Pd-dev October 2010

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Access to PD SVN
by David Doukhan 07 Feb '11

07 Feb '11

Hi all, Some of you met me last year at the PDCON09, when I presented a Binaural Synthesis external for PD that I did. I'm a 27 years old ex-engineer, specialized in artificial intelligence and sound processing... I'm currently doing a Phd on expressive Text to speech synthesis in Paris. Since I received few emails of people asking me to provide them the binaural external I did, I'd like to put it on the PD SVN. In order to do it, I need to have write access to PD SVN. My sourceforge account correspond to rudk(a)users.sourceforge.net . Can someone add me to the list of the developpers? Regards, -- David Doukhan http://www.limsi.fr/Individu/doukhan/

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Re: [PD-dev] End of iPd hiatus
by Chris Niven 10 Nov '10

10 Nov '10

No worries at all Peter, I'm just glad to be a part of the learning process. This is actually great for me because I have a job interview tomorrow, and I would like to see if I can get some cool demos happening on my iPod Touch! Cheers, and again great work! On 2010-09-21, at 11:55 AM, Peter Brinkmann wrote: > > Hi Chris, > As you already know from the other thread, RjDj lived up to their promise and released the code we've been working on as open source. If you have a minute, I would appreciate it if you would give it a quick once-over and let me know what you think of it. > Best, > Peter > > PS: By the way, I'm sorry I didn't let you know earlier. I would have preferred to tell you about my work as soon as I found out that you're working on something similar, but I didn't want to jeopardize the opportunity to get my work at RjDj released as open source. We only reached an agreement on the manner and scope of this release at yesterday's breakfast meeting, about thirty minutes before I emailed you... > > > On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 8:55 AM, Chris Niven <cjniven(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Thanks Peter, > > I'm more or less relieved just to be learning these new tools as I'm applying for jobs. > Have a safe trip, and thanks for the heads-up! > > Chris > > On 2010-09-20, at 5:45 AM, Peter Brinkmann wrote: > >> >> Chris, >> Off-list reply since the info in here is not quite official yet. I'm spending the week in Austria with the RjDj folks, and I believe I've more or less persuaded them to release the iPhone glue for libpd under the same BSD license as the rest of libpd. Right now I feel confident that this will actually happen. If it does, it'll be done in a day or two. My suggestion would be to hold off until I post the code I'm writing with RjDj, and then you join the project and we move forward together. Either way, I'll have news very soon. >> Best, >> Peter >> >> >> On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 12:54 AM, Chris Niven <cjniven(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> Alright, so so far I've created a new XCode project and included 4 files from Bryan's pdlib. >> >> I've pushed it to my repository (http://gitorious.org/~virusys/pdlib/virusyss-pd-for-android). >> It doesn't build yet because I'm dealing with an annoying error: >> >> /Users/niv/code/virusyss-pd-for-android/PdCore/PdLib/../jni/src/s_file.c:234: error: storage size of 'statbuf' isn't known >> >> I know that this is a commonly dealt with issue, but I think someone else would be able to see it more easily than me >> at this point. >> >> If not, I'll take a look at this again tomorrow. >> >> Cheers, >> Chris >> >> On 2010-09-13, at 10:28 PM, Chris Niven wrote: >> >>> Ahhh, so basically what you said in your first response. >>> >>> Sorry man, things get a little confusing with all of these projects that are named the same thing :) >>> >>> On 2010-09-13, at 10:18 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> I haven't used that one, but it is apparently used in an app, iJam, that's in the app store. So that project merged with http://gitorious.org/pdlib would be quite useful. >>>> >>>> .hc >>>> >>>> On Sep 13, 2010, at 8:12 PM, Chris Niven wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hello again, >>>>> >>>>> So correct me if I'm mistaken, but the version of pdlib that I downloaded >>>>> (from Bryan Sum's github at http://github.com/bryansum/pdlib) includes a PdController.m >>>>> class, would this be what we're looking for? >>>>> >>>>> It's been a headache (literally and figuratively — still fighting off this wicked bad fever) >>>>> trying to get it to build since neither of my machines have the 3.1.2 version of the iOS >>>>> SDK. I could waste more time trying to get the correct configuration on my XCode project, >>>>> or I could just send you the file and see what you think: >>>>> >>>>> -c >>>>> >>>>> <PdController.m> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 2010-09-10, at 11:37 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> In terms of rjdj releasing their PdController code, I'll believe it when I see it. Based on rjdj's past actions, I don't think its worth waiting for them to do it if we want libpd on iPhone. >>>>>> >>>>>> .hc >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sep 10, 2010, at 9:24 AM, Peter Brinkmann wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Chris, >>>>>>> The new libpd is a C library that gently attaches itself to the existing code base, requiring only minimal changes, the most important of which have already been accepted into the official version of pd. On top of the C library there is some JNI glue for using libpd with Java (or Processing), and on top of the JNI glue there is a lot of Android code, including a tentative RjDj client for Android. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Here's the current state of affairs on the iPhone: I've been working with the RjDj crowd all week, and by now we've solidly integrated the new libpd into the setup at RjDj. The main glue between libpd and RjDj is a PdController class in Objective C that wraps libpd, takes care of the necessary thread synchronization, and translates between pd and the iOS audio API. I will make an attempt to persuade RjDj to release PdController with an open source license. The initial reaction has been promising, but the final decision will have to wait until the CEO returns from his vacation. I figure I'll have a definite answer in ten days or so. >>>>>>> Best, >>>>>>> Peter >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 6:20 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans(a)at.or.at> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hey Chris, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Welcome back! Actually, this is perfect timing. We are currently in the process of merging all of the various libpd efforts, like iPd, iJam/pdlib, rjdj, ofxPd, and Pd/Android. It would be super useful to have an iPhone version of iPd/iJam/pdlib that is based on the libpd that we are now working on. You can get that source code here: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://gitorious.org/pdlib/pd-for-android >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Basically, you are going to want everything in PdCore/jni/src. Mostly that's the sources from Pd 0.43 with the extra libpd stuff thrown in. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> .hc >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sep 9, 2010, at 3:12 PM, Chris Niven wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sorry for the double post — it seems that pdlib has already done it, like Hans mentioned >>>>>>> a while ago. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> That's alright, I'm curious to see what it can do! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -c >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 2010-09-09, at 2:49 PM, Chris Niven wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hey everyone! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> So summer is over and I finally have some more time to spend on this project. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have been briefly skimming e-mails, and there seems to be a lot going on on the >>>>>>> Android side, but not much word for iOS (except for of course with RJDJ!). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Is there anything I should know before I get back into it? For example, if someone >>>>>>> already finished this without me, etc? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Chris Niven >>>>>>> B.Mus., Music Technology >>>>>>> 514.591.9487 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Chris Niven >>>>>>> B.Mus., Music Technology >>>>>>> 514.591.9487 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Pd-dev mailing list >>>>>>> Pd-dev(a)iem.at >>>>>>> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-dev >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "It is convenient to imagine a power beyond us because that means we don't have to examine our own lives.", from "The Idols of Environmentalism", by Curtis White >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Pd-dev mailing list >>>>>>> Pd-dev(a)iem.at >>>>>>> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-dev >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> >>>>>> All information should be free. - the hacker ethic >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Chris Niven >>>>> B.Mus., Music Technology >>>>> 514.591.9487 >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> >>>> Access to computers should be unlimited and total. - the hacker ethic >>>> >>>> >>> >>> Chris Niven >>> B.Mus., Music Technology >>> 514.591.9487 >>> >> >> Chris Niven >> B.Mus., Music Technology >> 514.591.9487 >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pd-dev mailing list >> Pd-dev(a)iem.at >> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-dev >> >> > > Chris Niven B.Mus., Music Technology 514.591.9487

