Patches item #3418851, was opened at 2011-10-05 05:19
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Category: puredata
Group: feature
Status: Open
Resolution: None
Priority: 5
Private: No
Submitted By: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody)
Assigned to: Miller Puckette (millerpuckette)
Summary: read startup config files from /etc/puredata/conf.d
Initial Comment:
Hello,
I was looking at using puredata from debian, and currently, it's a bit of a mess, if I want to use PD + gem, I need to install both, and then mess up with config files, or, as the readme suggest (Readme.Debian), launch pd with an extenssive commandline:
| to start Pd with Gem support, issue the command (without the '%' sign)
|
| % pd -path /usr/lib/pd/extra/Gem -lib Gem
|
| OR
|
| use the provided script instead of directly starting Pd:
|
| % /usr/bin/pd-gem
|
| OR
|
| start Pd
| - navigate to "File->Path..." and add "/usr/lib/pd/extra/Gem" to the list of search-paths
| - click OK
| - navigate to "File->Startup..." and add "Gem" to the list of binaries to be loaded
| - click "Apply" and "Save all settings"
|
| OR
|
| add the following lines to your ~/.pdrc file (deprecated)
|
| -path /usr/lib/pd/extra/Gem
| -lib Gem
I think it'd be better to automatially include a file, that's what this patch is all about (and to be able to make a pd extenssion debian policy).
tell me what you think
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>Comment By: IOhannes m zmölnig (zmoelnig)
Date: 2011-10-05 13:09
Message:
note, that even if all your patches were implemented, i would still rather
NOT enable all apt-installed pdlibs by default (i guess i am with hans
here)
instead, the sysadmin ought to decide on a case-by-case basis (something
like apache's /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/)
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Comment By: https://www.google.com/accounts ()
Date: 2011-10-05 12:44
Message:
@zmoelnig: (really, things are easier to discuss via mail =))
the first patch only alows to specify a config file from C, yet, we could
easily make it a command line switch to be able to specify a file (or a
directory) to load.
@zmoelnig: I'm a puredata beginer, but I'm concerned that pd-gem allows
you to load only 1 extention at a time, what if you want gem + pidip + xxx
? I don't think it's an elegant solution.
@eighthave: good to know, that said, it doesn't seem widely used, I was
looking at some docs, and some projects and no patch I found was
implementing this, so I think it's easier to fix Debian/PD to include
some/all installed ext, than fix all patches in the wild.
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Comment By: IOhannes m zmölnig (zmoelnig)
Date: 2011-10-05 09:31
Message:
about the given patch: this is definitely a nice idea (i haven't looked at
the patch though), and allows to easily switch between predefined flavours
of your installed Pd.
i think it's a way better solution than the config-switcher.sh script that
comes with current Pd-extended, as it doesn't require write access in the
home-directory.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Comment By: IOhannes m zmölnig (zmoelnig)
Date: 2011-10-05 09:21
Message:
@anonymous(how i hate the openID implementation on sf): i don't see how
starting "pd-gem" is "messing up with config files" or "launching "with an
extensive commandline". alternatively, you can always launch pd/Gem from
the menu
@eighthave: using [declare] or [import] is one of many options how to load
library. other ways have their value as well, and i don't think we should
force people to do something (even if we do believe that they should do it)
(and yes, i am not always true to this suggestion myself :-))
finally, the two patches submitted are somewhat independent (though
related):
- having the opportunity to force the use of a given preference file
- implementing an /etc/*/conf.d/ style config cascade
i would suggest submitting them separately.
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Comment By: Hans-Christoph Steiner (eighthave)
Date: 2011-10-05 06:05
Message:
For loading libraries, you should do it directly in the patch using either
[declare -lib] or [import] (apt-get install puredata-import).
