Patches item #3414249, was opened at 2011-09-26 20:10
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Category: externals
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Status: Open
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Priority: 5
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Submitted By: Hans-Christoph Steiner (eighthave)
Assigned to: Martin Peach (mrpeach)
Summary: on 0.43 use logpost() to post version message
Initial Comment:
As part of the effort to get Pd-extended 0.43 to start with a blank Pd window, I made this patch that makes the version message use logpost() at level 3 instead of post(). That way anyone who wants to see the version message can switch to log level 3, otherwise the Pd window's log is nice and clean on start.
I'd commit it directly, but i wasn't sure whether that was OK with you.
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Patches item #3383472, was opened at 2011-08-01 01:22
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Submitted By: Jonathan Wilkes (jancsika1)
Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody)
Summary: tooltips part 3: the saga continues
Initial Comment:
Here's a new angle on the tooltips idea that adds three somewhat related functions to Pd:
1) "Autotips", available from the "Edit" menu. Parses help patches on the fly when the mouse enters an object/xlet. (Works the same with abstractions, too.)
2) Manual tips through a "tip" canvas method.
3) An "echo" canvas method, which just passes a message to a canvas without displaying it. (Useful in conjunction with the "get" method from my other patch, and probably other contexts as well.)
It's all done with some canvas bindings in tcl and a few canvas methods, so neither t_class nor t_widgetbehavior is touched. However, if it's desirable to add <Enter> and <Leave> widgetbehaviors at a later date, it should be possible without changing any of the code in this patch.
Hopefuly I "diff'd" correctly, against vanilla 0.43.0. (Works for me in Fedora 15...)
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>Comment By: Hans-Christoph Steiner (eighthave)
Date: 2011-09-26 17:50
Message:
The manual tip works with or without Autotips checked. Nothing else shows
up either way with the Autotips checked or not.
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Comment By: IOhannes m zmölnig (zmoelnig)
Date: 2011-09-26 15:32
Message:
it doesn't work, because the code is broken.
canvas_enterobj)( is declared as having 4 arguments of type A_FLOAT,
A_FLOAT, A_SYMBOL, A_FLOAT!
this is something that Pd's dispatcher cannot handle correctly: A_FLOAT
must never be followed by A_SYMBOL.
if you want a message like that, you have to use A_GIMME and parse the
message yourself.
afair, this is documented in the pd-externals-howto.
(you might be lucky on 64bit, that for some reasons it worked for you; do
not rely on that)
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Comment By: Jonathan Wilkes (jancsika1)
Date: 2011-09-26 14:39
Message:
Hm, not sure what to do other than ask the obvious. So I'll do that:
Do you get an "Autotips" checkbutton under the "Edit" menu? If so, did
you check it?
Do you get a little blue box in the bottom left-hand corner of the patch
when you hover over [clip]? Can you see the bottom of the help patch?
Do the manual tips work when you click the [tgl] in the tips help patch?
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Comment By: Jonathan Wilkes (jancsika1)
Date: 2011-09-26 14:27
Message:
Hm, not sure what to do other than ask the obvious. So I'll do that:
Do you get an "Autotips" checkbutton under the "Edit" menu? If so, did
you check it?
Do you get a little blue box in the bottom left-hand corner of the patch
when you hover over [clip]? Can you see the bottom of the help patch?
Do the manual tips work when you click the [tgl] in the tips help patch?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Comment By: Hans-Christoph Steiner (eighthave)
Date: 2011-09-26 13:41
Message:
I just tried a complete Pd-extended build with this patch, adn still no
luck,
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Comment By: Hans-Christoph Steiner (eighthave)
Date: 2011-09-26 13:40
Message:
Yup, that much I can figure out. In all of the demos, nothing shows up.
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Comment By: Jonathan Wilkes (jancsika1)
Date: 2011-09-26 12:58
Message:
Have a look at the demo patch in the tar below.
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Comment By: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody)
Date: 2011-09-26 12:54
Message:
I got it to compile and run fine, I just never got the tooltips to show up.
Edit Mode or not. Any tips there?
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Comment By: Jonathan Wilkes (jancsika1)
Date: 2011-09-26 12:08
Message:
I left out a step in the help patch-- you must be in "Edit mode" for the
autotips to work. This is purposeful-- I don't think transient popups
should get in the way of audio, or whatever else is going on in the patch
in "Run mode". However, you can get manual tips in both "Run mode" and
"Edit mode".
