hey,
is desiredata still alive? i posted a couple of messages about trying to get an OSX version from SVN compiling a month or two ago and never got any replies..
otherwise, what's the status on UI development? if i was to just dive headfirst and try and fix some of the things that have been bugging me over the last week, is that at all useful or helpful? or is there someone i should talk to first?
i haven't been involved in development of any open source projects before, and i guess i'm just not sure what the procedure normally is.
in particular (i'm running Miller's 0.40-2 on OSX 10.4): - i'd like to bring in the multiple-level undo code from dd, or implement something similar - there seem to be some OSX-specific issues around sub-windows switching between PD windows - apple-` doesn't switch between PD sub-windows like it should. this could also be a Tcl/Tk issue. - there are consistent problems with populating the Window menu - the scrollbar down arrow is 95% hidden on the main Pd window, so scrolling messages down involves clicking a two-pixel-high strip, which is really hard - i'd like to put a scrollbar on the path preferences, so more than 10 lines can fit - mouse cursor alignment over the outlet 'plugs' on objects is bloody frustrating for new users (i've spent the week watching one) and it's just an offset issue i think - preserving newlines in comments! i don't know how possible this is (how tied comments are to Pd's core messaging system) but i'd love to be able to have multi-paragraph documentation with one comment object - occasionally when switching into a sub-window the mouse x offset is completely munted, so Tcl/Tk thinks the mouse is way over from where it should be - other things i can't think of right now
i suppose what i'm really asking is - if i went ahead and spent a week fixing all the UI things that really bugged me, assuming my code wasn't really stupid or ugly or bad, what's the chances my changes would make it out into the world, and so be useful for people who aren't me?
On Jan 25, 2008 1:40 PM, Damian Stewart damian@frey.co.nz wrote:
- other things i can't think of right now
On OSX the bottom right of the patcher window can be below the bottom of the screen - even at massive resolutions (1536 lines!). This makes it impossible to resize the window without manually editing the patch text. Some sort of check for max screen size should be in place. This is incidentally about the only app in the history of the MacOS that has done this.
chris clepper wrote:
On OSX the bottom right of the patcher window can be below the bottom of the screen - even at massive resolutions (1536 lines!). This makes it impossible to resize the window without manually editing the patch text. Some sort of check for max screen size should be in place. This is incidentally about the only app in the history of the MacOS that has done this.
Apple's very own Picture Viewer did that when you zoomed in, at least on OS9.
Martin
On 25/01/2008, at 21.17, chris clepper wrote:
On OSX the bottom right of the patcher window can be below the bottom of the screen - even at massive resolutions (1536 lines!). This makes it impossible to resize the window without manually editing the patch text. Some sort of check for max screen size should be in place. This is incidentally about the only app in the history of the MacOS that has done this.
This should be fixed in 0.41-0 according to the release notes, cf. <http://pure-data.cvs.sourceforge.net/pure-data/pd/doc/1.manual/ x5.htm?view=markup>
chris clepper a écrit :
On Jan 25, 2008 1:40 PM, Damian Stewart <damian@frey.co.nz mailto:damian@frey.co.nz> wrote:
- other things i can't think of right now
On OSX the bottom right of the patcher window can be below the bottom of the screen - even at massive resolutions (1536 lines!). This makes it impossible to resize the window without manually editing the patch text. Some sort of check for max screen size should be in place. This is incidentally about the only app in the history of the MacOS that has done this.
i suspect osX to be the only OS to allow a windows to be outside of the screen.
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Damian Stewart wrote:
hey,
- i'd like to put a scrollbar on the path preferences, so more than 10
lines can fit
in pd-0.41 you _can_ do more than 10 items; even though there is still no scrollbar, which gives you trouble when having more lines than fit on your screen (esp. with window-managers that do not allow you to move windows where you cannot see the windowbar)
i suppose what i'm really asking is - if i went ahead and spent a week fixing all the UI things that really bugged me, assuming my code wasn't really stupid or ugly or bad, what's the chances my changes would make it out into the world, and so be useful for people who aren't me?
make small atomic changes for each feature. (preferrably shrink the code) submit them to the patchtracker at sourceforge.
i think that chances are not that bad to get them accepted.
gfamsdr. IOhannes
IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:
make small atomic changes for each feature. (preferrably shrink the code) submit them to the patchtracker at sourceforge.
i think that chances are not that bad to get them accepted.
ok; i might just do that.
chur
On Fri, 25 Jan 2008, Damian Stewart wrote:
is desiredata still alive?
It's on hold until i get my own stuff sorted out.
i posted a couple of messages about trying to get an OSX version from SVN compiling a month or two ago and never got any replies..
I have three mails from you in my inbox. I'll get to that whenever I resume working on DD. I have no other date to say than "soon". But I don't really want to talk about DD on pd-dev anymore, so, see you on the desiredata list when I get to that point.
- i'd like to bring in the multiple-level undo code from dd, or implement
something similar
DD's multiple undo is still broken, but even if I fixed it, it wouldn't be portable to pd.
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