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pdlib: unknown audio API specified
by Chris Niven 02 Nov '10

02 Nov '10

Hi Peter and list — I've been trying to get a template Xcode project working that incorporates your objective-c glue for Pd, but I haven't been successful yet. At this point I'm able to use the PdBase class for control-flow patches, but I can't get audio working. For some reason, it doesn't register audio units as the chosen audio API, and it spits out the "unknown audio API specified" error message. I think it's something to do with either my Xcode project's build settings or some issue with the defines. Is there a way to fix this? I'm going to look at it a little more, but I figured I would post on the list to see if there's something I'm doing wrong. thanks, Chris Niven B.Mus., Music Technology 514.591.9487

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[ pure-data-Feature Requests-3100322 ] little more overview "on demand"...
by SourceForge.net 01 Nov '10

01 Nov '10

Feature Requests item #3100322, was opened at 2010-10-31 23:51 Message generated for change (Tracker Item Submitted) made by nobody You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478073&aid=3100322&group_… Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: None Group: None Status: Open Priority: 5 Private: No Submitted By: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: little more overview "on demand"... Initial Comment: Since the order of connections made and objects placed isn't shown in the patch, but is very important sometimes, especially if one works with older patches, which one doesn't have on the mind anymore.. ...is it possible to add a number to each connection and object to "count" the order of creation, that can be shown on demand?!? So practically: If I select an object with the mouse, each outgoing connection is marked with a number corresponding to the order one created them. This could be done seperately for audio-signals and data-signals. And for object-numbers it comes in handy, if one could activate/deactivate an extra graphics-layer containing the numbers, and make them place next to the right object. Thanks for any help! Bye ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478073&aid=3100322&group_…

