Pd-dev November 2011

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float format in tclpd
by Hans-Christoph Steiner 13 Nov '11

13 Nov '11

Just playing around with tclpd, pd::strip_selector makes working with the lists nice and easy in Tcl. One thing though: floats are rendered with trailing zeros, so [float 1( is rendered as {float 1.0} in tclpd. tclpd should really use [format %g $arg] to format the floats so that they are the same format as Pd. Pd uses printf("%g", arg). .hc ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Making boring techno music is really easy with modern tools, but with live coding, boring techno is much harder." - Chris McCormick

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externals implementing PD_FLOAT_PRECISION can't be compiled against pure-data, libpd, pd-l2ork etc
by katja 12 Nov '11

12 Nov '11

We now have PD_FLOAT_PRECISION in the Pd-extended API (even though it's value is still fixed at 32) and in Pd-double. This macro is sometimes needed for conditional compilation when making external libs ready for double precision. For example, to call sf_read_float() or sf_read_double() in libsndfile, or in case of a type punning trick which must be defined according to data type. Libs which use PD_FLOAT_PRECISION for such reason, are no longer compilable against pure-data, libpd, pd-l2ork and other types of pd. This is now the case for creb and smlib, for which I committed double-ready changes this week. Before I proceed committing to other libs, this issue should discussed with authors and maintainers of pure-data, it's forks, and external libraries. Historically, external libs have always been compilable against Pd flavours other than Pd-extended, no? It would be an awkward experience for anyone unsuspectingly copying a lib's latest revision from pure-data.svn and find it's no longer compatible with Pd other than Pd-extended and Pd-double! Technically, the solution is simple: a line '#define PD_FLOAT_PRECISION 32' in the API's would restore compatibility, when t_float etc. are still typedef'ed as float. It is not so elegant we have to bother many people with our double precision efforts, but it's impossible to develop this in isolation. Katja

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[ pure-data-Feature Requests-3436774 ] [tclpd] make $self namespace exist before calling constructo
by SourceForge.net 12 Nov '11

12 Nov '11

Feature Requests item #3436774, was opened at 2011-11-11 21:48 Message generated for change (Tracker Item Submitted) made by eighthave You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478073&aid=3436774&group_… Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: puredata Group: None Status: Open Priority: 5 Private: No Submitted By: Hans-Christoph Steiner (eighthave) Assigned to: mescalinum (mescalinum) Summary: [tclpd] make $self namespace exist before calling constructo Initial Comment: In order to really easily do: variable ${self}::myvar tclpd should do this before calling an objects constructor: if {![namespace exists $self]} { namespace eval $self {} } Or maybe there is the equivalent to the setup() function, where it can just call "namespace eval $self {}" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478073&aid=3436774&group_…

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[ pure-data-Bugs-3436716 ] Calling a tclpd with a namespace prefix crashes Pd
by SourceForge.net 12 Nov '11

12 Nov '11

Bugs item #3436716, was opened at 2011-11-11 15:18 Message generated for change (Tracker Item Submitted) made by eighthave You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478070&aid=3436716&group_… Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: externals Group: None Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 7 Private: No Submitted By: Hans-Christoph Steiner (eighthave) Assigned to: mescalinum (mescalinum) Summary: Calling a tclpd with a namespace prefix crashes Pd Initial Comment: If I create an tclpd object using a namespace prefix (i.e. tclfile/mkdir), it crashes Pd. Here's a backtrace: 0 pd 0x00029bc9 pd_new + 25 1 tclpd.pd_darwin 0x00789924 tclpd_new + 81 2 pd 0x0002b6fa pd_typedmess + 1418 3 pd 0x0002b8b3 new_anything + 419 4 pd 0x0002b4a8 pd_typedmess + 824 5 pd 0x0002f8bd binbuf_eval + 1565 6 pd 0x00009de0 canvas_objtext + 96 7 pd 0x0000d704 text_setto + 260 8 pd 0x00022c2f glist_deselect + 335 9 pd 0x00022d5e glist_noselect + 46 10 pd 0x00024de6 canvas_doclick + 2694 11 pd 0x000253ad canvas_mouse + 61 12 pd 0x0002b5bb pd_typedmess + 1099 13 pd 0x0002b4a8 pd_typedmess + 824 14 pd 0x0002f8bd binbuf_eval + 1565 15 pd 0x00038508 socketreceiver_read + 952 16 pd 0x00037439 sys_domicrosleep + 409 17 pd 0x00038041 sys_pollgui + 33 18 pd 0x00034a47 m_mainloop + 327 19 pd 0x00036aab sys_main + 1675 20 pd 0x00001ffb _start + 209 21 pd 0x00001f29 start + 41 This would be a good opportunity to support having a multi-tiered namespace for the class name, i.e. tclfile::exists, then $self could be based on that, so that self would be something like tclfile::exists::x0 or ::tclpd::tclfile::exists::x0 rather than ::tclpd.exists.x0 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478070&aid=3436716&group_…