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Comment By: https://www.google.com/accounts ()
Date: 2011-10-05 05:22
Message:
ok,... I can't seem to add my second patch,... you can find everything in:
http://core.evilgiggle.com/~xaiki/puredata/
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Patches item #3418851, was opened at 2011-10-05 03:19
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Category: puredata
Group: feature
Status: Open
Resolution: None
Priority: 5
Private: No
Submitted By: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody)
Assigned to: Miller Puckette (millerpuckette)
Summary: read startup config files from /etc/puredata/conf.d
Initial Comment:
Hello,
I was looking at using puredata from debian, and currently, it's a bit of a mess, if I want to use PD + gem, I need to install both, and then mess up with config files, or, as the readme suggest (Readme.Debian), launch pd with an extenssive commandline:
| to start Pd with Gem support, issue the command (without the '%' sign)
|
| % pd -path /usr/lib/pd/extra/Gem -lib Gem
|
| OR
|
| use the provided script instead of directly starting Pd:
|
| % /usr/bin/pd-gem
|
| OR
|
| start Pd
| - navigate to "File->Path..." and add "/usr/lib/pd/extra/Gem" to the list of search-paths
| - click OK
| - navigate to "File->Startup..." and add "Gem" to the list of binaries to be loaded
| - click "Apply" and "Save all settings"
|
| OR
|
| add the following lines to your ~/.pdrc file (deprecated)
|
| -path /usr/lib/pd/extra/Gem
| -lib Gem
I think it'd be better to automatially include a file, that's what this patch is all about (and to be able to make a pd extenssion debian policy).
tell me what you think
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Comment By: https://www.google.com/accounts ()
Date: 2011-10-05 10:44
Message:
@zmoelnig: (really, things are easier to discuss via mail =))
the first patch only alows to specify a config file from C, yet, we could
easily make it a command line switch to be able to specify a file (or a
directory) to load.
@zmoelnig: I'm a puredata beginer, but I'm concerned that pd-gem allows
you to load only 1 extention at a time, what if you want gem + pidip + xxx
? I don't think it's an elegant solution.
@eighthave: good to know, that said, it doesn't seem widely used, I was
looking at some docs, and some projects and no patch I found was
implementing this, so I think it's easier to fix Debian/PD to include
some/all installed ext, than fix all patches in the wild.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Comment By: IOhannes m zmölnig (zmoelnig)
Date: 2011-10-05 07:31
Message:
about the given patch: this is definitely a nice idea (i haven't looked at
the patch though), and allows to easily switch between predefined flavours
of your installed Pd.
i think it's a way better solution than the config-switcher.sh script that
comes with current Pd-extended, as it doesn't require write access in the
home-directory.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Comment By: IOhannes m zmölnig (zmoelnig)
Date: 2011-10-05 07:21
Message:
@anonymous(how i hate the openID implementation on sf): i don't see how
starting "pd-gem" is "messing up with config files" or "launching "with an
extensive commandline". alternatively, you can always launch pd/Gem from
the menu
@eighthave: using [declare] or [import] is one of many options how to load
library. other ways have their value as well, and i don't think we should
force people to do something (even if we do believe that they should do it)
(and yes, i am not always true to this suggestion myself :-))
finally, the two patches submitted are somewhat independent (though
related):
- having the opportunity to force the use of a given preference file
- implementing an /etc/*/conf.d/ style config cascade
i would suggest submitting them separately.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Comment By: Hans-Christoph Steiner (eighthave)
Date: 2011-10-05 04:05
Message:
For loading libraries, you should do it directly in the patch using either
[declare -lib] or [import] (apt-get install puredata-import).
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Comment By: https://www.google.com/accounts ()
Date: 2011-10-05 03:22
Message:
ok,... I can't seem to add my second patch,... you can find everything in:
http://core.evilgiggle.com/~xaiki/puredata/
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On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 6:11 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans(a)at.or.at> wrote:
> So you are saying that the stuff in pd-double is not building using 64-bit
> floats?
I downloaded Pd-0.43.1-double-20111003-macosx106-x86_64.dmg from the
auto-build and this one was single precision. Don't know about the
other builds. Maybe it's better, for the moment at least, to set
logpost level 2 for the precision message at startup so you see it
immediately. I used log level 3 in accordance with your intention to
start Pd with a clean window, but in the testing phase this makes no
sense indeed.
> Let's get a github repo going so we can work on this stuff. Â Unless
> you want to, I'll happily set one up at:
>
> https://github.com/pd-projects/pd-double
Yes please if you want to, go ahead. I'm slow with these things, by
lack of experience. I even still have to learn git, and was comparing
features of github vs gitorious. Both seem fine.
In the meantime I'll work on a clean up of rewritten code then, and
based on pure-data.git instead of 0.43-0.
Thanks for the very supportive cooperation.
