Bugs item #3292451, was opened at 2011-04-24 18:22 Message generated for change (Tracker Item Submitted) made by sistisette You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478070&aid=3292451...

Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: puredata Group: v0.42 Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Private: No Submitted By: Matteo Sisti Sette (sistisette) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: can't set gui object size < 8

Initial Comment: I guess this is meant to be a feature, but it is actually not a good idea: if you create a cnv or toggle or bang and edit its properties and try to set its size to a value lower than 8, it will be changed to 8. "Invisible" canvases are useful to create text with transparent background, which can be placed on top of other gui elements. Until transparent colors are supported, the ability to create 1-size cnv's (indeed even 0-size should be allowed so that you can create one that is really invisible) should be maintained. Usually, a size of 1 is fine because you can place it on the border of some other element and thus you don't notice it.

Also, 1-pixel-size objects may be used to create all sorts of fancy GUIs. Why should the minimum be 8?

Note that patches saved with previous versions of Pd with smaller-than-8 cnv's are (fortunately) shown

On the other hand, a way of selecting a small object (this applies to cnv's as well as to any other gui element) and editing its properties when in edit mode should be provided. For example, after selecting it by dragging a selection rectangle (the only way to select it when it is so small unless you are willing to keep trying untill you actually click on it), it would be nice to have a menu item such as Object/Properties or the like accessible through Pd's menu bar.

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