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getting double fixes into extra/
by Hans-Christoph Steiner 11 Nov '11

11 Nov '11

Hey Katja, I was just reviewing the double precision patches for the extra/ section of pure-data. I think we should try to get Miller to accept the 'extra/' fixes into pure-data.git now. It seems to me that almost all of these changes are just float --> t_float, which are really no-brainers that would be really difficult to imagine causing problems. Plus judging by all the tests you have written, it looks like your code is already pretty well tested. There are only a couple changes in this patch that are not no-brainers. The first is in sigmund~.c, it looks like you just moved up the #ifdef PD and #ifdef MSP blocks to the top of the file. Seems harmless enough. Then there are a couple places where the code is using 'f' to force single precision, like: @@ -677,8 +678,8 @@ static void bonk_doit(t_bonk *x) { if (x->x_useloudness) growth += qrsqrt(qrsqrt( - power/(h->h_mask[oldmaskphase] + 1.0e-15))) - 1.f; - else growth += power/(h->h_mask[oldmaskphase] + 1.0e-15) - 1.f; + power/(h->h_mask[oldmaskphase] + 1.0e-15))) - 1.; + else growth += power/(h->h_mask[oldmaskphase] + 1.0e-15) - 1.; } if (!x->x_willattack && countup >= x->x_masktime) maskpow *= x->x_maskdecay; And cases where there are added typedefs which I don't really understand what's going on, like: --- extra_original/expr~/vexp.h 2011-09-06 11:13:12.000000000 +0200 +++ extra_double_ready/expr~/vexp.h 2011-09-06 11:13:12.000000000 +0200 @@ -37,6 +37,7 @@ #else /* MSP */ #include "ext.h" #include "z_dsp.h" +typedef float t_float; // t_float is from m_pd.h #endif #include "fts_to_pd.h" --- extra_original/fiddle~/fiddle~.c 2010-04-26 00:27:35.000000000 +0200 +++ extra_double_ready/fiddle~/fiddle~.c 2011-09-06 11:36:28.000000000 +0200 @@ -108,11 +108,11 @@ static fts_symbol_t *dsp_symbol = 0; #endif /* MSP */ #ifdef MSP -#define t_floatarg double #include "ext.h" #include "z_dsp.h" #include "fft_mayer.proto.h" - +typedef float t_float; +typedef double t_floatarg; #endif /* MSP */ #include <math.h> --- extra_original/loop~/loop~.c 2010-07-28 22:55:17.000000000 +0200 +++ extra_double_ready/loop~/loop~.c 2011-09-06 11:33:54.000000000 +0200 @@ -14,7 +14,8 @@ This file is downloadable from http://ww #ifdef PD #include "m_pd.h" #else -#define t_sample float +typedef float t_float; +typedef float t_sample; #endif --- extra_original/pd~/pd~.c 2010-07-28 22:55:17.000000000 +0200 +++ extra_double_ready/pd~/pd~.c 2011-09-06 11:38:12.000000000 +0200 @@ -26,7 +26,7 @@ #include "ext_support.h" #include "ext_proto.h" #include "ext_obex.h" - +typedef float t_float; typedef double t_floatarg; #define w_symbol w_sym #define A_SYMBOL A_SYM .hc ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- I spent 33 years and four months in active military service and during that period I spent most of my time as a high class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. - General Smedley Butler

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some tclpd questions/comments
by Hans-Christoph Steiner 10 Nov '11

10 Nov '11

I'm just trying my hand at writing my first tclpd library, 'tclfile', which is basically all of the individual subcommands of Tcl's 'file' command broken out as separate objects. This has given rise to a couple questions/comments: - do I need to use proc+ or can I just use proc? - it seems like the 'constructor' proc is the same as Pd's setup() function. If so, I think it should also be called 'setup'. - is there an 0_anything/A_GIMME proc that can be used? - multi-level namespaces to represent library and classname? Something like tclfile/mkdir would be tclfile::mkdir and have tclfile::mkdir::constructor. .hc ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- I spent 33 years and four months in active military service and during that period I spent most of my time as a high class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. - General Smedley Butler

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Fink package: pd-extended-dev for simplified setup
by Hans-Christoph Steiner 10 Nov '11