It's been awhile since I worked on this, so I just downloaded the source
for pd-0.43 from Miller's website, did "patch -p1 <tips.diff" inside the
pd-0.43-0 directory, and compiled-- and it works for me under Debian Wheezy
x86_64.
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Comment By: Hans-Christoph Steiner (eighthave)
Date: 2011-09-26 10:52
Message:
I tried to get this working a while back, but had no luck. I'll try again.
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Comment By: Jonathan Wilkes (jancsika1)
Date: 2011-08-01 01:25
Message:
See tips-help.pd to see how they work.
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Patches item #3383472, was opened at 2011-08-01 07:22
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Category: None
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Status: Open
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Submitted By: Jonathan Wilkes (jancsika1)
Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody)
Summary: tooltips part 3: the saga continues
Initial Comment:
Here's a new angle on the tooltips idea that adds three somewhat related functions to Pd:
1) "Autotips", available from the "Edit" menu. Parses help patches on the fly when the mouse enters an object/xlet. (Works the same with abstractions, too.)
2) Manual tips through a "tip" canvas method.
3) An "echo" canvas method, which just passes a message to a canvas without displaying it. (Useful in conjunction with the "get" method from my other patch, and probably other contexts as well.)
It's all done with some canvas bindings in tcl and a few canvas methods, so neither t_class nor t_widgetbehavior is touched. However, if it's desirable to add <Enter> and <Leave> widgetbehaviors at a later date, it should be possible without changing any of the code in this patch.
Hopefuly I "diff'd" correctly, against vanilla 0.43.0. (Works for me in Fedora 15...)
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>Comment By: IOhannes m zmölnig (zmoelnig)
Date: 2011-09-26 21:32
Message:
it doesn't work, because the code is broken.
canvas_enterobj)( is declared as having 4 arguments of type A_FLOAT,
A_FLOAT, A_SYMBOL, A_FLOAT!
this is something that Pd's dispatcher cannot handle correctly: A_FLOAT
must never be followed by A_SYMBOL.
if you want a message like that, you have to use A_GIMME and parse the
message yourself.
afair, this is documented in the pd-externals-howto.
(you might be lucky on 64bit, that for some reasons it worked for you; do
not rely on that)
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Comment By: Jonathan Wilkes (jancsika1)
Date: 2011-09-26 20:39
Message:
Hm, not sure what to do other than ask the obvious. So I'll do that:
Do you get an "Autotips" checkbutton under the "Edit" menu? If so, did
you check it?
Do you get a little blue box in the bottom left-hand corner of the patch
when you hover over [clip]? Can you see the bottom of the help patch?
Do the manual tips work when you click the [tgl] in the tips help patch?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Comment By: Jonathan Wilkes (jancsika1)
Date: 2011-09-26 20:27
Message:
Hm, not sure what to do other than ask the obvious. So I'll do that:
Do you get an "Autotips" checkbutton under the "Edit" menu? If so, did
you check it?
Do you get a little blue box in the bottom left-hand corner of the patch
when you hover over [clip]? Can you see the bottom of the help patch?
Do the manual tips work when you click the [tgl] in the tips help patch?
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Comment By: Hans-Christoph Steiner (eighthave)
Date: 2011-09-26 19:41
Message:
I just tried a complete Pd-extended build with this patch, adn still no
luck,
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Comment By: Hans-Christoph Steiner (eighthave)
Date: 2011-09-26 19:40
Message:
Yup, that much I can figure out. In all of the demos, nothing shows up.
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Comment By: Jonathan Wilkes (jancsika1)
Date: 2011-09-26 18:58
Message:
Have a look at the demo patch in the tar below.
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Comment By: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody)
Date: 2011-09-26 18:54
Message:
I got it to compile and run fine, I just never got the tooltips to show up.
Edit Mode or not. Any tips there?
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Comment By: Jonathan Wilkes (jancsika1)
Date: 2011-09-26 18:08
Message:
I left out a step in the help patch-- you must be in "Edit mode" for the
autotips to work. This is purposeful-- I don't think transient popups
should get in the way of audio, or whatever else is going on in the patch
in "Run mode". However, you can get manual tips in both "Run mode" and
"Edit mode".
