Pd-dev May 2020

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Doppler effect implementation
by Frodo Jedi 01 May '22

01 May '22

Hi all, I am searching for a Pd implementation of a doppler effect as realistic as possible. Any recommendations? Any patch/external already made and well tested? Cheers FJ

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My [hid] 0.7.1 fork builds without XCode
by Albert Rafetseder 24 Nov '20

24 Nov '20

Hello, TL;DR: Here's my fork of [hid] version 0.7.1 that needs no XCode to build on Mac OS X (10.11.6 on my end, hopefully on later macOSses too): https://gitlab.com/aaaaalbert/pd-hid It's based on https://git.puredata.info/cgit/svn2git/libraries/hid.git/ Long version: I'm just re-learning Pd and decided it would be a good idea to build it on my ageing Mac (which went marvelously!), and also build [hid] which didn't go that smoothly for me. In the versions of [hid] that I inspected [1], it requires XCode to build on Darwin, as the Makefile [2] passes to xcodebuild an XCode project file [3], lets XCode do its thing, then continues. I couldn't get my version of XCode to use the project file, running into this error: ``` xcodebuild: error: Unable to read project 'HID Utilities Slib.pbproj'. Reason: Project file 'HID Utilities Slib' was written by an unsupported Xcode version (38) ``` I soon gave up on hacking the project file and instead wrote a sub-Makefile for the Mac parts [4], adapted the main Makefile [5], and voilà! I can use a spare JoyCon game controller to feed button presses to my patches. I've built and manually tested my version of [hid], tentatively labeled 0.7.3, both on Mac (OS X 10.11.6) and Linux (Xubuntu 19.10) with PureData 0.50-2 as tagged on GitHub [6]. Outlook: I'm thinking of adding accelerometer support for the game controller, and perhaps sort out the values that hatswitches produce on different OSses. Thanks, Albert. [1] Here are the different versions / forks of [hid] that I found: * 0.7.1 --> https://git.puredata.info/cgit/svn2git/libraries/hid.git (That's the one I based my work on.) * 0.7 --> https://sourceforge.net/projects/pure-data/files/libraries/hid/hid-0.7.tar.… (as linked from the Pd wiki) * 0.7 --> https://salsa.debian.org/multimedia-team/pd/pd-hid/ * 0.7.1 --> https://github.com/agraef/purr-data/blob/master/externals/hid/ Binary releases from deken: * 0.7.1 --> http://puredata.info/Members/zmoelnig/software/hid/ * 0.7.1 --> http://puredata.info/Members/chr15m/software/v0-0extended/hid/ [2] original Makefile: https://git.puredata.info/cgit/svn2git/libraries/hid.git/tree/Makefile#n200 [3] XCode project file: https://git.puredata.info/cgit/svn2git/libraries/hid.git/tree/HID%20Utiliti… [4] sub-Makefile for Mac build, not using XCode: https://gitlab.com/aaaaalbert/pd-hid/-/blob/osx-build-without-xcode/HID%20U… [5] adapted main Makefile: https://gitlab.com/aaaaalbert/pd-hid/-/blob/osx-build-without-xcode/Makefile [6] https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/releases/tag/0.50-2

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Re: [PD-dev] Opening patches from libpd without accessing filesystem?
by Dan Wilcox 27 Jul '20

27 Jul '20

If you have suggestions for a libpd API which wraps this, I encourage you to open an issue on the libpd Github repo. If you have something working, even better. We can look into integrating or at least documenting it for others. > On May 6, 2020, at 12:00 PM, pd-dev-request(a)lists.iem.at wrote: > > As for my case, I think the garray_init idea suggested by you and > Christof Ressi is enough for me right now! I will test with it. -------- Dan Wilcox @danomatika <http://twitter.com/danomatika> danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/> robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/>

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inlets sending to wrong outlets
by Eric Lennartson 01 Jun '20

01 Jun '20

Hey all, I've been working with variable amounts of inlets and outlets and for the most part it's been working fine. If it's only variable inlets and the outlets are fixed, or vice versa, it works fine. However when both are variable I can't seem to get the inlets to go to the correct outlet. My current code is cycling through the inlets and outlets in pairs, but for some reason this isn't working. Any thoughts? Thanks Eric