10 Nov '11

I recently made a new 'bundle' package for Fink that sets up all of the dependencies needed for building Pd-extended on Mac OS X. I'd love to see if this works for anyone else, you can test it by doing: fink selfupdate fink install pd-extended-dev .hc ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- All mankind is of one author, and is one volume; when one man dies, one chapter is not torn out of the book, but translated into a better language; and every chapter must be so translated.... -John Donne

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[ pure-data-Bugs-3435408 ] stack overflow not detected with select and an argument= fre
by SourceForge.net 09 Nov '11

09 Nov '11

Bugs item #3435408, was opened at 2011-11-09 03:22 Message generated for change (Tracker Item Submitted) made by maxn You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478070&aid=3435408&group_… Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: puredata Group: None Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Private: No Submitted By: max (maxn) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: stack overflow not detected with select and an argument= fre Initial Comment: when using select you can make nice pro ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478070&aid=3435408&group_…

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nightly builds broken
by katja 08 Nov '11

08 Nov '11

Hello, Yesterday I've committed code to creb and smlib. I have checked that all code compiled, even tested every class's functionality before committing. Even so, all nightly builds are apparently broken due to my commit. I'll now try to find out what went wrong and repair it. Katja

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[ pure-data-Bugs-3434543 ] patch with subpatch containing GOP subpatches crashes Pd
by SourceForge.net 07 Nov '11

07 Nov '11

Bugs item #3434543, was opened at 2011-11-07 07:42 Message generated for change (Tracker Item Submitted) made by eighthave You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478070&aid=3434543&group_… Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: puredata Group: v0.43 Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 9 Private: No Submitted By: Hans-Christoph Steiner (eighthave) Assigned to: Miller Puckette (millerpuckette) Summary: patch with subpatch containing GOP subpatches crashes Pd Initial Comment: In the attached patch, this crashes Pd 0.43-1test5 on Mac OS X/10.6.8/Intel every time: - open the patch - open the [pd pokesdown2] subpatch - close the [pd pokesdown2] subpatch - close the patch Here's the backtrace: Thread 0 Crashed: Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread 0 pd 0x0003babc obj_ninlets + 42 (m_obj.c:540) 1 pd 0x00002b73 linetraverser_next + 77 (g_canvas.c:260) 2 pd 0x000039ef canvas_deletelinesforio + 52 (g_canvas.c:788) 3 pd 0x00006042 canvas_rminlet + 74 (g_graph.c:312) 4 pd 0x0001679c vinlet_free + 28 (g_io.c:87) 5 pd 0x00038d62 pd_free + 25 (m_pd.c:30) 6 pd 0x00005a9b glist_delete + 271 (g_graph.c:123) 7 pd 0x000044ec canvas_free + 100 (g_canvas.c:708) 8 pd 0x00038d62 pd_free + 25 (m_pd.c:30) 9 pd 0x00005a9b glist_delete + 271 (g_graph.c:123) 10 pd 0x000044ec canvas_free + 100 (g_canvas.c:708) 11 pd 0x00038d62 pd_free + 25 (m_pd.c:30) 12 pd 0x00005a9b glist_delete + 271 (g_graph.c:123) 13 pd 0x000044ec canvas_free + 100 (g_canvas.c:708) 14 pd 0x00038d62 pd_free + 25 (m_pd.c:30) 15 pd 0x00005a9b glist_delete + 271 (g_graph.c:123) 16 pd 0x00008278 graph_delete + 42 (g_graph.c:991) 17 pd 0x00005b15 glist_delete + 393 (g_graph.c:111) 18 pd 0x000044ec canvas_free + 100 (g_canvas.c:708) 19 pd 0x00038d62 pd_free + 25 (m_pd.c:30) 20 pd 0x0003a374 pd_typedmess + 966 (m_class.c:748) 21 pd 0x0003a103 pd_typedmess + 341 (m_class.c:774) 22 pd 0x0003daaf binbuf_eval + 1075 (m_binbuf.c:722) 23 pd 0x00045d0c socketreceiver_read + 1016 (s_inter.c:551) 24 pd 0x00044d9f sys_domicrosleep + 385 (s_inter.c:191) 25 pd 0x00045825 sys_pollgui + 26 (s_inter.c:838) 26 pd 0x00042a63 m_mainloop + 381 (m_sched.c:488) 27 pd 0x00044ba0 sys_main + 1568 (s_main.c:302) 28 pd 0x00001d36 _start + 216 29 pd 0x00001c5d start + 41 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478070&aid=3434543&group_…

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