Katja
Patches item #3418902, was opened at 2011-10-05 05:21
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Category: externals
Group: bugfix
Status: Open
Resolution: None
Priority: 5
Private: No
Submitted By: Ricardo Fabbri (ricardofabbri)
Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody)
Summary: newer opencv detection for puredata_opencv
Initial Comment:
prior to this patch the code wouldn't compile (wouldn't pass configure) with newer OpenCV (such as from svn).
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>Comment By: Ricardo Fabbri (ricardofabbri)
Date: 2011-10-05 05:22
Message:
btw, this is also against puredata svn. Perhaps you should apply this patch
after patch #3418895, but they're really orthogonal.
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Patches item #3418902, was opened at 2011-10-05 05:21
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Category: externals
Group: bugfix
Status: Open
Resolution: None
Priority: 5
Private: No
Submitted By: Ricardo Fabbri (ricardofabbri)
Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody)
Summary: newer opencv detection for puredata_opencv
Initial Comment:
prior to this patch the code wouldn't compile (wouldn't pass configure) with newer OpenCV (such as from svn).
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Patches item #3418895, was opened at 2011-10-05 04:30
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Category: externals
Group: bugfix
Status: Open
Resolution: None
Priority: 5
Private: No
Submitted By: Ricardo Fabbri (ricardofabbri)
Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody)
Summary: updated configure.ac for puredata_opencv
Initial Comment:
basically newer autoconf require AC_INIT to have some mandatory arguments,
so this patch is strictly necessary for continuing development of puredata_opencv. without this patch autoconf will not generate configure from configure.ac.
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>Comment By: Ricardo Fabbri (ricardofabbri)
Date: 2011-10-05 04:35
Message:
I took the initiative to put lluiz's email in the configure.ac AC_INIT; If
you're not comfortable with that I can put my email, although I am not the
main dev.
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Comment By: Ricardo Fabbri (ricardofabbri)
Date: 2011-10-05 04:32
Message:
BTW this is against the latest svn.
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Patches item #3418895, was opened at 2011-10-05 04:30
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Category: externals
Group: bugfix
Status: Open
Resolution: None
Priority: 5
Private: No
Submitted By: Ricardo Fabbri (ricardofabbri)
Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody)
Summary: updated configure.ac for puredata_opencv
Initial Comment:
basically newer autoconf require AC_INIT to have some mandatory arguments,
so this patch is strictly necessary for continuing development of puredata_opencv. without this patch autoconf will not generate configure from configure.ac.
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>Comment By: Ricardo Fabbri (ricardofabbri)
Date: 2011-10-05 04:32
Message:
BTW this is against the latest svn.
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Patches item #3418851, was opened at 2011-10-05 05:19
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Category: puredata
Group: feature
Status: Open
Resolution: None
Priority: 5
Private: No
Submitted By: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody)
>Assigned to: Miller Puckette (millerpuckette)
Summary: read startup config files from /etc/puredata/conf.d
Initial Comment:
Hello,
I was looking at using puredata from debian, and currently, it's a bit of a mess, if I want to use PD + gem, I need to install both, and then mess up with config files, or, as the readme suggest (Readme.Debian), launch pd with an extenssive commandline:
| to start Pd with Gem support, issue the command (without the '%' sign)
|
| % pd -path /usr/lib/pd/extra/Gem -lib Gem
|
| OR
|
| use the provided script instead of directly starting Pd:
|
| % /usr/bin/pd-gem
|
| OR
|
| start Pd
| - navigate to "File->Path..." and add "/usr/lib/pd/extra/Gem" to the list of search-paths
| - click OK
| - navigate to "File->Startup..." and add "Gem" to the list of binaries to be loaded
| - click "Apply" and "Save all settings"
|
| OR
|
| add the following lines to your ~/.pdrc file (deprecated)
|
| -path /usr/lib/pd/extra/Gem
| -lib Gem
I think it'd be better to automatially include a file, that's what this patch is all about (and to be able to make a pd extenssion debian policy).
tell me what you think
----------------------------------------------------------------------
>Comment By: IOhannes m zmölnig (zmoelnig)
Date: 2011-10-05 09:31
Message:
about the given patch: this is definitely a nice idea (i haven't looked at
the patch though), and allows to easily switch between predefined flavours
of your installed Pd.