It's been awhile since I worked on this, so I just downloaded the source
for pd-0.43 from Miller's website, did "patch -p1 <tips.diff" inside the
pd-0.43-0 directory, and compiled-- and it works for me under Debian Wheezy
x86_64.
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Comment By: Hans-Christoph Steiner (eighthave)
Date: 2011-09-26 16:52
Message:
I tried to get this working a while back, but had no luck. I'll try again.
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Comment By: Jonathan Wilkes (jancsika1)
Date: 2011-08-01 07:25
Message:
See tips-help.pd to see how they work.
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Patches item #3383472, was opened at 2011-08-01 01:22
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Submitted By: Jonathan Wilkes (jancsika1)
Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody)
Summary: tooltips part 3: the saga continues
Initial Comment:
Here's a new angle on the tooltips idea that adds three somewhat related functions to Pd:
1) "Autotips", available from the "Edit" menu. Parses help patches on the fly when the mouse enters an object/xlet. (Works the same with abstractions, too.)
2) Manual tips through a "tip" canvas method.
3) An "echo" canvas method, which just passes a message to a canvas without displaying it. (Useful in conjunction with the "get" method from my other patch, and probably other contexts as well.)
It's all done with some canvas bindings in tcl and a few canvas methods, so neither t_class nor t_widgetbehavior is touched. However, if it's desirable to add <Enter> and <Leave> widgetbehaviors at a later date, it should be possible without changing any of the code in this patch.
Hopefuly I "diff'd" correctly, against vanilla 0.43.0. (Works for me in Fedora 15...)
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Comment By: Jonathan Wilkes (jancsika1)
Date: 2011-09-26 14:39
Message:
Hm, not sure what to do other than ask the obvious. So I'll do that:
Do you get an "Autotips" checkbutton under the "Edit" menu? If so, did
you check it?
Do you get a little blue box in the bottom left-hand corner of the patch
when you hover over [clip]? Can you see the bottom of the help patch?
Do the manual tips work when you click the [tgl] in the tips help patch?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Comment By: Jonathan Wilkes (jancsika1)
Date: 2011-09-26 14:27
Message:
Hm, not sure what to do other than ask the obvious. So I'll do that:
Do you get an "Autotips" checkbutton under the "Edit" menu? If so, did
you check it?
Do you get a little blue box in the bottom left-hand corner of the patch
when you hover over [clip]? Can you see the bottom of the help patch?
Do the manual tips work when you click the [tgl] in the tips help patch?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Comment By: Hans-Christoph Steiner (eighthave)
Date: 2011-09-26 13:41
Message:
I just tried a complete Pd-extended build with this patch, adn still no
luck,
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Comment By: Hans-Christoph Steiner (eighthave)
Date: 2011-09-26 13:40
Message:
Yup, that much I can figure out. In all of the demos, nothing shows up.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Comment By: Jonathan Wilkes (jancsika1)
Date: 2011-09-26 12:58
Message:
Have a look at the demo patch in the tar below.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Comment By: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody)
Date: 2011-09-26 12:54
Message:
I got it to compile and run fine, I just never got the tooltips to show up.
Edit Mode or not. Any tips there?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Comment By: Jonathan Wilkes (jancsika1)
Date: 2011-09-26 12:08
Message:
I left out a step in the help patch-- you must be in "Edit mode" for the
autotips to work. This is purposeful-- I don't think transient popups
should get in the way of audio, or whatever else is going on in the patch
in "Run mode". However, you can get manual tips in both "Run mode" and
"Edit mode".
It's been awhile since I worked on this, so I just downloaded the source
for pd-0.43 from Miller's website, did "patch -p1 <tips.diff" inside the
pd-0.43-0 directory, and compiled-- and it works for me under Debian Wheezy
x86_64.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Comment By: Hans-Christoph Steiner (eighthave)
Date: 2011-09-26 10:52
Message:
I tried to get this working a while back, but had no luck. I'll try again.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Comment By: Jonathan Wilkes (jancsika1)
Date: 2011-08-01 01:25
Message:
See tips-help.pd to see how they work.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
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Patches item #3383472, was opened at 2011-08-01 01:22
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Submitted By: Jonathan Wilkes (jancsika1)
Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody)
Summary: tooltips part 3: the saga continues
Initial Comment:
Here's a new angle on the tooltips idea that adds three somewhat related functions to Pd:
1) "Autotips", available from the "Edit" menu. Parses help patches on the fly when the mouse enters an object/xlet. (Works the same with abstractions, too.)
