Hallo!
Maybe this is a little bit ot, but it's also PD related, so I wanted to ask you for suggestions ...
I'm just starting a project at the university, which should be a remote control for PD, Supercollider, MAX, ... (all OSC-able programs) on a PDA, which can be used to fine-tune sound-installations, or as a performance instrument... (something similar to http://www.grenzenlosefreiheit.de) It should be a simple GUI, with that you can send OSC messages.
The user can create the GUI in the following ways:
- via specific OSC messages you can create GUI elements from the central computer (so in PD or Supercollider ...) with a kind of automatic layout - so you don't have to do it on the PDA
- on the PDA you can add GUI elements with automatic layout (so thats really easy to use and you don't have to read a tutorial etc.)
- you should be able to make more complex GUIs with QT-Designer (I will implement it in Qt/C++) - okay, now maybe you have to read a small tutorial ... ;)
The PDAs should also be networked, so that you can use multiple PDAs and if someone changes a specific OSC message the value should also be changed on the other PDAs.
I just wanted to put this on the list before I start to code. Maybe someone has some additional ideas, comments or criticism ...
Thank you, LG Georg
Hello,
maybe just use iARS and make a application instead of plugin for browser
[...]
(something similar to http://www.grenzenlosefreiheit.de) It should be a simple GUI, with that you can send OSC messages.
yes
The user can create the GUI in the following ways:
- via specific OSC messages you can create GUI elements from the central
computer (so in PD or Supercollider ...) with a kind of automatic layout - so you don't have to do it on the PDA
ok, but no OSC interface at the moment
- on the PDA you can add GUI elements with automatic layout (so thats
really easy to use and you don't have to read a tutorial etc.)
yes with simple xml - skript
- you should be able to make more complex GUIs with QT-Designer (I will
implement it in Qt/C++) - okay, now maybe you have to read a small tutorial ... ;)
yes you can add QT elements to gui.
The PDAs should also be networked, so that you can use multiple PDAs and if someone changes a specific OSC message the value should also be changed on the other PDAs.
thats problem of the pd patch, since pd is also a local backend on the pda.
maybe a little work to do to adapt iARS, its on the sourceforge so, you can just enhance it, maybe with a own branch
mfg winfried
Hallo!
maybe a little work to do to adapt iARS, its on the sourceforge so, you can just enhance it, maybe with a own branch
Okay, thanks for your answer. Maybe we should talk about all that ...
LG Georg
mfg winfried
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Also, if you are using Max and Pd, and not using any of the time tagging of OSC, then why not just use Max/Pd semi-color terminated messages? SuperCollider can easily interpret them and its built-in to Max and Pd.
Without the time tagging, there are really only major difference between OSC and Pd messages: " " instead of "/" separator
.hc
On Mar 27, 2005, at 10:20 AM, Winfried Ritsch wrote:
Hello,
maybe just use iARS and make a application instead of plugin for browser
[...]
(something similar to http://www.grenzenlosefreiheit.de) It should be a simple GUI, with that you can send OSC messages.
yes
The user can create the GUI in the following ways:
- via specific OSC messages you can create GUI elements from the
central computer (so in PD or Supercollider ...) with a kind of automatic layout - so you don't have to do it on the PDA
ok, but no OSC interface at the moment
- on the PDA you can add GUI elements with automatic layout (so thats
really easy to use and you don't have to read a tutorial etc.)
yes with simple xml - skript
- you should be able to make more complex GUIs with QT-Designer (I
will implement it in Qt/C++) - okay, now maybe you have to read a small tutorial ... ;)
yes you can add QT elements to gui.
The PDAs should also be networked, so that you can use multiple PDAs and if someone changes a specific OSC message the value should also be changed on the other PDAs.
thats problem of the pd patch, since pd is also a local backend on the pda.
maybe a little work to do to adapt iARS, its on the sourceforge so, you can just enhance it, maybe with a own branch
mfg winfried
PD-dev mailing list PD-dev@iem.at http://iem.at/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pd-dev
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Hallo!
Also, if you are using Max and Pd, and not using any of the time tagging of OSC, then why not just use Max/Pd semi-color terminated messages? SuperCollider can easily interpret them and its built-in to Max and Pd.
Thanks for your suggestion, but it should also be possible to e.g. control normal audio editors or other programs which support OSC. And this becomes then a little bit tricky I think ?
LG Georg
Without the time tagging, there are really only major difference between OSC and Pd messages: " " instead of "/" separator
.hc
On Mar 27, 2005, at 10:20 AM, Winfried Ritsch wrote:
Hello,
maybe just use iARS and make a application instead of plugin for browser
[...]
(something similar to http://www.grenzenlosefreiheit.de) It should be a simple GUI, with that you can send OSC messages.
yes
The user can create the GUI in the following ways:
- via specific OSC messages you can create GUI elements from the
central computer (so in PD or Supercollider ...) with a kind of automatic layout - so you don't have to do it on the PDA
ok, but no OSC interface at the moment
- on the PDA you can add GUI elements with automatic layout (so thats
really easy to use and you don't have to read a tutorial etc.)
yes with simple xml - skript
- you should be able to make more complex GUIs with QT-Designer (I
will implement it in Qt/C++) - okay, now maybe you have to read a small tutorial ... ;)
yes you can add QT elements to gui.
The PDAs should also be networked, so that you can use multiple PDAs and if someone changes a specific OSC message the value should also be changed on the other PDAs.
thats problem of the pd patch, since pd is also a local backend on the pda.
maybe a little work to do to adapt iARS, its on the sourceforge so, you can just enhance it, maybe with a own branch
mfg winfried
PD-dev mailing list PD-dev@iem.at http://iem.at/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pd-dev
Man has survived hitherto because he was too ignorant to know how to realize his wishes. Now that he can realize them, he must either change them, or perish. -William Carlos Williams
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On Mar 29, 2005, at 3:29 PM, Georg Holzmann wrote:
Hallo!
Also, if you are using Max and Pd, and not using any of the time tagging of OSC, then why not just use Max/Pd semi-color terminated messages? SuperCollider can easily interpret them and its built-in to Max and Pd.
Thanks for your suggestion, but it should also be possible to e.g. control normal audio editors or other programs which support OSC. And this becomes then a little bit tricky I think ?
LG Georg
Indeed, that's where OSC is definitely handy, a widely adopted standard, I was just going on the list you gave before (Pd, SuperCollider, Max).
I see many people struggling with OSC to get things like Java, PHP, etc. talking to Pd when really you can just open a network socket to a [netreceive] and send semi-colon separated plain text messages.
.hc
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