btw, I don't as much this relates to the topic but: would this be a good time to have a look at the inneficiency of moving things around in a patch (specially arrays)? As I recall, you noticed the obvious, that whatever's chosen gets redrawn every time. I guess a click+grab+move detector (like the data structures already have) would be good to stop the redrawing - and even better, to put a picture with the contents instead, like when moving windows on the desktop.
Just in any I didn't get the word out, the GUI rewrite stuff is now merged with Miller's 0.43 beginnings in trunk and in a new branch:
https://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/pure-data/branches/pd-gui-rewr...
So this branch should be considered frozen in the past:
https://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/pure-data/branches/pd-devel/0....
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