2) Manual tips through a "tip" canvas method.
3) An "echo" canvas method, which just passes a message to a canvas without displaying it. (Useful in conjunction with the "get" method from my other patch, and probably other contexts as well.)
It's all done with some canvas bindings in tcl and a few canvas methods, so neither t_class nor t_widgetbehavior is touched. However, if it's desirable to add <Enter> and <Leave> widgetbehaviors at a later date, it should be possible without changing any of the code in this patch.
Hopefuly I "diff'd" correctly, against vanilla 0.43.0. (Works for me in Fedora 15...)
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Comment By: Jonathan Wilkes (jancsika1)
Date: 2011-09-26 14:27
Message:
Hm, not sure what to do other than ask the obvious. So I'll do that:
Do you get an "Autotips" checkbutton under the "Edit" menu? If so, did
you check it?
Do you get a little blue box in the bottom left-hand corner of the patch
when you hover over [clip]? Can you see the bottom of the help patch?
Do the manual tips work when you click the [tgl] in the tips help patch?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Comment By: Hans-Christoph Steiner (eighthave)
Date: 2011-09-26 13:41
Message:
I just tried a complete Pd-extended build with this patch, adn still no
luck,
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Comment By: Hans-Christoph Steiner (eighthave)
Date: 2011-09-26 13:40
Message:
Yup, that much I can figure out. In all of the demos, nothing shows up.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Comment By: Jonathan Wilkes (jancsika1)
Date: 2011-09-26 12:58
Message:
Have a look at the demo patch in the tar below.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Comment By: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody)
Date: 2011-09-26 12:54
Message:
I got it to compile and run fine, I just never got the tooltips to show up.
Edit Mode or not. Any tips there?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Comment By: Jonathan Wilkes (jancsika1)
Date: 2011-09-26 12:08
Message:
I left out a step in the help patch-- you must be in "Edit mode" for the
autotips to work. This is purposeful-- I don't think transient popups
should get in the way of audio, or whatever else is going on in the patch
in "Run mode". However, you can get manual tips in both "Run mode" and
"Edit mode".
It's been awhile since I worked on this, so I just downloaded the source
for pd-0.43 from Miller's website, did "patch -p1 <tips.diff" inside the
pd-0.43-0 directory, and compiled-- and it works for me under Debian Wheezy
x86_64.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Comment By: Hans-Christoph Steiner (eighthave)
Date: 2011-09-26 10:52
Message:
I tried to get this working a while back, but had no luck. I'll try again.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Comment By: Jonathan Wilkes (jancsika1)
Date: 2011-08-01 01:25
Message:
See tips-help.pd to see how they work.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
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Patches item #3383472, was opened at 2011-08-01 01:22
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Submitted By: Jonathan Wilkes (jancsika1)
Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody)
Summary: tooltips part 3: the saga continues
Initial Comment:
Here's a new angle on the tooltips idea that adds three somewhat related functions to Pd:
1) "Autotips", available from the "Edit" menu. Parses help patches on the fly when the mouse enters an object/xlet. (Works the same with abstractions, too.)
2) Manual tips through a "tip" canvas method.
3) An "echo" canvas method, which just passes a message to a canvas without displaying it. (Useful in conjunction with the "get" method from my other patch, and probably other contexts as well.)
It's all done with some canvas bindings in tcl and a few canvas methods, so neither t_class nor t_widgetbehavior is touched. However, if it's desirable to add <Enter> and <Leave> widgetbehaviors at a later date, it should be possible without changing any of the code in this patch.
Hopefuly I "diff'd" correctly, against vanilla 0.43.0. (Works for me in Fedora 15...)
----------------------------------------------------------------------
>Comment By: Hans-Christoph Steiner (eighthave)
Date: 2011-09-26 13:41
Message:
I just tried a complete Pd-extended build with this patch, adn still no
luck,
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Comment By: Hans-Christoph Steiner (eighthave)
Date: 2011-09-26 13:40
Message:
Yup, that much I can figure out. In all of the demos, nothing shows up.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Comment By: Jonathan Wilkes (jancsika1)
Date: 2011-09-26 12:58
Message:
Have a look at the demo patch in the tar below.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Comment By: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody)
Date: 2011-09-26 12:54
Message:
I got it to compile and run fine, I just never got the tooltips to show up.
