Pd-dev July 2009

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[ pure-data-Bugs-2818695 ] constant pulse in audio playback
by SourceForge.net 08 Jul '09

08 Jul '09

Bugs item #2818695, was opened at 2009-07-08 12:30 Message generated for change (Tracker Item Submitted) made by cursorx08 You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478070&aid=2818695&group_… Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: pd-extended Group: v0.41 Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Private: No Submitted By: cursorx (cursorx08) Assigned to: Hans-Christoph Steiner (eighthave) Summary: constant pulse in audio playback Initial Comment: I've upgraded to 0.41.4-extended. When I output audio a constant glich/pulse of about 2 per second, is heard. What can I do to get rid of this? Mac OSX 10.4.11. Thanks ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478070&aid=2818695&group_…

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[ pure-data-Bugs-2583821 ] pow~ creation arg doesn't work on Windows
by SourceForge.net 08 Jul '09

08 Jul '09

Bugs item #2583821, was opened at 2009-02-10 05:36 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by nobody You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478070&aid=2583821&group_… Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: puredata Group: v0.42 Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 7 Private: No Submitted By: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Assigned to: Miller Puckette (millerpuckette) Summary: pow~ creation arg doesn't work on Windows Initial Comment: providing a creation argument for pow~ doesn't work. pd-vanilla 0.42-4 on winxp -Jonathan #N canvas 412 274 450 300 12; #X floatatom 181 146 5 0 0 0 - - -; #X floatatom 271 144 5 0 0 0 - - -; #X obj 181 115 snapshot~; #X obj 271 115 snapshot~; #X obj 49 68 metro 100; #X obj 271 60 pow~; #X obj 335 12 sig~ 4; #X obj 49 12 loadbang; #X obj 181 60 pow~ 4; #X obj 180 12 sig~ 2; #X msg 6 111 \; pd dsp 1; #X connect 2 0 0 0; #X connect 3 0 1 0; #X connect 4 0 2 0; #X connect 4 0 3 0; #X connect 5 0 3 0; #X connect 6 0 5 1; #X connect 7 0 4 0; #X connect 7 0 10 0; #X connect 8 0 2 0; #X connect 9 0 8 0; #X connect 9 0 5 0; ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Date: 2009-07-08 15:00 Message: Notice that the argument is the exponent in the [pow~] object. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Date: 2009-07-08 14:45 Message: This bug does NOT happen in Pd-0.41.4-extended-rc4 on Windows XP Sp 3. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Date: 2009-02-25 21:53 Message: the same holds for [log~] and [exp~], (0.42-4 on winxp) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Hans-Christoph Steiner (eighthave) Date: 2009-02-25 00:06 Message: This bug does not happen for me on Pd-0.42-4 on Mac OS X 10.5.6/Intel. But I can confirm it happens on Windows XP with Pd0.42-4 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478070&aid=2583821&group_…

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[ pure-data-Bugs-2583821 ] pow~ creation arg doesn't work on Windows
by SourceForge.net 08 Jul '09

08 Jul '09

Bugs item #2583821, was opened at 2009-02-10 05:36 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by nobody You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478070&aid=2583821&group_… Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: puredata Group: v0.42 Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 7 Private: No Submitted By: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Assigned to: Miller Puckette (millerpuckette) Summary: pow~ creation arg doesn't work on Windows Initial Comment: providing a creation argument for pow~ doesn't work. pd-vanilla 0.42-4 on winxp -Jonathan #N canvas 412 274 450 300 12; #X floatatom 181 146 5 0 0 0 - - -; #X floatatom 271 144 5 0 0 0 - - -; #X obj 181 115 snapshot~; #X obj 271 115 snapshot~; #X obj 49 68 metro 100; #X obj 271 60 pow~; #X obj 335 12 sig~ 4; #X obj 49 12 loadbang; #X obj 181 60 pow~ 4; #X obj 180 12 sig~ 2; #X msg 6 111 \; pd dsp 1; #X connect 2 0 0 0; #X connect 3 0 1 0; #X connect 4 0 2 0; #X connect 4 0 3 0; #X connect 5 0 3 0; #X connect 6 0 5 1; #X connect 7 0 4 0; #X connect 7 0 10 0; #X connect 8 0 2 0; #X connect 9 0 8 0; #X connect 9 0 5 0; ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Date: 2009-07-08 14:45 Message: This bug does NOT happen in Pd-0.41.4-extended-rc4 on Windows XP Sp 3. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Date: 2009-02-25 21:53 Message: the same holds for [log~] and [exp~], (0.42-4 on winxp) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Hans-Christoph Steiner (eighthave) Date: 2009-02-25 00:06 Message: This bug does not happen for me on Pd-0.42-4 on Mac OS X 10.5.6/Intel. But I can confirm it happens on Windows XP with Pd0.42-4 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478070&aid=2583821&group_…

