moin Daniel,

... forwarding to pd-dev ...

On 2008-07-02 01:17:53, "daniel c. howe" dhowe@mrl.nyu.edu appears to have written:

Hi Brian I re-installed a newer binary of pd-ext and added your dll...

And pd said: ------------------------------------------------------

ratts: Realtime Analog Text-To-Speech externals v0.07 by Bryan Jurish
ratts: Based on text-to-speech code by Nick Ing-Simmons and Jon Iles
ratts: and PD external code by Orm Finnendahl and Travis Newhouse
ratts: compiled by pddev on Mon Jun 30 16:26:18 EDT 2008

well, that looks right at least... do I assume correctly that you started pd with "-lib ratts"? (or included "ratts" in the "Startup" dialog of pd-extended?)

Seems like that did the trick! Nice work... Now what would be great is either the help files or a simple example...

the help files don't need to be compiled at all. they're included in the ratts source distribution; to get them installed, just do:

$ cp $RATTS_SOURCE_ROOT/src/*-help.pd /pdext/doc/5.reference

I tried using the attached patch (rattsass.pd), but get the usual errors about not being able to create the other objects... (I'm guessing they are packaged in the .dll??) [see msgs below], or maybe I am missing something obvious?? (FYI: my pd-install is in C:\pdext and the extras in C:\pdext\extra)

well, they ought to be. "ratts" is a multi-object external, so all of the objects ought to be bundled into the single "ratts.dll". Now I seem to recall a lot of discussion on the list that multi-object libraries are deprecated for pd-extended (this being one reason I don't use pd-extended); not sure if this means they don't work at all, or if there's some extra magic that needs to be applied.

@list: can anyone enlighten me here?

pps. I still can't get PD to compile on this machine, even following the Msys/MinGW instructions as closely as possible [http://puredata.info/docs/developer/mingw]) so couldn't test your new configure script... :(

this sounds like a question for the list... im(ns)ho, you're likely to have fewer headaches in the long run if you compile yourself.

I'm still using an old-ish version of pd-vanilla, and I've never seen it produce anything like the log below. looks useful and intuitive though: i guess this is the hexloader stuff folks on the list have been on about :-)

when i first wrote ratts, i included a "multi-object" build mode which might help (if indeed pd-extended absolutely refuses to accept multi-object externals (which I would consider a bug), but unfortunately suspect may be the case); i have no idea though whether that build mode still works. I'll try it out at home later today... until then, perhaps the listers can enlighten us further?

======================================================================= input channels = 2, output channels = 2 input channels = 2, output channels = 2 1 devices in, 1 devices out tried C:\pdext\dch\guessphones.dll and failed tried hex(2):25,00,53,00,79,00,73,00,74,00,65,00,6d,00,52,00,6f,00,6f,00,74,00,25,00,2f,00,46,00,6f,00,6e,00,74,00,73,00,00,00\guessphones.dll and failed tried C:\pdext\extra\guessphones.dll and failed tried C:\pdext\dch\guessphones\guessphones.dll and failed tried hex(2):25,00,53,00,79,00,73,00,74,00,65,00,6d,00,52,00,6f,00,6f,00,74,00,25,00,2f,00,46,00,6f,00,6e,00,74,00,73,00,00,00\guessphones\guessphones.dll and failed tried C:\pdext\extra\guessphones\guessphones.dll and failed tried C:\pdext\dch\guessphones.pd and failed tried hex(2):25,00,53,00,79,00,73,00,74,00,65,00,6d,00,52,00,6f,00,6f,00,74,00,25,00,2f,00,46,00,6f,00,6e,00,74,00,73,00,00,00\guessphones.pd and failed tried C:\pdext\extra\guessphones.pd and failed tried C:\pdext\dch\guessphones.pat and failed tried hex(2):25,00,53,00,79,00,73,00,74,00,65,00,6d,00,52,00,6f,00,6f,00,74,00,25,00,2f,00,46,00,6f,00,6e,00,74,00,73,00,00,00\guessphones.pat and failed tried C:\pdext\extra\guessphones.pat and failed guessphones ... couldn't create

[isomorphic search & error messages for other ratts objects expunged]

error: inlet: expected '' but got 'bang' ... you might be able to track this down from the Find menu. ... (repeated)

marmosets, Bryan

(addendum): i just tried a single-object ratts build for pd-extended/linux here at work, and everything seems to be working as expected. the multi-object build mode is broken though (missing some "-lm" flags it seems); I'll get on that tonight.