Bugs item #3012451, was opened at 2010-06-07 11:11
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Category: None
Group: None
Status: Open
Resolution: None
Priority: 5
Private: No
Submitted By: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody)
Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody)
Summary: plugin~ help patch needs replacement
Initial Comment:
We have known for years that the plugin~ help patch can crash Pd if the requested LADSPA plugins are not present on the user's system. The issue has been addressed on the mailing list dozens of times, and a corrected help patch posted years ago by Frank Barknecht, however it has not been updated. As a final attempt, I post it here in the hopes that someone will take a few minutes to deal with this finally.
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>Comment By: IOhannes m zmlnig (zmoelnig)
Date: 2010-06-07 14:02
Message:
hmm, i tried both this help-patch and the one that comes with
PdX-0.42rc1.
both crash.
therefore:
- the attached patch doesn't fix any problem, since the crash can be
triggered by the user at any time (the bug is in [plugin~] not in any
help-patch)
- the attached patch doesn't fix the symptoms either
anyhow, thanks for the report
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Bugs item #3012451, was opened at 2010-06-07 09:11
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Status: Open
Resolution: None
Priority: 5
Private: No
Submitted By: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody)
Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody)
Summary: plugin~ help patch needs replacement
Initial Comment:
We have known for years that the plugin~ help patch can crash Pd if the requested LADSPA plugins are not present on the user's system. The issue has been addressed on the mailing list dozens of times, and a corrected help patch posted years ago by Frank Barknecht, however it has not been updated. As a final attempt, I post it here in the hopes that someone will take a few minutes to deal with this finally.
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Bugs item #3011925, was opened at 2010-06-05 20:40
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Category: pd-extended
Group: v0.41
>Status: Pending
Resolution: None
Priority: 5
Private: No
Submitted By: BAUDRY Olivier (baudry)
Assigned to: Hans-Christoph Steiner (eighthave)
Summary: trouble on pd extended 041.4
Initial Comment:
I have trouble on Mac intel tiger here the rapport crash log of puredata
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Comment By: Hans-Christoph Steiner (eighthave)
Date: 2010-06-06 19:32
Message:
Could you try a nightly build and report back whether the problem still
exists?
http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/latest/
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Patches item #3011815, was opened at 2010-06-05 11:15
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Category: pd-extended
Group: None
>Status: Pending
Resolution: Accepted
Priority: 5
Private: No
Submitted By: Dan Wilcox (danomatika)
Assigned to: Hans-Christoph Steiner (eighthave)
Summary: Path editor cannot edit bad paths
Initial Comment:
Running Pd-Extended 0.42.5 rc1 on Mac OSX 10.6.3
I moved some local lib folders and tried to update them in the Path editor. Selecting one of these paths and hitting Edit... results in a TK error dialog with the following message: Error: Bad directory "/Users/path/to/old/folder...". I cannot edit the path within PD, which is annoying.
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>Comment By: Hans-Christoph Steiner (eighthave)
Date: 2010-06-06 19:28
Message:
Oops, sorry about the typo...
I think parsing to the nearest good location could be nice, but too many
error messages gets confusing. I don't think this particular error message
would change the user's behavior, so it seems to fall on the "too much"
side.
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Comment By: Dan Wilcox (danomatika)
Date: 2010-06-06 18:44
Message:
Looks good, although you spelled my name wrong :D
Also, I added the console print for feedback as to why you'd be looking at
a dialog box in the home dir instead of the given path. Ideally, the bad
path should be parsed to find the nearest good location. For instance, if
the end folder name has been changed, the dialog box *should* start one
level down.
The current version is a quick fix so at least the editor is useable in
this case.
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Comment By: Hans-Christoph Steiner (eighthave)
Date: 2010-06-06 18:29
Message:
Accepted in an edited form, the error message seemed too much for such a
little thing. I also added it to 0.43 while I was at it. Here's the
commit:
http://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/pure-data?view=rev&revision=136…
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Comment By: Dan Wilcox (danomatika)
Date: 2010-06-05 12:06
Message:
I added PathEditor.patch for pd-tk which adds a check on existing paths
before editing them. If they don't exist, an error message is printed to
::pdwindow::error and the dialog path is set to the home dir.
