I'm seeing the same on macOS 10.13.6. This is a crash in the GUI and seems to be something to do with the Tk version as running PD with the built-in version of Tk on my system works fine.
On Sep 12, 2018, at 12:20 AM, pd-dev-request@lists.iem.at wrote:
From: jakob skouborg <syntaxerror60@hotmail.com mailto:syntaxerror60@hotmail.com>
but I think I might have experienced a bug here on OSX 10.10.5(Yosemite):
- When I do a “save as” and I type in the name in the save dialog and then push “ Save as” button, PD crashed. I have not been able to save a patch yet.
Can anyone replicate?
Thanks and have a great evening ;)
Jakob(Jaffasplaffa)
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Yes, I'm running on the theory that it's my keyup patch that's doing this.
M
On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 01:26:12AM +0200, Dan Wilcox wrote:
I'm seeing the same on macOS 10.13.6. This is a crash in the GUI and seems to be something to do with the Tk version as running PD with the built-in version of Tk on my system works fine.
On Sep 12, 2018, at 12:20 AM, pd-dev-request@lists.iem.at wrote:
From: jakob skouborg <syntaxerror60@hotmail.com mailto:syntaxerror60@hotmail.com>
but I think I might have experienced a bug here on OSX 10.10.5(Yosemite):
- When I do a ???save as??? and I type in the name in the save dialog and then push ??? Save as??? button, PD crashed. I have not been able to save a patch yet.
Can anyone replicate?
Thanks and have a great evening ;)
Jakob(Jaffasplaffa)
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Think I found it - a careless edit on my part... in tk8.5.19/macosx/tkMacOSXKeyEvent.c the lines:
case NSKeyUp: if (finishedCompose) if (!releaseCode) return theEvent;
should be just:
case NSKeyUp: if (!releaseCode) return theEvent;
I'll update the source tarball and make a compiled one just so we're all on the same page. Deleting that one line has stopped the "save as" crashes for me, and might also have fixed the other current crasher.
cheers M
On Tue, Sep 11, 2018 at 06:14:45PM -0700, Miller Puckette wrote:
Yes, I'm running on the theory that it's my keyup patch that's doing this.
M
On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 01:26:12AM +0200, Dan Wilcox wrote:
I'm seeing the same on macOS 10.13.6. This is a crash in the GUI and seems to be something to do with the Tk version as running PD with the built-in version of Tk on my system works fine.
On Sep 12, 2018, at 12:20 AM, pd-dev-request@lists.iem.at wrote:
From: jakob skouborg <syntaxerror60@hotmail.com mailto:syntaxerror60@hotmail.com>
but I think I might have experienced a bug here on OSX 10.10.5(Yosemite):
- When I do a ???save as??? and I type in the name in the save dialog and then push ??? Save as??? button, PD crashed. I have not been able to save a patch yet.
Can anyone replicate?
Thanks and have a great evening ;)
Jakob(Jaffasplaffa)
Dan Wilcox @danomatika http://twitter.com/danomatika danomatika.com http://danomatika.com/ robotcowboy.com http://robotcowboy.com/
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OK, updated TK source:
http://msp.ucsd.edu/tmp/misc/tk8.5.19-pd49test2-src.tar.gz
M
On Tue, Sep 11, 2018 at 07:30:30PM -0700, Miller Puckette wrote:
Think I found it - a careless edit on my part... in tk8.5.19/macosx/tkMacOSXKeyEvent.c the lines:
case NSKeyUp: if (finishedCompose) if (!releaseCode)return theEvent;
should be just:
case NSKeyUp: if (!releaseCode) return theEvent;I'll update the source tarball and make a compiled one just so we're all on the same page. Deleting that one line has stopped the "save as" crashes for me, and might also have fixed the other current crasher.
cheers M
On Tue, Sep 11, 2018 at 06:14:45PM -0700, Miller Puckette wrote:
Yes, I'm running on the theory that it's my keyup patch that's doing this.
M
On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 01:26:12AM +0200, Dan Wilcox wrote:
I'm seeing the same on macOS 10.13.6. This is a crash in the GUI and seems to be something to do with the Tk version as running PD with the built-in version of Tk on my system works fine.
On Sep 12, 2018, at 12:20 AM, pd-dev-request@lists.iem.at wrote:
From: jakob skouborg <syntaxerror60@hotmail.com mailto:syntaxerror60@hotmail.com>
but I think I might have experienced a bug here on OSX 10.10.5(Yosemite):
- When I do a ???save as??? and I type in the name in the save dialog and then push ??? Save as??? button, PD crashed. I have not been able to save a patch yet.
