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Suggestions for 0.54
by Alexandre Torres Porres 06 Jun '23

06 Jun '23

Ok, merging season is on and people have been suggesting PRs and there's lot of actions on the github repository. Here's my curated list to you Miller. First, something that I hope we cannot wait any longer as I first reported this bug like, I dunno, in version 0.46 :) a fix has been sitting for quite a while. This PR allocates the correct buffer size for delays based on the actual block size and is really important for some patches ==> *delwrite~: allocate extra space based on actual block size* https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/708 This is a nice fix that affects me with my tutorial and allows more colummns to be displayed, should be worry free I guess ==> *allow helpbrowser to display any amount of columns* https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/1240 *And now some PRs and features by myself...* Some features for [pdcontrol] (and I just pinged you about it on github for it) https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/828/ *allow flags to come first in [text sequence] * https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/1581 <== I actually consider this a bug (not as a feature as marked), it is not the way things usually work and it is in conflict with the way things are documented Some cool, useful and simple features: - load seeds based on system time for pseudo random number generators https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/1719 - Add font size argument for [drawtext] https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/1622 - [oscparse] improvements https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/1623 - Add channel inlet/outlet & argument for [makenote] https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/1670 Here's an old one that is more problematic: add an inlet to [receive] https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/604 it needs another PR which is "make pd_unbind safe" https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/1760 *This one need to solve conflicts, I'll try to find time and do it right away, but tell me if I shouldn't bother maybe* add '-h' flag for hexadecimal color in Data Structures. https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/1621 ------------ No pull requests but issues and requests I'd hope we could deal with but I know it might be too late in the game use same properties for horizontal/vertical versions of slider and radio https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/issues/1757 (hopefully IOhannes could do this one) allow data through signal connections ==> https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/issues/1887 This is a quite old issue that I'd just hope we could have some attention https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/issues/234 Cheers

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sqrt/(not q8_sqrt) for 0.54
by Sebastian Shader 05 Jun '23

05 Jun '23

As long as we're bringing attention to things to get into 0.54, it would be nice to finally resolve the sqrt/q8_sqrt differenceshttps://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/issues/1906https://github… the osc/cos symmetry stuffhttps://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/issues/105https://github.com/pu… -seb

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Pd 0.54 macOS stuff etc?
by Dan Wilcox 05 Jun '23

05 Jun '23

Howdy all, if we are in a release cycle, is there anything major I can look at? I’m thinking of Tk 8.6.13 for macOS builds, etc. enohp ym morf tnes ----------- Dan Wilcox danomatika.com robotcowboy.com

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Re: [PD-dev] double precision pd?
by Dan Wilcox 05 Jun '23

05 Jun '23

I agree the “64” naming, while technically correct, will just get mixed up with architecture. Too bad “dp” is already used by pddp. I now think of “wide” pd but that’s perhaps too general, although could be fun. enohp ym morf tnes ----------- Dan Wilcox danomatika.com robotcowboy.com > On Jun 5, 2023, at 12:00 PM, pd-dev-request(a)lists.iem.at wrote: > > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2023 11:44:54 +0200 > From: IOhannes m zm?lnig <zmoelnig(a)iem.at> > To: pd-dev(a)lists.iem.at > Subject: Re: [PD-dev] double precision pd? > Message-ID: <0891ab25-d572-828b-881a-cef4cc65c300(a)iem.at> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed" > >> On 6/4/23 17:22, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: >> well, great then, cause it's been merged :) time to get ready for double >> precision finally then I guess! Really excited about it <3 > > > the other question that ought to answered is: how do we actually call it > in order to prevent confusion? > > "Pd double precision" is a bit clumsy. > > "Pd64" is terser ("pd64.exe", "libpd64.dll"; and that's what I called > the tentative double-precision packages for Debian/Ubuntu/... for now) > but of course there might be some confusion with amd64/x86_64/arm64...

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Re: [PD-dev] Compiling debug mode for GDB on MSYS2 MINGW64
by Dan Wilcox 27 May '23

27 May '23

I would also suggest putting important platform-specific stuff with the sources in msw/README.txt. > On May 19, 2023, at 12:00 PM, pd-dev-request(a)lists.iem.at wrote: > > Message: 3 > Date: Fri, 19 May 2023 09:17:57 +0200 > From: Pierre Mallard <mallard.pierre(a)gmail.com <mailto:mallard.pierre@gmail.com>> > To: Christof Ressi <info(a)christofressi.com <mailto:info@christofressi.com>> > Cc: pd-dev(a)lists.iem.at <mailto:pd-dev@lists.iem.at> > Subject: Re: [PD-dev] Compiling debug mode for GDB on MSYS2 MINGW64 > Message-ID: > <CAKODt8xPxkv=mC9t9fU6LfY=bfOi651E55u5RoTx73tAXuEMyQ(a)mail.gmail.com <mailto:CAKODt8xPxkv=mC9t9fU6LfY=bfOi651E55u5RoTx73tAXuEMyQ@mail.gmail.com>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Hello Chris and everyone, > > Thanks for the trick, it could be nice to complete the wiki on > http://puredata.info/docs/developer/BuildingPd with at least your approach > (mine would require to patch msw/Makefile.am) > Let me know if it is worth it, I don't have an account there. > > Bye -------- Dan Wilcox @danomatika <http://twitter.com/danomatika> danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/> robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/>

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compiling externals for FreeRTOS
by Alexandre Torres Porres 22 May '23

22 May '23

Hi, for a project with friends I'm gonna try and dig pd for freertos and esp32... so I wonder, how crazy would it be to compile externals for it, like quite simple ones coded in plain c, no great dependencies? thanks