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[ pure-data-Patches-1964023 ] add Home and End key bindings to object/message boxes
by SourceForge.net 08 Jul '09

08 Jul '09

Patches item #1964023, was opened at 2008-05-14 18:58 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by nobody You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478072&aid=1964023&group_… Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: puredata Group: feature Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Private: No Submitted By: Hans-Christoph Steiner (eighthave) Assigned to: Miller Puckette (millerpuckette) Summary: add Home and End key bindings to object/message boxes Initial Comment: just like the title says, not much to it. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Date: 2009-07-08 14:33 Message: It looks like the cursor will move to beginning/end of line if Home/End is pressed but when you type the cursor is really in the old position. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478072&aid=1964023&group_…

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[ pure-data-Patches-2799414 ] Makefile generalized
by SourceForge.net 07 Jul '09

07 Jul '09

Patches item #2799414, was opened at 2009-06-01 11:34 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by sf-robot You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478072&aid=2799414&group_… Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: externals Group: bugfix >Status: Closed Resolution: Fixed Priority: 5 Private: No Submitted By: Winfried Ritsch (ritsch) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: Makefile generalized Initial Comment: Makefile for iem does not respect Include path PDSOURCE, or other possibility to name one, So I added PDSOURCE with default to /usr/local/src/pd/src as an ENVIRONMENT variable, this was needed for my project ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >Comment By: SourceForge Robot (sf-robot) Date: 2009-07-07 02:20 Message: This Tracker item was closed automatically by the system. It was previously set to a Pending status, and the original submitter did not respond within 14 days (the time period specified by the administrator of this Tracker). ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: IOhannes m zmlnig (zmoelnig) Date: 2009-06-22 17:10 Message: applied ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478072&aid=2799414&group_…

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Finished iemguts' [canvasselect] and a max-toolbox-like proof of concept
by Luke Iannini 02 Jul '09

02 Jul '09

Yo all, My usual caveat applies: that I'm as nearly unconscious as I always am when I'm releasing public works :) I had a flight today which gave me a chance to finish up [canvasselect] (by merging in some code from zexy's tabdump in my usual naive fashion to make it output index-lists rather than just post() the currently selected objects (thus, IO, you should probably double check my work :) )), and then put it to work starting to create some patching-assist functionality similar to max-toolbox. I'm pretty excited for what can come out of this! What I've got so far is the start of the [meta-abs] library, [meta-connect] - it works like: select one or more objects, press "[", select a new group of objects you'd like to connect the first group to, and press "]". [meta-connect] will magically connect them all (you can make some lovely line art selecting a big pile of [bng]s :) ). Not amazingly useful, yet, but the start o' something good : ). I sketched a mini-domain language for this sort of thing here: http://puredata.info/dev/GuiIdeas#object-numbering a long while ago. I'd love to hear some ideas on how such complex autopatching would work ideally, as I'll be implementing a suite of this type of thing over the next couple weeks. IOhannes, do you know if it's possible to get and set the coordinates of arbitrary objects simply by index, much like [canvasposition] can do now but including externals etc. where you can't place a [canvasposition] object? This would enable the final piece of maxtoolbox layout stuff, which was Pd's Tidy... function times 10000, and would let me do stuff like "connect the 4 horizontally-aligned selected objects above to the 4 selected objects below" or simply "connect these all top to bottom" with a single keycommand. Back soon with more... Best Luke

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[ pure-data-Bugs-2806856 ] Possible to connect the same in/outlets multiple times
by SourceForge.net 01 Jul '09

