Pd-dev May 2010

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[ pure-data-Bugs-2997874 ] [line] ignores slew time after a stop message
by SourceForge.net 06 May '10

06 May '10

Bugs item #2997874, was opened at 2010-05-06 22:37 Message generated for change (Tracker Item Submitted) made by sistisette You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478070&aid=2997874&group_… Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: puredata Group: v0.42 Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Private: No Submitted By: Matteo Sisti Sette (sistisette) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: [line] ignores slew time after a stop message Initial Comment: If you send a [stop( message to a [line] object (no matter whether it was running or already stopped), if the next message it receives is a pair, it will ignore the second element (the slew time) and jump to the target value immediately. This doesn't happen 100% of the time, there must be some more condition to it but I can't find the exact pattern. See attached patch ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478070&aid=2997874&group_…

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[ pure-data-Bugs-2973493 ] folder_list doesn't handle relative paths correctly on winxp
by SourceForge.net 06 May '10

06 May '10

Bugs item #2973493, was opened at 2010-03-19 17:47 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by eighthave You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478070&aid=2973493&group_… Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: externals Group: None Status: Closed >Resolution: Fixed Priority: 5 Private: No Submitted By: Jonathan Wilkes (jancsika1) Assigned to: Hans-Christoph Steiner (eighthave) Summary: folder_list doesn't handle relative paths correctly on winxp Initial Comment: If I have a patch in a folder on the desktop, [folder_list] will default to that folder. But if I then try to use relative paths like [symbol ../*( , my results will have the right path, but it will list the files in the parent of pd/bin. In other words, relative paths default to the path where pd was started from, but the returned files have the path relative to the patch's folder prepended to them. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >Comment By: Hans-Christoph Steiner (eighthave) Date: 2010-05-05 23:19 Message: I confirmed it on Windows XP. Plus I think I actually fixed it, and a bug related to the Windows backslash bashing. Here's the commits: http://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/pure-data?view=rev&revision=134… http://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/pure-data?view=rev&revision=134… ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: SourceForge Robot (sf-robot) Date: 2010-04-27 22:20 Message: This Tracker item was closed automatically by the system. It was previously set to a Pending status, and the original submitter did not respond within 14 days (the time period specified by the administrator of this Tracker). ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Hans-Christoph Steiner (eighthave) Date: 2010-04-12 17:52 Message: I can't reproduce this using Pd version 0.42.5-extended-20100409 on Mac OS X 10.5.8/Intel and Ubuntu/Karmic/lpia. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478070&aid=2973493&group_…

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[ pure-data-Bugs-2990309 ] dumpOSC fails to create if no arguments
by SourceForge.net 06 May '10

06 May '10

Bugs item #2990309, was opened at 2010-04-21 08:34 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by sf-robot You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478070&aid=2990309&group_… Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: externals Group: None >Status: Closed Resolution: Fixed Priority: 5 Private: No Submitted By: Matteo Sisti Sette (sistisette) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: dumpOSC fails to create if no arguments Initial Comment: If you try to create a [dumpOSC] without supplying a creation argument (the port number I guess, btw there's no help patch), it fails to create but it gives no specific error message. Just as if the dll wasn't found. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >Comment By: SourceForge Robot (sf-robot) Date: 2010-05-06 02:20 Message: This Tracker item was closed automatically by the system. It was previously set to a Pending status, and the original submitter did not respond within 14 days (the time period specified by the administrator of this Tracker). ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: IOhannes m zmlnig (zmoelnig) Date: 2010-04-21 11:49 Message: sure i only looked at the code and there it says that it will print out the error before failing to create. at this point i hadn't even tried to create an OSCx object. then, i added an "OSCx is deprecated" message to the three OSCx objects (which get's printed whenever one of these objects is created), which i think is enough hint for the user (rather than creating help-patches). while doing so, i i also created [dumpOSC] (without args) and can confirm that it also prints out the warning about empty arguments (i also added a hint that a "port number" is missing) i think with my additions (deprecation-message and hint that it is the port-number that's missing) we can close this issue ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Matteo Sisti Sette (sistisette) Date: 2010-04-21 11:39 Message: IOhannes, OK I won't use dumpOSC, I didn't know it was deprecated. It would be fine to include some note in the help patches (which don't exist) so that a user can know the objects are deprecated. Regarding this: > furthermore, [dumpOSC]will print out an error to the console if you don't > specify an argument ("[dumpOSC] needs at least one argument") maybe your version does; I use the Pd Extended precompiled binaries for Windows from puredata.info, and I can assure you that the only error message that appears on the consol is: dumpOSC: couldn't create ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: IOhannes m zmlnig (zmoelnig) Date: 2010-04-21 08:48 Message: furthermore, [dumpOSC]will print out an error to the console if you don't specify an argument ("[dumpOSC] needs at least one argument") the message could be more meaningful (i changed that now), but it still has tto be read.... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: IOhannes m zmlnig (zmoelnig) Date: 2010-04-21 08:41 Message: i will not get tired of that: do not use [dumpOSC] (and other friends from OSCx), as they are buggy, outdated, unmaintained and superceded by the better-designed, up-to-date, actively maintained objects from mrpeach. the objects are mainly there for legacy reasons. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478070&aid=2990309&group_…