Edit Mode or not. Any tips there?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Comment By: Jonathan Wilkes (jancsika1)
Date: 2011-09-26 12:08
Message:
I left out a step in the help patch-- you must be in "Edit mode" for the
autotips to work. This is purposeful-- I don't think transient popups
should get in the way of audio, or whatever else is going on in the patch
in "Run mode". However, you can get manual tips in both "Run mode" and
"Edit mode".
It's been awhile since I worked on this, so I just downloaded the source
for pd-0.43 from Miller's website, did "patch -p1 <tips.diff" inside the
pd-0.43-0 directory, and compiled-- and it works for me under Debian Wheezy
x86_64.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Comment By: Hans-Christoph Steiner (eighthave)
Date: 2011-09-26 10:52
Message:
I tried to get this working a while back, but had no luck. I'll try again.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Comment By: Jonathan Wilkes (jancsika1)
Date: 2011-08-01 01:25
Message:
See tips-help.pd to see how they work.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
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Patches item #3383472, was opened at 2011-08-01 01:22
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Submitted By: Jonathan Wilkes (jancsika1)
Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody)
Summary: tooltips part 3: the saga continues
Initial Comment:
Here's a new angle on the tooltips idea that adds three somewhat related functions to Pd:
1) "Autotips", available from the "Edit" menu. Parses help patches on the fly when the mouse enters an object/xlet. (Works the same with abstractions, too.)
2) Manual tips through a "tip" canvas method.
3) An "echo" canvas method, which just passes a message to a canvas without displaying it. (Useful in conjunction with the "get" method from my other patch, and probably other contexts as well.)
It's all done with some canvas bindings in tcl and a few canvas methods, so neither t_class nor t_widgetbehavior is touched. However, if it's desirable to add <Enter> and <Leave> widgetbehaviors at a later date, it should be possible without changing any of the code in this patch.
Hopefuly I "diff'd" correctly, against vanilla 0.43.0. (Works for me in Fedora 15...)
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>Comment By: Hans-Christoph Steiner (eighthave)
Date: 2011-09-26 13:40
Message:
Yup, that much I can figure out. In all of the demos, nothing shows up.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Comment By: Jonathan Wilkes (jancsika1)
Date: 2011-09-26 12:58
Message:
Have a look at the demo patch in the tar below.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Comment By: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody)
Date: 2011-09-26 12:54
Message:
I got it to compile and run fine, I just never got the tooltips to show up.
Edit Mode or not. Any tips there?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Comment By: Jonathan Wilkes (jancsika1)
Date: 2011-09-26 12:08
Message:
I left out a step in the help patch-- you must be in "Edit mode" for the
autotips to work. This is purposeful-- I don't think transient popups
should get in the way of audio, or whatever else is going on in the patch
in "Run mode". However, you can get manual tips in both "Run mode" and
"Edit mode".
It's been awhile since I worked on this, so I just downloaded the source
for pd-0.43 from Miller's website, did "patch -p1 <tips.diff" inside the
pd-0.43-0 directory, and compiled-- and it works for me under Debian Wheezy
x86_64.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Comment By: Hans-Christoph Steiner (eighthave)
Date: 2011-09-26 10:52
Message:
I tried to get this working a while back, but had no luck. I'll try again.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Comment By: Jonathan Wilkes (jancsika1)
Date: 2011-08-01 01:25
Message:
See tips-help.pd to see how they work.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
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Submitted By: Jonathan Wilkes (jancsika1)
Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody)
Summary: tooltips part 3: the saga continues
Initial Comment:
Here's a new angle on the tooltips idea that adds three somewhat related functions to Pd:
1) "Autotips", available from the "Edit" menu. Parses help patches on the fly when the mouse enters an object/xlet. (Works the same with abstractions, too.)
2) Manual tips through a "tip" canvas method.
3) An "echo" canvas method, which just passes a message to a canvas without displaying it. (Useful in conjunction with the "get" method from my other patch, and probably other contexts as well.)
It's all done with some canvas bindings in tcl and a few canvas methods, so neither t_class nor t_widgetbehavior is touched. However, if it's desirable to add <Enter> and <Leave> widgetbehaviors at a later date, it should be possible without changing any of the code in this patch.
