Patches item #3418851, was opened at 2011-10-05 05:19 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by zmoelnig You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478072&aid=3418851...
Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: puredata Group: feature Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Private: No Submitted By: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Assigned to: Miller Puckette (millerpuckette) Summary: read startup config files from /etc/puredata/conf.d
Initial Comment: Hello,
I was looking at using puredata from debian, and currently, it's a bit of a mess, if I want to use PD + gem, I need to install both, and then mess up with config files, or, as the readme suggest (Readme.Debian), launch pd with an extenssive commandline:
| to start Pd with Gem support, issue the command (without the '%' sign) | | % pd -path /usr/lib/pd/extra/Gem -lib Gem | | OR | | use the provided script instead of directly starting Pd: | | % /usr/bin/pd-gem | | OR | | start Pd | - navigate to "File->Path..." and add "/usr/lib/pd/extra/Gem" to the list of search-paths | - click OK | - navigate to "File->Startup..." and add "Gem" to the list of binaries to be loaded | - click "Apply" and "Save all settings" | | OR | | add the following lines to your ~/.pdrc file (deprecated) | | -path /usr/lib/pd/extra/Gem | -lib Gem
I think it'd be better to automatially include a file, that's what this patch is all about (and to be able to make a pd extenssion debian policy).
tell me what you think
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Comment By: IOhannes m zmölnig (zmoelnig)
Date: 2011-10-05 13:09
Message: note, that even if all your patches were implemented, i would still rather NOT enable all apt-installed pdlibs by default (i guess i am with hans here)
instead, the sysadmin ought to decide on a case-by-case basis (something like apache's /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/)
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Comment By: https://www.google.com/accounts () Date: 2011-10-05 12:44
Message: @zmoelnig: (really, things are easier to discuss via mail =)) the first patch only alows to specify a config file from C, yet, we could easily make it a command line switch to be able to specify a file (or a directory) to load.
@zmoelnig: I'm a puredata beginer, but I'm concerned that pd-gem allows you to load only 1 extention at a time, what if you want gem + pidip + xxx ? I don't think it's an elegant solution.
@eighthave: good to know, that said, it doesn't seem widely used, I was looking at some docs, and some projects and no patch I found was implementing this, so I think it's easier to fix Debian/PD to include some/all installed ext, than fix all patches in the wild.
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Comment By: IOhannes m zmölnig (zmoelnig) Date: 2011-10-05 09:31
Message: about the given patch: this is definitely a nice idea (i haven't looked at the patch though), and allows to easily switch between predefined flavours of your installed Pd.
i think it's a way better solution than the config-switcher.sh script that comes with current Pd-extended, as it doesn't require write access in the home-directory.
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Comment By: IOhannes m zmölnig (zmoelnig) Date: 2011-10-05 09:21
Message: @anonymous(how i hate the openID implementation on sf): i don't see how starting "pd-gem" is "messing up with config files" or "launching "with an extensive commandline". alternatively, you can always launch pd/Gem from the menu
@eighthave: using [declare] or [import] is one of many options how to load library. other ways have their value as well, and i don't think we should force people to do something (even if we do believe that they should do it) (and yes, i am not always true to this suggestion myself :-))
finally, the two patches submitted are somewhat independent (though related): - having the opportunity to force the use of a given preference file - implementing an /etc/*/conf.d/ style config cascade
i would suggest submitting them separately.
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Comment By: Hans-Christoph Steiner (eighthave) Date: 2011-10-05 06:05
Message: For loading libraries, you should do it directly in the patch using either [declare -lib] or [import] (apt-get install puredata-import).
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Comment By: https://www.google.com/accounts () Date: 2011-10-05 05:22
Message: ok,... I can't seem to add my second patch,... you can find everything in: http://core.evilgiggle.com/~xaiki/puredata/
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