Pd-dev September 2010

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Access to PD SVN
by David Doukhan 07 Feb '11

07 Feb '11

Hi all, Some of you met me last year at the PDCON09, when I presented a Binaural Synthesis external for PD that I did. I'm a 27 years old ex-engineer, specialized in artificial intelligence and sound processing... I'm currently doing a Phd on expressive Text to speech synthesis in Paris. Since I received few emails of people asking me to provide them the binaural external I did, I'd like to put it on the PD SVN. In order to do it, I need to have write access to PD SVN. My sourceforge account correspond to rudk(a)users.sourceforge.net . Can someone add me to the list of the developpers? Regards, -- David Doukhan http://www.limsi.fr/Individu/doukhan/

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Re: [PD-dev] End of iPd hiatus
by Chris Niven 10 Nov '10

10 Nov '10

No worries at all Peter, I'm just glad to be a part of the learning process. This is actually great for me because I have a job interview tomorrow, and I would like to see if I can get some cool demos happening on my iPod Touch! Cheers, and again great work! On 2010-09-21, at 11:55 AM, Peter Brinkmann wrote: > > Hi Chris, > As you already know from the other thread, RjDj lived up to their promise and released the code we've been working on as open source. If you have a minute, I would appreciate it if you would give it a quick once-over and let me know what you think of it. > Best, > Peter > > PS: By the way, I'm sorry I didn't let you know earlier. I would have preferred to tell you about my work as soon as I found out that you're working on something similar, but I didn't want to jeopardize the opportunity to get my work at RjDj released as open source. We only reached an agreement on the manner and scope of this release at yesterday's breakfast meeting, about thirty minutes before I emailed you... > > > On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 8:55 AM, Chris Niven <cjniven(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Thanks Peter, > > I'm more or less relieved just to be learning these new tools as I'm applying for jobs. > Have a safe trip, and thanks for the heads-up! > > Chris > > On 2010-09-20, at 5:45 AM, Peter Brinkmann wrote: > >> >> Chris, >> Off-list reply since the info in here is not quite official yet. I'm spending the week in Austria with the RjDj folks, and I believe I've more or less persuaded them to release the iPhone glue for libpd under the same BSD license as the rest of libpd. Right now I feel confident that this will actually happen. If it does, it'll be done in a day or two. My suggestion would be to hold off until I post the code I'm writing with RjDj, and then you join the project and we move forward together. Either way, I'll have news very soon. >> Best, >> Peter >> >> >> On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 12:54 AM, Chris Niven <cjniven(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> Alright, so so far I've created a new XCode project and included 4 files from Bryan's pdlib. >> >> I've pushed it to my repository (http://gitorious.org/~virusys/pdlib/virusyss-pd-for-android). >> It doesn't build yet because I'm dealing with an annoying error: >> >> /Users/niv/code/virusyss-pd-for-android/PdCore/PdLib/../jni/src/s_file.c:234: error: storage size of 'statbuf' isn't known >> >> I know that this is a commonly dealt with issue, but I think someone else would be able to see it more easily than me >> at this point. >> >> If not, I'll take a look at this again tomorrow. >> >> Cheers, >> Chris >> >> On 2010-09-13, at 10:28 PM, Chris Niven wrote: >> >>> Ahhh, so basically what you said in your first response. >>> >>> Sorry man, things get a little confusing with all of these projects that are named the same thing :) >>> >>> On 2010-09-13, at 10:18 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> I haven't used that one, but it is apparently used in an app, iJam, that's in the app store. So that project merged with http://gitorious.org/pdlib would be quite useful. >>>> >>>> .hc >>>> >>>> On Sep 13, 2010, at 8:12 PM, Chris Niven wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hello again, >>>>> >>>>> So correct me if I'm mistaken, but the version of pdlib that I downloaded >>>>> (from Bryan Sum's github at http://github.com/bryansum/pdlib) includes a PdController.m >>>>> class, would this be what we're looking for? >>>>> >>>>> It's been a headache (literally and figuratively — still fighting off this wicked bad fever) >>>>> trying to get it to build since neither of my machines have the 3.1.2 version of the iOS >>>>> SDK. I could waste more time trying to get the correct configuration on my XCode project, >>>>> or I could just send you the file and see what you think: >>>>> >>>>> -c >>>>> >>>>> <PdController.m> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 2010-09-10, at 11:37 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> In terms of rjdj releasing their PdController code, I'll believe it when I see it. Based on rjdj's past actions, I don't think its worth waiting for them to do it if we want libpd on iPhone. >>>>>> >>>>>> .hc >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sep 10, 2010, at 9:24 AM, Peter Brinkmann wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Chris, >>>>>>> The new libpd is a C library that gently attaches itself to the existing code base, requiring only minimal changes, the most important of which have already been accepted into the official version of pd. On top of the C library there is some JNI glue for using libpd with Java (or Processing), and on top of the JNI glue there is a lot of Android code, including a tentative RjDj client for Android. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Here's the current state of affairs on the iPhone: I've been working with the RjDj crowd all week, and by now we've solidly integrated the new libpd into the setup at RjDj. The main glue between libpd and RjDj is a PdController class in Objective C that wraps libpd, takes care of the necessary thread synchronization, and translates between pd and the iOS audio API. I will make an attempt to persuade RjDj to release PdController with an open source license. The initial reaction has been promising, but the final decision will have to wait until the CEO returns from his vacation. I figure I'll have a definite answer in ten days or so. >>>>>>> Best, >>>>>>> Peter >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 6:20 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans(a)at.or.at> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hey Chris, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Welcome back! Actually, this is perfect timing. We are currently in the process of merging all of the various libpd efforts, like iPd, iJam/pdlib, rjdj, ofxPd, and Pd/Android. It would be super useful to have an iPhone version of iPd/iJam/pdlib that is based on the libpd that we are now working on. You can get that source code here: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://gitorious.org/pdlib/pd-for-android >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Basically, you are going to want everything in PdCore/jni/src. Mostly that's the sources from Pd 0.43 with the extra libpd stuff thrown in. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> .hc >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sep 9, 2010, at 3:12 PM, Chris Niven wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sorry for the double post — it seems that pdlib has already done it, like Hans mentioned >>>>>>> a while ago. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> That's alright, I'm curious to see what it can do! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -c >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 2010-09-09, at 2:49 PM, Chris Niven wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hey everyone! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> So summer is over and I finally have some more time to spend on this project. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have been briefly skimming e-mails, and there seems to be a lot going on on the >>>>>>> Android side, but not much word for iOS (except for of course with RJDJ!). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Is there anything I should know before I get back into it? For example, if someone >>>>>>> already finished this without me, etc? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Chris Niven >>>>>>> B.Mus., Music Technology >>>>>>> 514.591.9487 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Chris Niven >>>>>>> B.Mus., Music Technology >>>>>>> 514.591.9487 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Pd-dev mailing list >>>>>>> Pd-dev(a)iem.at >>>>>>> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-dev >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "It is convenient to imagine a power beyond us because that means we don't have to examine our own lives.", from "The Idols of Environmentalism", by Curtis White >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Pd-dev mailing list >>>>>>> Pd-dev(a)iem.at >>>>>>> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-dev >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> >>>>>> All information should be free. - the hacker ethic >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Chris Niven >>>>> B.Mus., Music Technology >>>>> 514.591.9487 >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> >>>> Access to computers should be unlimited and total. - the hacker ethic >>>> >>>> >>> >>> Chris Niven >>> B.Mus., Music Technology >>> 514.591.9487 >>> >> >> Chris Niven >> B.Mus., Music Technology >> 514.591.9487 >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pd-dev mailing list >> Pd-dev(a)iem.at >> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-dev >> >> > > Chris Niven B.Mus., Music Technology 514.591.9487

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FYI: lots of pd packages for Debian
by Hans-Christoph Steiner 03 Oct '10

03 Oct '10

FYI: I'm in the process of getting all my pd packages into Debian. If you are interested, you can follow the progress by checking out all of the packages that start with "pd-" on this page: http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/being_packaged Or try them in Ubuntu here: https://launchpad.net/~eighthave/+archive/libdirs/+packages Next, I'm uploading them to mentors.debian.net so people can try them there. .hc

