |possible mods. | |awesome. thanks so much for your help. |adam | | | |aoverton@calarts.edu |661.373.8679 cell ... 661.294.1885 hm |http://www.calarts.edu/~aoverton |... |check out inter/meta/trans, a new mailing list for live art and |performance |http://shoko.calarts.edu/mailman/listinfo/intermetatrans | | |_______________________________________________ |PD-dev mailing list |PD-dev@iem.at |http://iem.at/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pd-dev |
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