Hi,
I will soon be completing my PD external(s) for the upcoming PDCon07. I would like to able to commit them to the PD repo once I am ready. For this, could you please add SF.net 'mokhov' to the project.
Thanks!
Serguei A. Mokhov wrote:
Hi,
hi serguei
I will soon be completing my PD external(s) for the upcoming PDCon07. I would like to able to commit them to the PD repo once I am ready. For this, could you please add SF.net 'mokhov' to the project.
as we (at least: i) do not know anything about you, it would be nice if you could introduce yourself, tell us what you are doing and why it would be especially important to have your external(s) in the cvs.
(this is just the standard procedure how we handle things here: once you have submitted all the "relevant" information and no one objects, an admin will add you to the devs; this process of "lazy consensus" usually takes some days)
mfg,asdr IOhannes
Hallo, IOhannes m zmoelnig hat gesagt: // IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:
as we (at least: i) do not know anything about you, it would be nice if you could introduce yourself, tell us what you are doing and why it would be especially important to have your external(s) in the cvs.
... and why it is crucial, that you do this yourself! We already have more than 40 developers, someone surely would volunteer to add some abstractions. (I'm slowly getting really worried about the developer count.)
Ciao
On Tue, 24 Jul 2007, Frank Barknecht wrote:
... and why it is crucial, that you do this yourself! We already have more than 40 developers, someone surely would volunteer to add some abstractions. (I'm slowly getting really worried about the developer count.)
We have 63 registered developers (61 if you don't count those known to be deceased). However in terms of practical security, even though common sense tells you that more people is more trouble, what matters is whether their account can be trusted to be them, that they can be trusted to not cause trouble, and which access control measures are put in place in order to prevent trouble.
If instead you have to deal with SF admins who might be telling you that the project has too many people, then that's a completely different matter. Just tell them that pd is being a « victim of its own success » - because that's the truth: if pd wasn't that successful you wouldn't have nearly as many people who have something to contribute.
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Hallo, Mathieu Bouchard hat gesagt: // Mathieu Bouchard wrote:
However in terms of practical security, even though common sense tells you that more people is more trouble, what matters is whether their account can be trusted to be them, that they can be trusted to not cause trouble, and which access control measures are put in place in order to prevent trouble.
As there are practically no access control measures in effect, that trust thing is what worries me. In the last month we had two pleas for being added as an SF developer by people. who neverever have posted a single mail to pd-list, at least not with the mail addresses they were using. Compare that to for example one of the latest new additions, Chris McCormick, who is active in the project and on the lists for years. I didn't have any problem with adding him.
To say it clearly: I wouldn't want to add people to SF, who are unknown, unless one of the "regulars" can vouch for them. If someone is just in need of a place to host externals or abstractions, there's always puredata.info.
Or course this is nothing personal against Serguei, whom I don't know anyway. But probably we'll meet in Montreal and drink a beer. ;)
Ciao
On Jul 24, 2007, at 3:35 PM, Frank Barknecht wrote:
Hallo, Mathieu Bouchard hat gesagt: // Mathieu Bouchard wrote:
However in terms of practical security, even though common sense tells you that more people is more trouble, what matters is whether their account can be trusted to be them, that they can be trusted to not cause trouble, and which access control measures are put in place in order to prevent trouble.
As there are practically no access control measures in effect, that trust thing is what worries me. In the last month we had two pleas for being added as an SF developer by people. who neverever have posted a single mail to pd-list, at least not with the mail addresses they were using. Compare that to for example one of the latest new additions, Chris McCormick, who is active in the project and on the lists for years. I didn't have any problem with adding him.
To say it clearly: I wouldn't want to add people to SF, who are unknown, unless one of the "regulars" can vouch for them. If someone is just in need of a place to host externals or abstractions, there's always puredata.info.
Or course this is nothing personal against Serguei, whom I don't know anyway. But probably we'll meet in Montreal and drink a beer. ;)
If people wanted to, we could purge non-active developers from the list, especially since it's quite easy to get added again. That would probably bring us below 40 (I must say it would feel sad and strange to remove Jamie and Gerard...).
I agree that we should expect a fair amount of activity before being added, whether in terms of code output, list posts, etc.
.hc
Ciao
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On Wed, 25 Jul 2007, Frank Barknecht wrote:
To say it clearly: I wouldn't want to add people to SF, who are unknown, unless one of the "regulars" can vouch for them.
I agree that it should stay like that.
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