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vinylcontrol~
by Caucasian Caucasian 03 Oct '10

03 Oct '10

Hallo, I'd like to test [vinylcontrol~] from http://karhumusic.sesser.at/vinylcontrol/vinylcontrol.html on Windows XP, but unfortunately I'm not able to compile external by myself (missing knowledge base ;-) ). Is there anybody who could help to make it work please?. Thanks a lot ales ---------------- code.google.com/p/visualtracker

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[ pure-data-Patches-2419952 ] Add 'get' method to toggle
by SourceForge.net 30 Sep '10

30 Sep '10

Patches item #2419952, was opened at 2008-12-12 08:42 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by nobody You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478072&aid=2419952&group_… Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: puredata Group: feature Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Private: No Submitted By: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Assigned to: Miller Puckette (millerpuckette) Summary: Add 'get' method to toggle Initial Comment: The attached patch provides a 'get' method for the toggle object. This allows the current state of the toggle to be retrieved via it's outlet. Patch against g_toggle.c (revision 10450). ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Date: 2010-09-30 19:06 Message: which other uses of "get" ? There are lots of externals that use the name 'get' to get the value of attributes, which are then sent through the rightmost outlet, usually. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Miller Puckette (millerpuckette) Date: 2010-08-03 03:43 Message: I don't think this is necessary, and the "get" name is confusing (doesn't match up with other uses of the word 'get'. Maybe it would be better to give ALL guis plus "f" and "s" objects a method to "send" their values to a specified symbol? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478072&aid=2419952&group_…

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Building pd-extended
by Edgar Berdahl 30 Sep '10

30 Sep '10

Hi, Does anyone have any idea why I might be running into this when trying to compile pd-extended on armel with ubuntu? ubuntu@Satellite:/usr/src/pd/packages/linux_make$ sudo make install prefix=/usr [... LOTS OF STUFF CUT OUT HERE BECAUSE IT WAS NORMAL ...] install -m644 helpbrowser.tcl /usr/src/Pd-0.42.5- extended/packages/linux_make/build//usr/lib/pd-extended/bin/helpbrowser.tcl install -d /usr/src/Pd-0.42.5-extended/packages/linux_make/build//usr/bin install -m755 ../bin/pdextended /usr/src/Pd-0.42.5- extended/packages/linux_make/build//usr/bin/pdextended ln -s /usr/bin/pdextended /usr/src/Pd-0.42.5-extended/packages/linux_make/build//usr/lib/pd- extended/pd ln: creating symbolic link `/usr/src/Pd-0.42.5-extended/packages/linux_make/build//usr/lib/pd- extended/pd': File exists make[2]: *** [install] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/Pd-0.42.5-extended/pd/src' make[1]: *** [pd_install] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/Pd-0.42.5-extended/packages' make: *** [install] Error 2 ubuntu@Satellite:/usr/src/pd/packages$ uname -a Linux beagleboard 2.6.32.11-l13 #1 PREEMPT Tue Apr 13 04:25:20 UTC 2010 armv7l GNU/Linux I don't really understand why it is trying to create the links like this. Should I be setting my base source code directory "pd" elsewhere? Thanks, Edgar

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where can i get checksums for tarballs
by Felix Pfeifer 30 Sep '10

30 Sep '10

Hi all, i had some problems compiling Pd-extended-0.42.5 which was due to a broken tarball on one of the mirrors. (Downloaded it twice and got the same md5sum each time) So is there a possibility to get any type of checksum to avoid such errors? greets felix

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[ pure-data-Bugs-3078258 ] several makefiles have wrong include path for pd
by SourceForge.net 29 Sep '10