Can anyone replicate?
Thanks and have a great evening ;)
Jakob(Jaffasplaffa)
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I've rolled this into the repo as a patch which is applied by the mac/tcltk-wish.sh script. This way, you'll get this when building 8.5.19 for macOS automatically. See commit details here: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/447/commits/923a6a249c36a42075f7... https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/447/commits/923a6a249c36a42075f7c7d5ab298473a273ec94
I think it's important that these kind of things don't get lost and that it's still possible for people to get the as close as possible to the same build as the releases, especially for testing.
On Sep 12, 2018, at 4:37 AM, Miller Puckette msp@ucsd.edu wrote:
OK, updated TK source:
http://msp.ucsd.edu/tmp/misc/tk8.5.19-pd49test2-src.tar.gz
M
On Tue, Sep 11, 2018 at 07:30:30PM -0700, Miller Puckette wrote:
Think I found it - a careless edit on my part... in tk8.5.19/macosx/tkMacOSXKeyEvent.c the lines:
case NSKeyUp: if (finishedCompose) if (!releaseCode) return theEvent;
should be just:
case NSKeyUp: if (!releaseCode) return theEvent;
I'll update the source tarball and make a compiled one just so we're all on the same page. Deleting that one line has stopped the "save as" crashes for me, and might also have fixed the other current crasher.
cheers M
On Tue, Sep 11, 2018 at 06:14:45PM -0700, Miller Puckette wrote:
Yes, I'm running on the theory that it's my keyup patch that's doing this.
M
On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 01:26:12AM +0200, Dan Wilcox wrote:
I'm seeing the same on macOS 10.13.6. This is a crash in the GUI and seems to be something to do with the Tk version as running PD with the built-in version of Tk on my system works fine.
On Sep 12, 2018, at 12:20 AM, pd-dev-request@lists.iem.at wrote:
From: jakob skouborg <syntaxerror60@hotmail.com mailto:syntaxerror60@hotmail.com>
but I think I might have experienced a bug here on OSX 10.10.5(Yosemite):
- When I do a ???save as??? and I type in the name in the save dialog and then push ??? Save as??? button, PD crashed. I have not been able to save a patch yet.
Can anyone replicate?
Thanks and have a great evening ;)
Jakob(Jaffasplaffa)
Dan Wilcox @danomatika http://twitter.com/danomatika danomatika.com http://danomatika.com/ robotcowboy.com http://robotcowboy.com/
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Hi!
I'm going to writing some ideas on intelligent patching, just to bring some discussion
1. It IS a dream come true! 2. Prior to pd 0.49 if you have some objects selected and then select a connection, the objects are automatically deselected. Now if you have objects selected and you click a connection the connection is added to the selection. In PD (and usually in general) when you want to add to a selection you need to hold shift. Maybe it's a good idea to have to shift+click a connection to add it to the selection. Right now i keep accidentally deleting objects because i'm used to the shift+select stuff in programs so i forget now a simple click in a connection will keep what was already selected. But nothing to worry about because now i can just ctrl+z my way back! :) 3. An enchancement idea for the fan out. Currently the fan out (when you select multiple destination objects and connect a single object to one of them) the connections are made according to the creation order of the objects (that becomes evident when you triggerize). Maybe PD could do it in right-to-left order. 4. While he have a fan-in from multiple-to-one i imagine a one-to-one fan in also being handy :) (example: connect all the outlets of a [route A B C D E F G] to a [list]'s inlet. ) 5. When using the "triggerize" the [t] objects appears with some offset to the left of the object being "triggerized". For what i've seen in the code the [t] object is created by reading obj->te_xpix; and obj->te_ypix; Maybe this is an issue with positions reported by the windows manager? I've measured and the [t] object is created 10 pixels to the left. The window border is just 7 pixels but Win7 does apply some shadows around the window that might account for that 3 pixels difference. But it's just an guess.
Cheers Henri.