01 Jul '09

Bugs item #2806856, was opened at 2009-06-15 22:30 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by sf-robot You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478070&aid=2806856&group_… Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: puredata Group: None >Status: Closed Resolution: None Priority: 5 Private: No Submitted By: Johannes (jpburstrom) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: Possible to connect the same in/outlets multiple times Initial Comment: When connecting objects through dynamic patching, pd can connect an outlet several times to the same inlet if sending the same message many times. The attached patch shows this behaviour, and why it can lead to strange and hard to find bugs. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >Comment By: SourceForge Robot (sf-robot) Date: 2009-07-01 02:20 Message: This Tracker item was closed automatically by the system. It was previously set to a Pending status, and the original submitter did not respond within 14 days (the time period specified by the administrator of this Tracker). ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Hans-Christoph Steiner (eighthave) Date: 2009-06-16 23:40 Message: The editor does not let you create duplicate connections. You can see that by reading the .pd file if you save out the patch below before deleting the connection. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Date: 2009-06-16 17:39 Message: eighthave, your test does not necessarily test that, because you don't know in advance whether deleting what looks like a single wire really deletes a single wire or not. Your only quick way of really knowing whether a wire is double, is to try sending messages through a wire that could be double, and see whether the messages get duplicated. Else you have to first demonstrate a way that wires can be really duplicated so that you can show that wire deletion really always deletes one wire at a time... that'd take a lot more than 6 steps. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Hans-Christoph Steiner (eighthave) Date: 2009-06-16 16:17 Message: and for a working illustration of this, try this: 1. create new patch 2. create an [inlet] 3. create an [outlet] 4. connect the [inlet] to the [outlet] 5. connect the [inlet] to the [outlet] again 6. break the connection between the [inlet] and the [outlet] There is only one connection... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Hans-Christoph Steiner (eighthave) Date: 2009-06-16 16:13 Message: IOhannes, its hard to find documentation for things that are not features in software. People usually do not document things that are not included in software, because that documentation would be endless and useless. I can say that duplicate connections is not mentioned in any of the reference materials. Do I need a reference to say that you cannot connect an outlet to the background canvas? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Date: 2009-06-16 14:56 Message: something doesn't have to be a feature OR a bug. it can also be neither, in the grey area, without status nor reason for being whichever way, and there isn't necessarily a reason for it to be any different either. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: IOhannes m zmlnig (zmoelnig) Date: 2009-06-16 14:51 Message: was it you that just said "so you can't tell whether it's a bug or a feature, and you can reasonably argue for either"? for instance (totally unrelated) you can just duplicate an object with Ctrl-C Ctrl-V and you cannot visually distinguish the two instances (a common pitfall for newbies and oldies). if this would be removed i would be really upset. however, of course i cannot think of being very upset if the duplicate-connection was removed. i just don't think it's a bug - leaving only the "feature" option... also i am not aware of the truth of "the Pd language as its defined has no way to handle multiple connections from the same outlet to the same inlet". please give a reference. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Date: 2009-06-16 14:37 Message: zmoelnig, whenever you do anything with pd, you must know what you're doing, and it's also easily possible to keep track of multiple connections if the editor allowed them, by using comment (ctrl-5) or a piece of napkin. As a hypothetical question, if canvas_connect disallowed multiple connections, would you really request a multiple connection feature? see also the article "Real Programmers Don't Use Pascal"... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Hans-Christoph Steiner (eighthave) Date: 2009-06-16 14:29 Message: First, the Pd language as its defined has no way to handle multiple connections from the same outlet to the same inlet. The implementation might. The second question then is, is there ever a reason that duplicate connections would be used? They seem to add nothing but confusion. I don't consider confusion a feature. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: IOhannes m zmlnig (zmoelnig) Date: 2009-06-16 14:13 Message: i would argue that it is a feature. when programmatically creating patches, you really MUST know what you are doing. it is easily possible to keep track of which connections you have done already, so you don't need to double-connect... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Date: 2009-06-15 23:21 Message: this happens in canvas_connect in src/g_editor.c and happens in _all_ versions of pd ever, all OSes, etc. it is officially undocumented, so you can't tell whether it's a bug or a feature, and you can reasonably argue for either. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Johannes (jpburstrom) Date: 2009-06-15 23:10 Message: Sorry, here's some more: This is a problem with both pd-0.41.4-extended and pd-0.42.5, on my 64-bit ubuntu 9.04. It seems to happen regardless of sound card and audio API. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Hans-Christoph Steiner (eighthave) Date: 2009-06-15 23:03 Message: Please provide as detailed information as possible including which operating system (OS), CPU type, specific hardware, and the exact distro and version of Pd itself, etc. For example: Pd version 0.41.4-extended Mac OS X 10.5.7/Intel built-in sound ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478070&aid=2806856&group_…

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