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[ pure-data-Bugs-3100302 ] vers. 0.42.5-ext.
by SourceForge.net 01 Nov '10

01 Nov '10

Bugs item #3100302, was opened at 2010-10-31 23:33 Message generated for change (Tracker Item Submitted) made by nobody You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478070&aid=3100302&group_… Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: pd-extended Group: None Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Private: No Submitted By: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Assigned to: Hans-Christoph Steiner (eighthave) Summary: vers. 0.42.5-ext. Initial Comment: OS: windows [>~]/ [<~].. produces graphical problems if one tries to set an initial value, e.g. [>~ 0.5] . ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478070&aid=3100302&group_…

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[ pure-data-Bugs-3098111 ] ⌘+W broken on patches that open with subpatch windows
by SourceForge.net 29 Oct '10

29 Oct '10

Bugs item #3098111, was opened at 2010-10-29 10:44 Message generated for change (Tracker Item Submitted) made by You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478070&aid=3098111&group_… Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: puredata Group: v0.43 Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Private: No Submitted By: Jwif () Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: ⌘+W broken on patches that open with subpatch windows Initial Comment: If I load a patch that is saved with a subpatch window open then the ⌘+W shortcut doesn't close that window. However, if I then open another subpatch (even the same subpatch works) from the parent window and open that, using the ⌘+W shortcut works and also allows me to shut the first window opened on startup. Pd version 0.43-0test3 Macbook Pro running OS X 10.6.4/Intel built-in sound ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478070&aid=3098111&group_…

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Help building/configuring pd-extended
by Enrique Vetere 28 Oct '10

28 Oct '10

Hello, I need to patch something in PD related to midi (I sent another mail about). I'm on Linux. now I downloaded pd-extended from sourceforge as per: http://puredata.info/docs/developer/GettingPdSource so I enter the pd-extended directory and did ./autogen.sh ./configure make this causes to have an executable src/pd which runs ok but does not have any extension loaded (in particular hid) what am I doing wrong?

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midiout
by Enrique Vetere 28 Oct '10

28 Oct '10

Hi. I've been trying to use midiout but it does not work when sending sysex because it sends 1 byte at a time. Chatting with matju on #irc where he showed me the source code, I think the problem is that midiout uses ultimately sys_alsa_putmidibyte to send snd_seq_ev_set_sysex(&ev,1,&data) one byte at a time So we thought about writing an external that uses alsa-midi functions and he guided me the first steps. Now, the problem is that this external would need access to structure midi_handle, and variables alsa_midioutfd and alsa_nmidiout which are defined in s_midi_alsa.c (because creating and opening ALSA ports is handled there). The functions provided by s_midi are not good enough as I need to snd_seq_ev_set_sysex(&ev, data_array_size,data_array) So my question is: is it possible to write such external? or I need to patch the sources? Thanks!

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Re: [PD-dev] pdlib: unknown audio API specified
by Chris Niven 25 Oct '10

25 Oct '10

Hey Peter, That's awesome — thanks very much! On 2010-10-24, at 9:37 AM, Peter Brinkmann wrote: > > Hi Chris, > Quick update: Richard Lawler is about to donate his Xcode sample project to libpd. It's basically done, I'm just waiting for him to send me an updated version with BSD licensing. I'll let you know when it's available. > Peter > > > On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 8:10 PM, Chris Niven <cjniven(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Peter and list — > > I've been trying to get a template Xcode project working that incorporates your objective-c glue for Pd, but I haven't been successful yet. At this point I'm able to use the PdBase class for control-flow patches, but I can't get audio working. For some reason, it doesn't register audio units as the chosen audio API, and it spits out the "unknown audio API specified" error message. I think it's something to do with either my Xcode project's build settings or some issue with the defines. > > Is there a way to fix this? I'm going to look at it a little more, but I figured I would post on the list to see if there's something I'm doing wrong. > > thanks, > > Chris Niven > B.Mus., Music Technology > 514.591.9487 > > Chris Niven B.Mus., Music Technology 514.591.9487

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[ pure-data-Bugs-3094826 ] shell problem with 0.42.5 release
by SourceForge.net 25 Oct '10

25 Oct '10

Bugs item #3094826, was opened at 2010-10-25 13:03 Message generated for change (Tracker Item Submitted) made by nobody You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478070&aid=3094826&group_… Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: externals Group: None Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Private: No Submitted By: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: shell problem with 0.42.5 release Initial Comment: "shell" object doesn't work under 0.42.5 pd-extended release. nevertheless i can use it with pd-vanilla 0.42.1 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478070&aid=3094826&group_…

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