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Patches item #3011815, was opened at 2010-06-05 10:15
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Category: pd-extended
Group: None
>Status: Open
Resolution: Accepted
Priority: 5
Private: No
Submitted By: Dan Wilcox (danomatika)
Assigned to: Hans-Christoph Steiner (eighthave)
Summary: Path editor cannot edit bad paths
Initial Comment:
Running Pd-Extended 0.42.5 rc1 on Mac OSX 10.6.3
I moved some local lib folders and tried to update them in the Path editor. Selecting one of these paths and hitting Edit... results in a TK error dialog with the following message: Error: Bad directory "/Users/path/to/old/folder...". I cannot edit the path within PD, which is annoying.
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>Comment By: Dan Wilcox (danomatika)
Date: 2010-06-06 17:44
Message:
Looks good, although you spelled my name wrong :D
Also, I added the console print for feedback as to why you'd be looking at
a dialog box in the home dir instead of the given path. Ideally, the bad
path should be parsed to find the nearest good location. For instance, if
the end folder name has been changed, the dialog box *should* start one
level down.
The current version is a quick fix so at least the editor is useable in
this case.
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Comment By: Hans-Christoph Steiner (eighthave)
Date: 2010-06-06 17:29
Message:
Accepted in an edited form, the error message seemed too much for such a
little thing. I also added it to 0.43 while I was at it. Here's the
commit:
http://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/pure-data?view=rev&revision=136…
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Comment By: Dan Wilcox (danomatika)
Date: 2010-06-05 11:06
Message:
I added PathEditor.patch for pd-tk which adds a check on existing paths
before editing them. If they don't exist, an error message is printed to
::pdwindow::error and the dialog path is set to the home dir.
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Patches item #3011815, was opened at 2010-06-05 11:15
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>Category: pd-extended
>Group: None
>Status: Pending
>Resolution: Accepted
Priority: 5
Private: No
Submitted By: Dan Wilcox (danomatika)
Assigned to: Hans-Christoph Steiner (eighthave)
Summary: Path editor cannot edit bad paths
Initial Comment:
Running Pd-Extended 0.42.5 rc1 on Mac OSX 10.6.3
I moved some local lib folders and tried to update them in the Path editor. Selecting one of these paths and hitting Edit... results in a TK error dialog with the following message: Error: Bad directory "/Users/path/to/old/folder...". I cannot edit the path within PD, which is annoying.
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>Comment By: Hans-Christoph Steiner (eighthave)
Date: 2010-06-06 18:29
Message:
Accepted in an edited form, the error message seemed too much for such a
little thing. I also added it to 0.43 while I was at it. Here's the
commit:
http://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/pure-data?view=rev&revision=136…
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Comment By: Dan Wilcox (danomatika)
Date: 2010-06-05 12:06
Message:
I added PathEditor.patch for pd-tk which adds a check on existing paths
before editing them. If they don't exist, an error message is printed to
::pdwindow::error and the dialog path is set to the home dir.
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Feature Requests item #3012132, was opened at 2010-06-06 10:59
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Category: None
Group: None
Status: Open
Priority: 5
Private: No
Submitted By: Jim Aikin (midiguru)
Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody)
Summary: Switch for Low-Latency MIDI thru
Initial Comment:
At present (unless I'm misunderstanding something), Pd passes MIDI messages from its input to its output with the same latency as its audio latency setting. There may be technical reasons for this, but there are also reasons (like, live performance) for wanting low-latency MIDI throughput even when the audio buffer is at its usual 100ms level.
I'd love to see a switch that would activate low-latency MIDI processing, as an option for situations where it's needed.
