So maybe the name of this menu item is a "Macism"?
yep. see https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/blob/master/tcl/apple_events.tcl#L58-...
... for this reason, the "HTML Manual..." entry is only added to the help menu for non-macOS or previous TCL versions: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/blob/master/tcl/pd_menus.tcl#L361-L36...
i'm not sure whether my new approach is good - so i'd certainly be glad if more eyes could check this. i see 2 options now: 1. create only the help menu twice outside the loop (what Roman tested): https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/compare/master...ben-wes:pure-data:fi... 2. create all these menus twice: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/compare/master...ben-wes:pure-data:fi...
after burning my fingers here, i'd prefer to let others decide. ;)
... and there's now unfortunately a need for a quick bugfix release based on this mess, i'd be curious if other mac users can reproduce what i reported in https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/issues/2719
cheers, ben
On Wed, Aug 6, 2025 at 3:09 PM Roman Haefeli reduzent@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, 2025-08-06 at 14:42 +0200, Miller Puckette via Pd-dev wrote:
OK, I'll wait until Roman (or anyone else) can verify this fixes it. (Meanwhile I've hit at least one crasher bug when deleting fields from [struct] objects (which sets off a chain of data resizing and relocation) - so I'll probably have something to update in a day or two as well.
I applied this patch¹ to pd_menus.tcl and the menu entry "Pd Help" appeared again and opens the HTML manual in the browser. From what I can tell, this looks good on macOS Sequoia with this patch.
Note: In Linux, the corresponding menu item is named "HTML Manual" which I find is more meaningful than just "Pd Help". Also, on the Mac, all menu items are localized except "Pd Help". I see in the code that macOS is handled differently. So maybe the name of this menu item is a "Macism"?
Roman
¹ https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/commit/7ec024e7edff662e03a980995e9e19...
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