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Re: [PD-dev] [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.51-0test2 for Macontosh - another try at code signing
by Christof Ressi 30 May '20

30 May '20

From my limited experience with Catalina in the last few weeks, if you haven't made an exception in Security & Privacy *the very first time* you try to load it, you have to delete and reinstall the library. It's infuriating that you can't unblock it after the fact. Christof On 30.05.2020 18:35, Miller Puckette via Pd-list wrote: > This is deeply worrisome... it seems like your OS has somehow decided to > ban the externs themselves (irrespective of Pd). > > Is it feasible for you to either make or download an extern you haven't used > before and see if an older Pd can at least load that one? And anyway, are > these your own externs (that you compiled) that don't load, or downloaded > externs, or both? > > thanks > M > > > On Sat, May 30, 2020 at 12:24:36AM -0700, Kevin Haywood wrote: >> For me, on almost-latest macOS (10.15.4, although 10.15.5 just came out), test2 will not load externals at all. >> >> I get the "??? couldn???t create??? message in the Pd Window, but whereas previously I could quit Pd, go to System Preferences > Security & Privacy and there would be a little message telling me the last piece of software that was blocked (and allowing me to unblock it), that message no longer appears. >> >> To make matters worse, when I go back to 0.50-2, none of my externals will load there, either, now that I???ve run test2. >> >> Yikes! >> Kevin >> >> >>> On May 29, 2020, at 4:01 PM, Miller Puckette via Pd-announce <pd-announce(a)lists.iem.at> wrote: >>> >>> To Pd-announce: >>> >>> Pd 0.51-0test2 is up. It should fix the code signing problem in test1 ofr >>> Macintoshes. No difference from test1 on other OSes. >>> >>> http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm >>> >>> cheers >>> Miller >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pd-announce mailing list >>> Pd-announce(a)lists.iem.at >>> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announc… >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pd-list(a)lists.iem.at mailing list >>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list__;… > > > _______________________________________________ > Pd-list(a)lists.iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

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Re: [PD-dev] code sign issues, was: can't get sys_getpreference to work on MacOS
by Dan Wilcox 29 May '20

29 May '20

Howdy Miller, Can you elaborate on the following? I'd like to confirm the new macOS builds are signed & notarized so they will run on macOS 10.15+. I'm now a bit unsure due to Alex's latest email on pd-list. > On May 26, 2020, at 12:00 PM, pd-dev-request(a)lists.iem.at wrote: > > (I'm also having trouble with "codesign", will describe that in a separate > mail). > > thanks > Miller -------- Dan Wilcox @danomatika <http://twitter.com/danomatika> danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/> robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/>

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Re: [PD-dev] [PD] Catalina makes Pd take too long to load externals? + Other annoyances.
by Dan Wilcox 29 May '20

29 May '20

If you can find a copy of an older Xcode DMG, then you can install it. The official downloads section on the Apple Developer site requires an account (basically an AppleID_. I believe you can make an account for free and only need to pay to distribute on the app store and run a build on a mobile device. Alex, you most likely already have an AppleID. If so, try this link: Downloads <https://developer.apple.com/download/>. Once logged in, click the small "More" link to the upper right. Then scroll down to find the latest Xcode 11.3 which I think is the last one supported by Mojave. We recently had to do this for my wife's work laptop as she had the same issue. If the login does not work, you need to open/associate your AppleID with a developer account. I don't remember anything about this as I did it so long ago now. Note: This is not a new issue and a little Google-fu would have turned up info like https://stackoverflow.com/questions/10335747/how-to-download-xcode-dmg-or-x… <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/10335747/how-to-download-xcode-dmg-or-x…> > On May 29, 2020, at 7:09 PM, pd-dev-request(a)lists.iem.at wrote: > > Date: Fri, 29 May 2020 19:09:10 +0200 > From: Christof Ressi <info(a)christofressi.com <mailto:info@christofressi.com>> > To: pd-dev <pd-dev(a)lists.iem.at <mailto:pd-dev@lists.iem.at>> > Subject: Re: [PD-dev] [PD] Catalina makes Pd take too long to load > externals? + Other annoyances. > Message-ID: <388e5909-355e-34f8-97d3-2717b8f27568(a)christofressi.com <mailto:388e5909-355e-34f8-97d3-2717b8f27568@christofressi.com>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"; Format="flowed" > > I think you don't even need a developer account. I somehow remember that > I've manually installed Xcode on my OSX 10.11 machine (which I can't > upgrade to newer OSX versions because it's too old). But I might be wrong... > > On 29.05.2020 18:05, Dan Wilcox wrote: >> If you have an Apple Developer account, you can download old versions >> of Xcode back to 3.0 or so. You have to login to the developer site >> and find the Downloads section. >> >>> On May 29, 2020, at 6:02 PM, Alexandre Torres Porres >>> <porres(a)gmail.com <mailto:porres@gmail.com> <mailto:porres@gmail.com <mailto:porres@gmail.com>>> wrote: >>> >>> I need XCode to compile Pd and my externals, I was forced to upgrade >>> to Catalina... and I cried... >>> >>> I might find a way to get a torrent from pirate bay maybe that allows >>> me to install XCode in mojave? I dunno... >> >> -------- >> Dan Wilcox >> @danomatika <http://twitter.com/danomatika <http://twitter.com/danomatika>> >> danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/> <http://danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/>> >> robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/> <http://robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/>> >> >> -------- Dan Wilcox @danomatika <http://twitter.com/danomatika> danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/> robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/>