--Jim Aikin
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Bugs item #2939290, was opened at 2010-01-25 12:51
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Category: puredata
Group: v0.42
Status: Open
Resolution: None
Priority: 5
Private: No
Submitted By: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody)
Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody)
Summary: pd pegs process after suspend on Ubuntu/Karmic/64-bit
Initial Comment:
yes, its like that. pd eats all aviable processor resources after suspend until i close it. i have compiled version 0.42.5 without any errors on my ubuntu karmic (x64), using AMD Turion MK-36
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Comment By: Katja (katjav)
Date: 2010-06-06 19:54
Message:
I should better include the patch which I used to check these things.
#N canvas 628 67 463 505 10;
#X obj 98 198 metro 1000;
#X obj 98 250 +;
#X msg 98 223 1;
#X floatatom 98 278 5 0 0 0 - - -;
#X obj 98 173 tgl 15 0 empty empty empty 17 7 0 10 -262144 -1 -1 0
1;
#X msg 51 223 0;
#X text 11 222 reset;
#X msg 10 111 \; pd dsp 1;
#X obj 10 52 loadbang;
#X obj 77 87 delay 1000;
#X msg 77 111 \; pd dsp 0;
#X text 10 12 patch for testing sleep behaviour of [metro];
#X text 148 119 1: make sure DSP is turned on and then off.;
#X text 132 172 2: activate metro.;
#X text 135 279 3: watch seconds being counted in normal conditions
;
#X text 13 320 4: put your computer to sleep for a couple of minutes.
;
#X text 13 349 5: wake up your computer and watch the seconds-counting
box. Metro will probably execute all the ticks which it missed while
sleeping. This can cause considerable CPU load \, up to 100%. After
a couple of hours of sleep and with a faster metro speed \, CPU overload
may last for minutes.;
#X text 14 430 6: reset counter \, turn DSP on and do sleep - wake
up again. Probably you will find that the abovementioned behaviour
does not happen now.;
#X connect 0 0 2 0;
#X connect 1 0 3 0;
#X connect 2 0 1 0;
#X connect 3 0 1 1;
#X connect 4 0 0 0;
#X connect 5 0 1 1;
#X connect 5 0 1 0;
#X connect 8 0 7 0;
#X connect 8 0 9 0;
#X connect 9 0 10 0;
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Comment By: Katja (katjav)
Date: 2010-06-06 17:20
Message:
It took me a while to find out under what exact conditions the phenomenon
happens. But for me on OSX 10.5 it is like this: when dsp is turned on,
then off again, and the computer is put to sleep mode and waked up again,
metro will instantaneously count all it's lost ticks. However, it does not
happen with dsp on while going in sleep mode, and also it does not happen
when dsp is still "off" after Pd startup. (Is DSP really off at startup?).
I tried these things with Pd extended 0.41 but also with the latest build
of 0.42.5-extended-rc1. The behaviour is the same for both versions, as
far as I can see.
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Comment By: Hans-Christoph Steiner (eighthave)
Date: 2010-06-01 23:09
Message:
katjav, could you try a nightly build on Mac OS X? I am guessing this is
related to the 'audio stuck' code, which has been disabled on Mac OS X
builds of Pd-extended.
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Comment By: Katja (katjav)
Date: 2010-02-09 00:14
Message:
With Pd 0.41.4 extended on OSX 10.5 the same behaviour happens. More
specific I have noticed this: a switched-on metro object will send all it's
suspended messages at wake up after sleep. This makes Pd using 99% cpu
during some time, depending on the length of sleep period.
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Comment By: Hans-Christoph Steiner (eighthave)
Date: 2010-01-27 00:33
Message:
An example patch is always very helpful, especially if it triggers the
problem every time that it is run. Ideally the example patch would have
only enough objects to cause the problem, but nothing else.
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Comment By: Hans-Christoph Steiner (eighthave)
Date: 2010-01-27 00:33
Message:
Cannot reproduce using Pd version 0.42.5-extended-20100120 on Mac OS X
10.5.8.
