It looks like some object is corrupting memory - I don't know how to figure out what object it is, short of laboriously cutting parts of the patch away and seeing what makes the crashes stop. I don't know either if the problem is coming from Pd itself or some extern from extended.

Perhaps the first thing to try is to find a sequence of operations that reliably crashes, then start simplifying until it becomes clear where the offending object is hiding...

cheers Miller

On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 04:06:54AM -0800, Luke Iannini wrote:

Here's another from tonight... this time from hitting "Escape", which I have mapped to switch off some spigots in my patch.

On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 1:19 AM, Luke Iannini lukexipd@gmail.com wrote:

...

Hallo, I'm writing to ask for help tracking down some very bad crash bugs that have been biting me daily for a good year (sigh, why does it take me so long to confront such issues : ) ).

The crash always occurs when I am saving an instance of an abstraction containing a "Number2" number box, and I believe this portion is always the same:

Thread 0 Crashed: 0 pd 0x00006369 glist_getcanvas + 10 (g_graph.c:187) 1 pd 0x00002b25 glist_isvisible + 30 (g_canvas.c:854) 2 pd 0x0002cc7d my_numbox_draw_update + 28 (g_numbox.c:138) 3 pd 0x0004447c sys_pollgui + 179 (s_inter.c:759) 4 pd 0x00041728 m_scheduler + 348 (m_sched.c:468) 5 pd 0x00043770 sys_main + 1524 (s_main.c:320) 6 pd 0x000021ae _start + 216 7 pd 0x000020d5 start + 41

All of my abstractions tend to have many instances, so it seems to be during the reload process that the crash occurs. As far as I can tell, the patch always does save succesfully before the crash. I've tried recreating the conditions with a stripped down GOP abstraction containing a numbox2 and saving it, but haven't succeeded yet.

And, here's another one. I didn't record any specific factors for this one, but I'll try to if I see it again. Thread 0 Crashed: 0 pd 0x00039c9d pd_typedmess + 109 (m_class.c:695) 1 pd 0x00039f64 pd_typedmess + 820 (m_class.c:805) 2 pd 0x00038c0a bindlist_anything + 49 (m_pd.c:107) 3 pd 0x00039f64 pd_typedmess + 820 (m_class.c:805) 4 pd 0x0003d7df binbuf_eval + 1043 (m_binbuf.c:677) 5 pd 0x000448ca socketreceiver_read + 1016 (s_inter.c:553) 6 pd 0x00043983 sys_domicrosleep + 367 (s_inter.c:193) 7 pd 0x000443e3 sys_pollgui + 26 (s_inter.c:840) 8 pd 0x00041728 m_scheduler + 348 (m_sched.c:468) 9 pd 0x00043770 sys_main + 1524 (s_main.c:320) 10 pd 0x000021ae _start + 216 11 pd 0x000020d5 start + 41

I've had a pretty rough time with my admittedly large abstraction suite. I haven't read anyone else complaining so I guess I'm alone in trying to make a Cubase (circa 1990)-scale program in Pd, but it does work, wonderfully so (with shockingly low CPU utilization), when I'm not running into crashes, so I'd rather not be told "don't try to make large applications in Pd : )" since the issues seem to be on the loading (very slow) and saving (very unreliable) side of things rather than the actual operational side.

This is running Pd-extended 0.40 on Intel OS X.

I attached the full crash logs.

Best Luke

Process: pd [2252] Path: /Applications/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/../bin/pd Identifier: pd Version: ??? (???) Code Type: X86 (Native) Parent Process: Pd-extended [2251]

Date/Time: 2008-12-12 04:01:43.436 -0800 OS Version: Mac OS X 10.5.5 (9F2114) Report Version: 6

Exception Type: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (SIGBUS) Exception Codes: KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE at 0x000000000003b4b4 Crashed Thread: 0

Thread 0 Crashed: 0 ??? 0x00492000 pd_canvasmaker + 0 1 pd 0x0003b484 outlet_list + 78 (m_obj.c:427) 2 pd 0x000672fb list_append_list + 106 (x_list.c:201) 3 pd 0x000390cf pd_defaultbang + 60 (m_class.c:44) 4 pd 0x0003b1f7 outlet_bang + 56 (m_obj.c:367) 5 pd 0x0003b1f7 outlet_bang + 56 (m_obj.c:367) 6 pd 0x0003b1f7 outlet_bang + 56 (m_obj.c:367) 7 pd 0x0003b302 outlet_float + 64 (m_obj.c:393) 8 pd 0x00038bcb bindlist_list + 49 (m_pd.c:99) 9 pd 0x0002114a canvas_key + 401 (g_editor.c:1534) 10 pd 0x00039f11 pd_typedmess + 737 (m_class.c:703) 11 pd 0x00039f64 pd_typedmess + 820 (m_class.c:805) 12 pd 0x0003d7df binbuf_eval + 1043 (m_binbuf.c:677) 13 pd 0x000448ca socketreceiver_read + 1016 (s_inter.c:553) 14 pd 0x00043983 sys_domicrosleep + 367 (s_inter.c:193) 15 pd 0x000439e8 sys_microsleep + 19 (s_inter.c:216) 16 pd 0x0004185e m_scheduler + 658 (m_sched.c:492) 17 pd 0x00043770 sys_main + 1524 (s_main.c:320) 18 pd 0x000021ae _start + 216 19 pd 0x000020d5 start + 41

