I'm not sure if this dialog is anywhere near settled (I got lost in the tangle of medusa-like message threads), but here's a +1 for [snake~].
I like the [object~ method] convention and the unique object name fits well in Pd vernacular to my ears. It seems like there's room to tack on lots of helpful methods...[snake~ info] could give us the specs of a given connection.
On Wed, Jan 25, 2023 at 5:58 AM Christof Ressi info@christofressi.com wrote:
In any case, I am really liking now that "snake~" feels like an object family
Me too! It is now clear that these objects are all releated.
"snake~ in", "snake~ out"
Actually, I would prefer [snake~ pack] and [snake~ unpack] because for me the meaning of "in" and "out" is ambigious. "pack" and "unpack", on the other hand, are pretty obvious.
Alternatively, we might just as well use [mc~ pack], [mc~ unpack], [mc~ split], etc. to save some keystrokes :-)
Christof On 25.01.2023 11:48, Fede Cámara Halac wrote:
Yes, join/split would be translatable, whereas translating "snake" can be slippery. I do think it is amusing, btw, and slides nicely next to sigmund~ and moses.
In any case, I am really liking now that "snake~" feels like an object family, that refers to the kind of signal, and you can say things like "snake~ in", "snake~ out", or even "snake~ split", "snake~ join" , or further, "snake~ rotate/flip", "snake~ encode/decode"
On Wed, Jan 25, 2023 at 5:49 AM Miller Puckette via Pd-dev < pd-dev@lists.iem.at> wrote:
OK... now I'm hesitating between "snake~ in", "snake~ out" and "snake~ tap" or "join~", "split~", and "tap~"...
Former is more colorful (and crowds the namespace less). Latter might be easier for non-native English speakers to deal with?
cheers Miller
On Wed, Jan 25, 2023 at 01:36:24AM +0100, Christof Ressi wrote:
Isn't "mux~/demux~" closest to what's actually happening?
Unfortunately, these are also zexy objects ;-)
On 24.01.2023 11:52, Max wrote:
Isn't "mux~/demux~" closest to what's actually happening? when "joining" two signals, I wouldn't expect them to be running in parallel but being mixed together.
m.
On 24.01.23 02:50, Miller Puckette via Pd-dev wrote:
So merging (hmm) some ideas from Fede and Dan, maybe
"join~/split~", and
a new tap~ object that allows you to pick channels out specifically. Then I think for example "clone osc~" might do OK for making an oscillator bank - assuming it turns out to be practical to send message-time lists to
the
frequency input. (Maybe that's someting clone should know how to do in other situations too).
still thinking about, for instance, "clone -" to make clones of an anonymous abstraction that you just edit into being live...
cheers Miller
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