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Comment By: kubriel (kubriel)
Date: 2010-01-25 17:45
Message:
ok, i logged in.
yes, but it is curious, why pd have to compute everything what had to be
done during sleep? it sounds useless.
i tried suspend my computer (for 5sec) with opened pd, but without opened
patch, it happens again - eats all aviable cpu (until i kill the proces),
but no patch opened.
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Comment By: Cyrille Henry (nusmuk)
Date: 2010-01-25 13:32
Message:
i can't reproduce this :
pd 42.5 ubuntu karmic i386
however, after suspend, pd have to compute everything that as not been
computed during suspend. so it can eat all cpu for some time, until it sync
again with real time. this is only if a patch that use cpu is open during
suspend.
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Bugs item #2939290, was opened at 2010-01-25 12:51
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Category: puredata
Group: v0.42
Status: Open
Resolution: None
Priority: 5
Private: No
Submitted By: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody)
Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody)
Summary: pd pegs process after suspend on Ubuntu/Karmic/64-bit
Initial Comment:
yes, its like that. pd eats all aviable processor resources after suspend until i close it. i have compiled version 0.42.5 without any errors on my ubuntu karmic (x64), using AMD Turion MK-36
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Comment By: Katja (katjav)
Date: 2010-06-06 17:20
Message:
It took me a while to find out under what exact conditions the phenomenon
happens. But for me on OSX 10.5 it is like this: when dsp is turned on,
then off again, and the computer is put to sleep mode and waked up again,
metro will instantaneously count all it's lost ticks. However, it does not
happen with dsp on while going in sleep mode, and also it does not happen
when dsp is still "off" after Pd startup. (Is DSP really off at startup?).
I tried these things with Pd extended 0.41 but also with the latest build
of 0.42.5-extended-rc1. The behaviour is the same for both versions, as
far as I can see.
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Comment By: Hans-Christoph Steiner (eighthave)
Date: 2010-06-01 23:09
Message:
katjav, could you try a nightly build on Mac OS X? I am guessing this is
related to the 'audio stuck' code, which has been disabled on Mac OS X
builds of Pd-extended.
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Comment By: Katja (katjav)
Date: 2010-02-09 00:14
Message:
With Pd 0.41.4 extended on OSX 10.5 the same behaviour happens. More
specific I have noticed this: a switched-on metro object will send all it's
suspended messages at wake up after sleep. This makes Pd using 99% cpu
during some time, depending on the length of sleep period.
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Comment By: Hans-Christoph Steiner (eighthave)
Date: 2010-01-27 00:33
Message:
Cannot reproduce using Pd version 0.42.5-extended-20100120 on Mac OS X
10.5.8.
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Comment By: Hans-Christoph Steiner (eighthave)
Date: 2010-01-27 00:33
Message:
An example patch is always very helpful, especially if it triggers the
problem every time that it is run. Ideally the example patch would have
only enough objects to cause the problem, but nothing else.
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Comment By: kubriel (kubriel)
Date: 2010-01-25 17:45
Message:
ok, i logged in.
yes, but it is curious, why pd have to compute everything what had to be
done during sleep? it sounds useless.
i tried suspend my computer (for 5sec) with opened pd, but without opened
patch, it happens again - eats all aviable cpu (until i kill the proces),
but no patch opened.
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Comment By: Cyrille Henry (nusmuk)
Date: 2010-01-25 13:32
Message:
i can't reproduce this :
pd 42.5 ubuntu karmic i386
however, after suspend, pd have to compute everything that as not been
computed during suspend. so it can eat all cpu for some time, until it sync
again with real time. this is only if a patch that use cpu is open during
suspend.
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Bugs item #3011925, was opened at 2010-06-06 02:40
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Category: pd-extended
Group: v0.41
Status: Open
Resolution: None
Priority: 5
Private: No
Submitted By: BAUDRY Olivier (baudry)
Assigned to: Hans-Christoph Steiner (eighthave)
Summary: trouble on pd extended 041.4
Initial Comment:
I have trouble on Mac intel tiger here the rapport crash log of puredata
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