Hopefuly I "diff'd" correctly, against vanilla 0.43.0. (Works for me in Fedora 15...)
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Comment By: Jonathan Wilkes (jancsika1)
Date: 2011-09-26 12:58
Message:
Have a look at the demo patch in the tar below.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Comment By: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody)
Date: 2011-09-26 12:54
Message:
I got it to compile and run fine, I just never got the tooltips to show up.
Edit Mode or not. Any tips there?
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Comment By: Jonathan Wilkes (jancsika1)
Date: 2011-09-26 12:08
Message:
I left out a step in the help patch-- you must be in "Edit mode" for the
autotips to work. This is purposeful-- I don't think transient popups
should get in the way of audio, or whatever else is going on in the patch
in "Run mode". However, you can get manual tips in both "Run mode" and
"Edit mode".
It's been awhile since I worked on this, so I just downloaded the source
for pd-0.43 from Miller's website, did "patch -p1 <tips.diff" inside the
pd-0.43-0 directory, and compiled-- and it works for me under Debian Wheezy
x86_64.
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Comment By: Hans-Christoph Steiner (eighthave)
Date: 2011-09-26 10:52
Message:
I tried to get this working a while back, but had no luck. I'll try again.
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Comment By: Jonathan Wilkes (jancsika1)
Date: 2011-08-01 01:25
Message:
See tips-help.pd to see how they work.
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Patches item #3383472, was opened at 2011-08-01 05:22
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Category: None
Group: None
Status: Open
Resolution: None
Priority: 5
Private: No
Submitted By: Jonathan Wilkes (jancsika1)
Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody)
Summary: tooltips part 3: the saga continues
Initial Comment:
Here's a new angle on the tooltips idea that adds three somewhat related functions to Pd:
1) "Autotips", available from the "Edit" menu. Parses help patches on the fly when the mouse enters an object/xlet. (Works the same with abstractions, too.)
2) Manual tips through a "tip" canvas method.
3) An "echo" canvas method, which just passes a message to a canvas without displaying it. (Useful in conjunction with the "get" method from my other patch, and probably other contexts as well.)
It's all done with some canvas bindings in tcl and a few canvas methods, so neither t_class nor t_widgetbehavior is touched. However, if it's desirable to add <Enter> and <Leave> widgetbehaviors at a later date, it should be possible without changing any of the code in this patch.
Hopefuly I "diff'd" correctly, against vanilla 0.43.0. (Works for me in Fedora 15...)
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Comment By: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody)
Date: 2011-09-26 16:54
Message:
I got it to compile and run fine, I just never got the tooltips to show up.
Edit Mode or not. Any tips there?
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Comment By: Jonathan Wilkes (jancsika1)
Date: 2011-09-26 16:08
Message:
I left out a step in the help patch-- you must be in "Edit mode" for the
autotips to work. This is purposeful-- I don't think transient popups
should get in the way of audio, or whatever else is going on in the patch
in "Run mode". However, you can get manual tips in both "Run mode" and
"Edit mode".
It's been awhile since I worked on this, so I just downloaded the source
for pd-0.43 from Miller's website, did "patch -p1 <tips.diff" inside the
pd-0.43-0 directory, and compiled-- and it works for me under Debian Wheezy
x86_64.
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Comment By: Hans-Christoph Steiner (eighthave)
Date: 2011-09-26 14:52
Message:
I tried to get this working a while back, but had no luck. I'll try again.
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Comment By: Jonathan Wilkes (jancsika1)
Date: 2011-08-01 05:25
Message:
See tips-help.pd to see how they work.
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Patches item #3414091, was opened at 2011-09-26 12:21
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Category: puredata
Group: bugfix
Status: Open
Resolution: None
Priority: 9
Private: No
Submitted By: Hans-Christoph Steiner (eighthave)
Assigned to: Miller Puckette (millerpuckette)
Summary: fix problem with arrow keys, Home, End, etc on Mac OS X 10.6
Initial Comment:
On Mac OS X >= 10.6 using Tk/Cocoa, pressing arrow keys, home, end, PageUp, PageDown causes a wierd invisible character to be typed into the object box. This patch is a workaround fix for the odd keynums for Home, End, arrow keys, etc. that are getting returned. It is based on the patch from Martin Humphreys, posted on the pd-list
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