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Monday 10th May: Endphase 17, lecture and performance presentation
by João Pais 06 May '10

06 May '10

Hello, there will be two events related to the laptop trio Endphase in next Monday at NK http://www.nkprojekt.de/, Elsenstr. 52/, 2.Hinterhaus Etage 2, 12059 Berlin NeukÃ¶lln We hope to see you there. - 14h-17h - Endphase project lecture Endphase (Alberto C. Bernal and JoÃ£o Pais) and Servando Barreiro as guest. http://www.endphase.net/ http://minitronics.net/ Conceptual electroacoustic improvisation: theory, aesthetics and performance tools This presentation addresses central technical and aesthetic aspects related to the programming and performance of live electronic music. Its contents reflect the experiences made by the Endphase project's years of activity, and shares this information with a public as specialized as necessary. Concrete and detailed examples will be given about Endphase 17, to be presented on the 14th of May at the Lange Nacht der elektronischen Musik of the Mehrklang Festival, Freiburg. The presentation covers theme groups developed out of various experiences with the Endphase Project: - Sound synthesis and treatment of sources - Patch control and work with sensors - Video design and interactivity with audio - Networking and conceptual strategies These topics reflect on the several and simultaneous approaches necessary to the preparation of a performance. Topics 1 and 2 discuss the technical and pragmatical issues related with the development of the necessary software and hardware. That includes the design of the synthesis and processing software, and how it is connected with the ideas behind the performance. If follows then with the work with data input (acoustic signals, tablets, midi faders, sensors, DIY instruments, ?) and their suitableness to process control, space control in real time, audio/video integration, ... The 3rd topic discusses the technical and aesthetical questions arising from the development of both video and audio layers. How to implement them technically, and possibilities on balancing both layers in order to get a cohese result. The 4th topic concerns with issues of aesthetic and theoretical planning, which will make clear some possible strategies in structuring the formal and conceptual dimensions of a performance ? including on how to connect the players through the OSC protocol in order to elaborate precise formal gestures. - 18h SHARP!-20h - Private concert and discussion: Endphase 17 Endphase (Alberto C. Bernal and JoÃ£o Pais) and Servando Barreiro as guest. http://www.endphase.net/ http://minitronics.net/ "Endphase 17" is a performance to be presented on the 14th of May at the Lange Nacht der elektronischen Musik of the Mehrklang Festival, Freiburg. This consists of one piece of ca. 40 minutes using both live audio and video. Endphase 17 was conceived around the motto of the Mehrklang Festival 2010, "Das Eigene und das Fremde". There will be a short talk about the project, followed by the performance. After the performance we would like to invite everyone to give their opinion about the presented work, and to start a (hopefully fruitful) discussion about any themes related to it. -- Friedenstr. 58 10249 Berlin (Deutschland) Tel +49 30 42020091 | Mob +49 162 6843570 Studio +49 30 69509190 jmmmpais(a)googlemail.com | skype: jmmmpjmmmp

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[ pure-data-Bugs-2996887 ] expr and dollarsign variable tomfoolery
by SourceForge.net 05 May '10

05 May '10

Bugs item #2996887, was opened at 2010-05-04 22:37 Message generated for change (Tracker Item Submitted) made by jancsika1 You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478070&aid=2996887&group_… Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: None Group: None Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Private: No Submitted By: Jonathan Wilkes (jancsika1) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: expr and dollarsign variable tomfoolery Initial Comment: If a dollarsign variable like $1 exists in an abstraction (and has a float value assigned) it can be used with impugnity, such as [expr int($1)]. However, if $1 does not exist, as in a newly created patch with <ctrl-n>, [expr int($1)] will not create. As a workaround, one must appease the expr parser by offering up sacrificial spaces to pad the $1 like so: [expr int( $1 )] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478070&aid=2996887&group_…