29 Sep '10

Bugs item #3078258, was opened at 2010-09-29 17:19 Message generated for change (Tracker Item Submitted) made by mrpeach You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478070&aid=3078258&group_… Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: pd-extended Group: None Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 7 Private: No Submitted By: Martin Peach (mrpeach) Assigned to: Hans-Christoph Steiner (eighthave) Summary: several makefiles have wrong include path for pd Initial Comment: When using trunk/externals/Makefile to compile all the externals. In externals, the Makefiles in several directories use '$(PD_INCLUDE)/pd' as the path to pd source, which ends up as ..pd/src/pd so the build fails. Maybe PD_INCLUDE is set somewhere else to something that works, but I can't find it. Simply using $(PD_INCLUDE) in those makefiles works fine for me. These are the suspects: ~/pd_from_svn/trunk/externals$ grep -rn '(PD_INCLUDE)/pd' */Makefile ext13/Makefile:40:CFLAGS = -DPD -I"$(PD_INCLUDE)/pd" -Wall -W -g hcs/Makefile:38:CFLAGS = -DPD -I"$(PD_INCLUDE)/pd" -Wall -W -g maxlib/Makefile:34:CFLAGS = -DPD -I"$(PD_INCLUDE)/pd" -Wall -W -g moonlib/Makefile:39:CFLAGS = -DPD -I"$(PD_INCLUDE)/pd" -Wall -W -g pddp/Makefile:35:CFLAGS = -DPD -I"$(PD_INCLUDE)/pd" -Wall -W -g pdogg/Makefile:35:CFLAGS = -DPD -I"$(PD_INCLUDE)/pd" -Wall -W -g tkwidgets/Makefile:34:CFLAGS = -DPD -I"$(PD_INCLUDE)/pd" -Wall -W -g ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478070&aid=3078258&group_…

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[ pure-data-Patches-3050371 ] [bugfix] print version number
by SourceForge.net 29 Sep '10

29 Sep '10

Patches item #3050371, was opened at 2010-08-21 16:31 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by sf-robot You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478072&aid=3050371&group_… Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: puredata Group: bugfix >Status: Closed Resolution: Accepted Priority: 5 Private: No Submitted By: IOhannes m zmlnig (zmoelnig) Assigned to: Miller Puckette (millerpuckette) Summary: [bugfix] print version number Initial Comment: in 0.43.test2, the veresion number is not printed correctly when running "pd -version". rather than the version number, it prints "(null)", since the version string is uninitialized (and luckily set to NULL) the attached patch fixes this. (it's a git patch, so apply with "gem am 0001-provide-a-version-string.patch") ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >Comment By: SourceForge Robot (sf-robot) Date: 2010-09-29 19:33 Message: This Tracker item was closed automatically by the system. It was previously set to a Pending status, and the original submitter did not respond within 14 days (the time period specified by the administrator of this Tracker). ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478072&aid=3050371&group_…

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[ pure-data-Patches-3048804 ] Compile audio dummy across platforms
by SourceForge.net 29 Sep '10

29 Sep '10

Patches item #3048804, was opened at 2010-08-19 17:30 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by sf-robot You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478072&aid=3048804&group_… Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: puredata Group: bugfix >Status: Closed Resolution: Accepted Priority: 8 Private: No Submitted By: Peter Brinkmann (pbrinkmann) Assigned to: Miller Puckette (millerpuckette) Summary: Compile audio dummy across platforms Initial Comment: Resolves conflicts between USEAPI_DUMMY and other API settings when compiling libpd (http://gitorious.org/pdlib) for iPhone and other platforms. The patch only has an effect if USEAPI_DUMMY is defined. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >Comment By: SourceForge Robot (sf-robot) Date: 2010-09-29 19:33 Message: This Tracker item was closed automatically by the system. It was previously set to a Pending status, and the original submitter did not respond within 14 days (the time period specified by the administrator of this Tracker). ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Hans-Christoph Steiner (eighthave) Date: 2010-09-13 01:07 Message: git commit 52ebfdc7ab2353368e15895928330f00cb44bbc1 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Hans-Christoph Steiner (eighthave) Date: 2010-08-19 17:46 Message: This is a simple change to the USEAPI_DUMMY stuff to allow it to work on any platform, which is needed when embedding libpd into things like Android, iPhone, Java, Python, etc. Basically, when you use USEAPI_DUMMY, it usurps setting the default over all other USEAPI_* statements. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478072&aid=3048804&group_…

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