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Re: [PD-dev] [PD] Catalina makes Pd take too long to load externals? + Other annoyances.
by Christof Ressi 29 May '20

29 May '20

I think you don't even need a developer account. I somehow remember that I've manually installed Xcode on my OSX 10.11 machine (which I can't upgrade to newer OSX versions because it's too old). But I might be wrong... On 29.05.2020 18:05, Dan Wilcox wrote: > If you have an Apple Developer account, you can download old versions > of Xcode back to 3.0 or so. You have to login to the developer site > and find the Downloads section. > >> On May 29, 2020, at 6:02 PM, Alexandre Torres Porres >> <porres(a)gmail.com <mailto:porres@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> I need XCode to compile Pd and my externals, I was forced to upgrade >> to Catalina... and I cried... >> >> I might find a way to get a torrent from pirate bay maybe that allows >> me to install XCode in mojave? I dunno... > > -------- > Dan Wilcox > @danomatika <http://twitter.com/danomatika> > danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com> > robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com> > > >

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help me find how I'm compiling Pd wrong for macOS
by Alexandre Torres Porres 29 May '20

29 May '20

Hi, now that Pd 0.51-0-test1 is out I can confirm I'm compiling Pd wrong. I've been using the yet to be 51 since december and opened two issues on github thinking the problem was 0.51, but it happens only when I compile Pd. For reference, the issues are: - https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/issues/848 - and https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/issues/927 The issue I'm having might be related to casting float to int but I wouldn't know how I could fix this by compiling Pd in a different way. Maybe more details are on the issues above, please check them. I'm just doing what I've been doing in order to compile Pd for a few years now, I do: ./autogen.sh ./configure make make app And out of sheer magic (at least to my eyes) a Pd app appears from nothing to me... cheers

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Re: [PD-dev] compiler oopses compiling s_net.c on windoze
by Dan Wilcox 28 May '20

28 May '20

That sounds good. What do you think Christof? Do you think it would alter any of the default behavior? I have to run so I can't look into this more until later today. > it's easy: AI_ALL and AI_V4MAPPED are only available since Windows Vista. > > the default settings compile for Windows2000 (or so). > > to compile for windows vista (and aboce), use the following macros > (preferably in the Makefile): >> -DWINVER=0x0600 -D_WIN32_WINNT=0x0600 > > (this is already done in the autotools-Makefile; but afaik not in the > src/makefile.mingw) > > alternatively (and probably additionally), the use of these macros > should probably be protected by ifdef clauses. > > in iemnet (which has backported some of the new code from s_net.c) i use: > > ~~~ > hints.ai_flags |= AI_PASSIVE > #ifdef AI_ALL > | AI_ALL /* both IPv4 and IPv6 addrs */ > #endif > #ifdef AI_V4MAPPED > | AI_V4MAPPED /* fallback to IPv4-mapped IPv6 addrs */ > #endif > | 0; > ~~~ -------- Dan Wilcox @danomatika <http://twitter.com/danomatika> danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/> robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/>

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