On 9/12/18 8:11 PM, Henri Augusto Bisognini wrote:
- While he have a fan-in from multiple-to-one i imagine a one-to-one fan in also being handy :) (example: connect all the outlets of a [route A B C D E F G] to a [list]'s inlet. )
i think the biggest issue is how to get the interface right (that is: which combination of keystrokes would trigger that behaviour without seeming utterly random)
- When using the "triggerize" the [t] objects appears with some offset to the left of the object being "triggerized". For what i've seen in the code the [t] object is created by reading obj->te_xpix; and obj->te_ypix; Maybe this is an issue with positions reported by the windows manager? I've measured and the [t] object is created 10 pixels to the left. The window border is just 7 pixels but Win7 does apply some shadows around the window that might account for that 3 pixels difference. But it's just an guess.
no. the offset is intentional. it's to keep the trigger object easily visible and selectable in the case of closely y-spaced objects (e.g. as being created by autoconnect) being triggerized.
gsamdr IOhannes
On 9/12/18 8:11 PM, Henri Augusto Bisognini wrote:
- Prior to pd 0.49 if you have some objects selected and then select a connection, the objects are automatically deselected. Now if you have objects selected and you click a connection the connection is added to the selection. In PD (and usually in general) when you want to add to a selection you need to hold shift. Maybe it's a good idea to have to shift+click a connection to add it to the selection. Right now i keep accidentally deleting objects because i'm used to the shift+select stuff in programs so i forget now a simple click in a connection will keep what was already selected.
indeed this is a bit annoying. i've submitted a fix for this: <shift>-clicking adds (or removes) a line from the selection, just clicking will unselect any selected lines first.
gfmards IOhannes
I’m getting the Save As crash with test2 on 10.13.6 (still the latest mac).
It’s happened twice, but I can’t replicate it yet. Just now, I copied a small part of an existing patch into a new patch. File > Save, and it crashed, although it did actually save the new patch, and it seems to open fine. Tried recreating the exact same sequence of events again and it doesn’t crash. Tried using Save As… a bunch of times, and it doesn’t crash. But it will, it seems.
Kevin
On Sep 11, 2018, at 4:26 PM, Dan Wilcox danomatika@gmail.com wrote:
I'm seeing the same on macOS 10.13.6. This is a crash in the GUI and seems to be something to do with the Tk version as running PD with the built-in version of Tk on my system works fine.
On Sep 12, 2018, at 12:20 AM, pd-dev-request@lists.iem.at mailto:pd-dev-request@lists.iem.at wrote:
From: jakob skouborg <syntaxerror60@hotmail.com mailto:syntaxerror60@hotmail.com>
but I think I might have experienced a bug here on OSX 10.10.5(Yosemite):
- When I do a “save as” and I type in the name in the save dialog and then push “ Save as” button, PD crashed. I have not been able to save a patch yet.
Can anyone replicate?
Thanks and have a great evening ;)
Jakob(Jaffasplaffa)
Dan Wilcox @danomatika http://twitter.com/danomatika danomatika.com http://danomatika.com/ robotcowboy.com http://robotcowboy.com/
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Try this build: http://docs.danomatika.com/pdbuilds/Pd-0.49-0test0-keyfix2.zip http://docs.danomatika.com/pdbuilds/Pd-0.49-0test0-keyfix2.zip
On Sep 13, 2018, at 1:57 AM, Kevin Haywood khaywood@ucsd.edu wrote:
I’m getting the Save As crash with test2 on 10.13.6 (still the latest mac).
It’s happened twice, but I can’t replicate it yet. Just now, I copied a small part of an existing patch into a new patch. File > Save, and it crashed, although it did actually save the new patch, and it seems to open fine. Tried recreating the exact same sequence of events again and it doesn’t crash. Tried using Save As… a bunch of times, and it doesn’t crash. But it will, it seems.
Kevin
On Sep 11, 2018, at 4:26 PM, Dan Wilcox <danomatika@gmail.com mailto:danomatika@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm seeing the same on macOS 10.13.6. This is a crash in the GUI and seems to be something to do with the Tk version as running PD with the built-in version of Tk on my system works fine.
On Sep 12, 2018, at 12:20 AM, pd-dev-request@lists.iem.at mailto:pd-dev-request@lists.iem.at wrote:
From: jakob skouborg <syntaxerror60@hotmail.com mailto:syntaxerror60@hotmail.com>
but I think I might have experienced a bug here on OSX 10.10.5(Yosemite):
- When I do a “save as” and I type in the name in the save dialog and then push “ Save as” button, PD crashed. I have not been able to save a patch yet.
Can anyone replicate?
Thanks and have a great evening ;)
Jakob(Jaffasplaffa)
Dan Wilcox @danomatika http://twitter.com/danomatika danomatika.com http://danomatika.com/ robotcowboy.com http://robotcowboy.com/
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