Thread 1: 0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9306cd06 mach_msg_trap + 10 1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x930744fc mach_msg + 72 2 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x918840ce CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 1790 3 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x91884cf8 CFRunLoopRunInMode + 88 4 com.apple.audio.CoreAudio 0x919ed468 HALRunLoop::OwnThread(void*) + 160 5 com.apple.audio.CoreAudio 0x919ed304 CAPThread::Entry(CAPThread*) + 96 6 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9309df79 _pthread_start + 321 7 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9309de36 thread_start + 34

Thread 2: 0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9306cd06 mach_msg_trap + 10 1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x930744fc mach_msg + 72 2 ....audio_hijack_server.hermes 0x011a34ce ah_serv_loop + 109 3 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9309df79 _pthread_start + 321 4 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9309de36 thread_start + 34

Thread 3: 0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9306cd66 semaphore_timedwait_signal_trap + 10 1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9309f0d3 _pthread_cond_wait + 1244 2 libSystem.B.dylib 0x930a0957 pthread_cond_timedwait_relative_np + 47 3 com.apple.audio.CoreAudio 0x919fca4b CAGuard::WaitFor(unsigned long long) + 213 4 com.apple.audio.CoreAudio 0x919fe606 CAGuard::WaitUntil(unsigned long long) + 70 5 com.apple.audio.CoreAudio 0x919fcdab HP_IOThread::WorkLoop() + 759 6 com.apple.audio.CoreAudio 0x919fcaaf HP_IOThread::ThreadEntry(HP_IOThread*) + 17 7 com.apple.audio.CoreAudio 0x919ed304 CAPThread::Entry(CAPThread*) + 96 8 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9309df79 _pthread_start + 321 9 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9309de36 thread_start + 34

Thread 4: 0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9306cd66 semaphore_timedwait_signal_trap + 10 1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9309f0d3 _pthread_cond_wait + 1244 2 libSystem.B.dylib 0x930a0957 pthread_cond_timedwait_relative_np + 47 3 com.apple.audio.CoreAudio 0x919fca4b CAGuard::WaitFor(unsigned long long) + 213 4 com.apple.audio.CoreAudio 0x919fe606 CAGuard::WaitUntil(unsigned long long) + 70 5 com.apple.audio.CoreAudio 0x919fcdab HP_IOThread::WorkLoop() + 759 6 com.apple.audio.CoreAudio 0x919fcaaf HP_IOThread::ThreadEntry(HP_IOThread*) + 17 7 com.apple.audio.CoreAudio 0x919ed304 CAPThread::Entry(CAPThread*) + 96 8 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9309df79 _pthread_start + 321 9 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9309de36 thread_start + 34

Thread 5: 0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x93073eee __semwait_signal + 10 1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9309ebf1 pthread_cond_wait$UNIX2003 + 73 2 libGLProgrammability.dylib 0x95dbcb32 glvmDoWork + 162 3 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9309df79 _pthread_start + 321 4 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9309de36 thread_start + 34

Thread 6: 0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9306cd06 mach_msg_trap + 10 1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x930744fc mach_msg + 72 2 com.apple.audio.midi.CoreMIDI 0x00625f0f XServerMachPort::ReceiveMessage(int&, void*, int&) + 101 3 com.apple.audio.midi.CoreMIDI 0x00618477 MIDIInPortThread::Run() + 111 4 com.apple.audio.midi.CoreMIDI 0x0061c07d XThread::RunHelper(void*) + 17 5 com.apple.audio.midi.CoreMIDI 0x006269ee CAPThread::Entry(CAPThread*) + 96 6 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9309df79 _pthread_start + 321 7 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9309de36 thread_start + 34

Thread 0 crashed with X86 Thread State (32-bit): eax: 0x00089847 ebx: 0x0003b444 ecx: 0x002d2031 edx: 0x13a2b460 edi: 0xbffc68b4 esi: 0x13a2b410 ebp: 0xbfffdca8 esp: 0xbfffdc88 ss: 0x0000001f efl: 0x00010a86 eip: 0x00492000 cs: 0x00000017 ds: 0x0000001f es: 0x0000001f fs: 0x00000000 gs: 0x00000037 cr2: 0x0003b4b4

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