i think it's a way better solution than the config-switcher.sh script that
comes with current Pd-extended, as it doesn't require write access in the
home-directory.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Comment By: IOhannes m zmölnig (zmoelnig)
Date: 2011-10-05 09:21
Message:
@anonymous(how i hate the openID implementation on sf): i don't see how
starting "pd-gem" is "messing up with config files" or "launching "with an
extensive commandline". alternatively, you can always launch pd/Gem from
the menu
@eighthave: using [declare] or [import] is one of many options how to load
library. other ways have their value as well, and i don't think we should
force people to do something (even if we do believe that they should do it)
(and yes, i am not always true to this suggestion myself :-))
finally, the two patches submitted are somewhat independent (though
related):
- having the opportunity to force the use of a given preference file
- implementing an /etc/*/conf.d/ style config cascade
i would suggest submitting them separately.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Comment By: Hans-Christoph Steiner (eighthave)
Date: 2011-10-05 06:05
Message:
For loading libraries, you should do it directly in the patch using either
[declare -lib] or [import] (apt-get install puredata-import).
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Comment By: https://www.google.com/accounts ()
Date: 2011-10-05 05:22
Message:
ok,... I can't seem to add my second patch,... you can find everything in:
http://core.evilgiggle.com/~xaiki/puredata/
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Patches item #3418895, was opened at 2011-10-05 04:30
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Category: externals
Group: bugfix
Status: Open
Resolution: None
Priority: 5
Private: No
Submitted By: Ricardo Fabbri (ricardofabbri)
Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody)
Summary: updated configure.ac for puredata_opencv
Initial Comment:
basically newer autoconf require AC_INIT to have some mandatory arguments,
so this patch is strictly necessary for continuing development of puredata_opencv. without this patch autoconf will not generate configure from configure.ac.
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Patches item #3418851, was opened at 2011-10-05 05:19
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Category: puredata
Group: feature
>Status: Open
Resolution: None
Priority: 5
Private: No
Submitted By: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody)
Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody)
Summary: read startup config files from /etc/puredata/conf.d
Initial Comment:
Hello,
I was looking at using puredata from debian, and currently, it's a bit of a mess, if I want to use PD + gem, I need to install both, and then mess up with config files, or, as the readme suggest (Readme.Debian), launch pd with an extenssive commandline:
| to start Pd with Gem support, issue the command (without the '%' sign)
|
| % pd -path /usr/lib/pd/extra/Gem -lib Gem
|
| OR
|
| use the provided script instead of directly starting Pd:
|
| % /usr/bin/pd-gem
|
| OR
|
| start Pd
| - navigate to "File->Path..." and add "/usr/lib/pd/extra/Gem" to the list of search-paths
| - click OK
| - navigate to "File->Startup..." and add "Gem" to the list of binaries to be loaded
| - click "Apply" and "Save all settings"
|
| OR
|
| add the following lines to your ~/.pdrc file (deprecated)
|
| -path /usr/lib/pd/extra/Gem
| -lib Gem
I think it'd be better to automatially include a file, that's what this patch is all about (and to be able to make a pd extenssion debian policy).
tell me what you think
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>Comment By: IOhannes m zmölnig (zmoelnig)
Date: 2011-10-05 09:21
Message:
@anonymous(how i hate the openID implementation on sf): i don't see how
starting "pd-gem" is "messing up with config files" or "launching "with an
extensive commandline". alternatively, you can always launch pd/Gem from
the menu
@eighthave: using [declare] or [import] is one of many options how to load
library. other ways have their value as well, and i don't think we should
force people to do something (even if we do believe that they should do it)
(and yes, i am not always true to this suggestion myself :-))
finally, the two patches submitted are somewhat independent (though
related):
- having the opportunity to force the use of a given preference file
- implementing an /etc/*/conf.d/ style config cascade
i would suggest submitting them separately.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Comment By: Hans-Christoph Steiner (eighthave)
Date: 2011-10-05 06:05
Message:
For loading libraries, you should do it directly in the patch using either
[declare -lib] or [import] (apt-get install puredata-import).
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Comment By: https://www.google.com/accounts ()
Date: 2011-10-05 05:22
Message:
ok,... I can't seem to add my second patch,... you can find everything in:
http://core.evilgiggle.com/~xaiki/puredata/
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