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Compiling debug mode for GDB on MSYS2 MINGW64
by Pierre Mallard 19 May '23

19 May '23

Hello everyone, I have been struggling a few days to achieve using gdb on msys2 mingw64. In case anyone is interested, here is how I finally succeed in using gdb. Note that I am a newbee on both autotools and pd so maybe there is a much more straightforward way to do so. Edit msw/Makefile.am to add -n for non stripping binaries : ... $(SH) $(top_srcdir)/msw/msw-app.sh -n --sources --builddir $(top_builddir) $(VERSION) ... Type following commands $ ./autogen.sh $ cd build $ ../configure --enable-debug CFLAGS="-g" $ make $ make app The generated pd.exe in pd-0.53.1 directory correctly execute but with no symbol in it. To retrieve symbol use libtool --mode=execute as follows : $ libtool --mode=execute gdb --args pd-0.53.1/bin/pd.exe ... Reading symbols from pd-0.53.1/bin/pd.exe... (gdb) b main Breakpoint 1 at 0x140001464: file ../../src/s_entry.c, line 30. (gdb) And this is it ! I'm using following pure-data sources : branch master, last commit : commit 3fde7100fcfb8fd0debb4e5f1b4c264e053a6254 Thu Apr 20 16:36:54 2023 +0200

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Re: [PD-dev] problem loading tcl tk plugin with binary
by Dan Wilcox 15 May '23

15 May '23

I agree. If you just need access to the popup menu, you can support both old versions and the new global popup by first checking the pd version or available of .popup (ie. check if it exists) and use the one available to the version. There are various examples of this in the Pd tcl sources, ie. checking Tcl/Tk versions or checking if a name or variabel exists before creating or trying to use it, etc. I also agree about the issue: it's likely the plugin may be trying to grab stuff that just isn; y there yet. I would move part of this setup stuff to something later in the process, ie. perhaps a lazy-creation proc which gets the plugin popup reference and sets the value from the global instance if it doesn't exist yet. > On May 15, 2023, at 10:08 AM, pd-dev-request(a)lists.iem.at wrote: > >> So, I'm not sure I get it but I'm assuming this won't be an issue in the >> next version, right? Please confirm. > > what would "not be an issue"? > with Pd-0.54 the ".popup" will not be created any more at all, so if > your code depends on such an item, it will fail. > otoh, Pd-0.54 will replace the ".popup" with a window-specific > "${win}.popup". this window-specific item will not be created until the > window is created, so if your code depends on such an item to exist at > startup time, it is likely to fail as well. -------- Dan Wilcox @danomatika <http://twitter.com/danomatika> danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/> robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/>

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problem loading tcl tk plugin with binary
by Alexandre Torres Porres 15 May '23

15 May '23

Hi, I have a test release for ELSE up in deken and I'm trying a new thing where it loads a tcl tk plugin when you load the library via the startup path. The plugin is an object browser that creates a drop menu when right clicking on a canvas, like the one I did for vanilla and you can get it. The release is marked as "else rc8 test" and you can get it. The binary code is in https://github.com/porres/pd-else/blob/master/Classes/Source/else.c and you get with the download a couple of tcl files, which are https://github.com/porres/pd-else/blob/master/extra/else-browser.tcl and https://github.com/porres/pd-else/blob/master/extra/else_tree.tcl It seemed to work fine for me and others, I tested on old macbook aur from 2013 with mojave. It doesn't work on a 2018 intel macbook pro with mojave as well, and gives this error. The file is found and loaded, *ELSE's object browser-plugin loaded via the 'else' binary* but I get this tcl tk error right after *(Tcl) INVALID COMMAND NAME: invalid command name ".popup" while executing"$mymenu add separator" (procedure "category_menu::create" line 3) invoked from within"category_menu::create .popup" ("eval" body line 55) invoked from within"eval [read [open [file join /Users/ale/Documents/Pd/externals/else else-browser.tcl]]]" ("uplevel" body line 51) invoked from within"uplevel #0 $docmds"* The thing is that if I load it as a proper tcl tk plugin it works when laoding Pd, and it also works ok if I load the else binary not on the startup but with decalre, for instance... To make things even crazier, the same macbook pro on another partition with monterey loads it just fine! tested with Pd 0.52-2 realy lost here so I hope the wizards could help me thanks

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Help with class_setsavefn
by Charles K. Neimog 27 Apr '23

27 Apr '23

Hi, I am developing one object called py4pd to allow me to load some Python functions as objects (very similar to py/pyext). I have one problem with class_setsavefn, because I need something similar to #X declare -lib mylibrary (an extra line in a specific place in the PureData Patch file) to load the Python functions before pd tries to load the Python objects that are added by the Python module (called pd). ``` py import pd def mygreatfunction(x, y) somegreatthing(x, y) def py4pdLoadObjects(): pd.addobject(mygreatfunction, "py.greatfunction") ``` To do that, I am working with this function link<https://github.com/charlesneimog/py4pd/blob/a49dd8b1c28e3162a45a805781f7cac…>. It works in some cases, but I have problems with undo and redo and a lot of instabilities with specific actions. https://github.com/charlesneimog/py4pd/blob/a49dd8b1c28e3162a45a805781f7cac… Question: Someone already had to add some extra lines in the pd patch in some specific order? What is the right way to do it? One observation: I am adding one new canvas_class method called py4pdLibrary, it loads the Python Library (the objects). Thank you very much! ________________________ Charles K. Neimog | www.charlesneimog.com<https://www.charlesneimog.com/> | Universidade de São Paulo

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