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Upcoming ICMC L2Ork workshop at NYC Resistor
by Ivica Ico Bukvic 02 May '10

02 May '10

Apologies for cross-posting... Dear Colleagues and fellow computer music enthusiasts, On May 30th 1pm-7pm EST @ NYC Resistor L2Ork will hold a one-day workshop on building Linux-based laptop orchestra and unique opportunities such an ensemble brings about. Synopsis: L2Ork is an ultra-affordable tool for handling administrative logistics associated with starting a new Linux-based laptop orchestra using exclusively free software and cost-efficient hardware. The workshop will cover general issues in regards to starting a Linux-based laptop orchestra, as well as provide an opportunity for the workshop participants to engage in writing for L2Ork. The workshop will also cover L2Ork's latest initiative to bridge STEM (Science, Technology, Engineering and Math) and Arts in K-12 education and funding opportunities such a project may bring about. Participants will learn about: * administrative and logistical prerequisites for starting a Linux-based laptop orchestra * design considerations in designing and building adequate infrastructure (speakers, soundcard, system configuration and optimization) * streamlining Linux platform * optimizing Pure-Data software for GUI-based networked performances * ensuing creative opportunities of a networked laptop orchestra * design strategies and standards developed for writing pieces for the L2Ork ensemble * education-based opportunities attained through L2Ork's ultra-affordable infrastructure * logistical considerations in building GUIs for a diverse group of performers with widely varying amount of musical training and experience * wiimote strategies for an ensemble-oriented performance * strategies for incorporating soloists into the L2Ork ensemble Participants will be given access to: * all L2Ork's resources, including custom code and Pure-Data abstractions designed specifically for the orchestra and its input devices * customized Pure-Data software platform with performance, editor, and GUI enhancements * access to software repository containing optimized Linux kernel and supporting software as well as turnkey Linux setup containing an entire hard-drive image of the L2Ork Linux system * detailed list of parts necessary to build L2Ork-compatible ~$250 hemispherical speakers and a ~$750/seat turnkey setup including a laptop, external soundcard, wiimote & nunchuk, headset, cables and accessories, and a custom hemispherical speaker. All participants will be also given an opportunity to interact with L2Ork members (performers and researchers alike) as well as submit their own works for programming consideration by the L2Ork ensemble. For a more detailed overview and registration info please visit: http://icmc-workshop-l2ork.eventbrite.com/ NB: please note that the times listed on the aforesaid site are in Pacific Time. For additional info on L2Ork, please visit http://l2ork.music.vt.edu. Should you happen to have any questions, suggestions or concerns, please do not hesitate to contact me. Ivica Ico Bukvic, D.M.A. Composition, Music Technology Director, DISIS Interactive Sound & Intermedia Studio Director, L2Ork Linux Laptop Orchestra Assistant Co-Director, CCTAD CHCI, CS, and Art (by courtesy) Virginia Tech Dept. of Music - 0240 Blacksburg, VA 24061 (540) 231-6139 (540) 231-5034 (fax) ico(a)vt.edu http://www.music.vt.edu/faculty/bukvic/

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[ pure-data-Bugs-2995427 ] context menu offset
by SourceForge.net 02 May '10

02 May '10

Bugs item #2995427, was opened at 2010-05-02 11:11 Message generated for change (Tracker Item Submitted) made by denis97531 You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478070&aid=2995427&group_… Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: puredata Group: None Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Private: No Submitted By: D.P. (denis97531) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: context menu offset Initial Comment: Hello when you move objects outside the visible window, on the upper side or the left side (for example when you move a group of things to make room fo new objects), the display is re-adapted so that the object being too far up or left are displayed again. This is fine but in this situation, the context menu (with 'properties', 'open', 'help') gets an offset, so when you click on an object to open it or get help, the context menu is displayed far off the object, up or left, depending how you moved the objects before. It is possible to repair this offset by moving the whole patch down or right. But would it be possible to simply avoid this offset in any case? Thanks to all for this great software. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478070&aid=2995427&group_…

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