Pd-dev January 2009

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removing diffs from pd-cvs emails
by Hans-Christoph Steiner 13 Feb '09

13 Feb '09

Hey, Since the svnnotify script includes direct links to the changed code, and more, would anyone object if the commit emails no longer include the diff? I think I initially objected to this, now I have seen the error of my ways. :D .hc ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mistrust authority - promote decentralization. - the hacker ethic

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spotlight importer build error on 10.5
by Hans-Christoph Steiner 04 Feb '09

04 Feb '09

When I try to build the spotlight importer with XCode 3.1.2 on Mac OS X 10.5.6/Intel, I get this error: error: can't exec '/Developer/Library/Xcode/Plug-ins/GCC 4.0.xcplugin/ Contents/Resources/cc' (No such file or directory) Any ideas how to fix it? I have the whole XCode installed. That file is indeed not there, but I have built other things with this install of XCode. .hc ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- News is what people want to keep hidden and everything else is publicity. - Bill Moyers

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[initbang]/[closebang] routines requested for inclusion in pd vanilla branch..
by dmotd 02 Feb '09

02 Feb '09

hello folks, it's been a couple of years since IOhannes submitted his patch for constructor/destructor routines.. as far as i know only pd-extended has picked up the patch. could miller please consider this for inclusion into his stable branch? without the [initbang] / [closebang] objects, pd is crippled to a static application of the abstraction philosophy, making it impossible to dynamically create inlets/outlets based on an abstractions arguments. this is really a silly limitation that has already been solved and should be put into regular practice where ever possible. while i understand that miller has been hesitant to include such functionality, i would prefer it to be an included but undocumented feature (much like the role that [namecanvas] presently takes) than not included at all. anyhow, there's a chance this will fall on deaf ears, but i would just like to register my vote for permanent inclusion. many thanks as always, dmotd

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[clipboard get] vs. custom X11 code
by Hans-Christoph Steiner 01 Feb '09

01 Feb '09

I am looking at the copy/paste mechanism and I noticed that for some reason, on X11 (i.e. GNU/Linux), there is different code for getting the info to paste. There is this comment: /* in X windows the selection already went to the clipboard when it was made; here we "copy" it to our own buffer as well, because, annoyingly, the clipboard will usually be destroyed by the time the user asks to "paste". */ On Win32 and Mac OS X, pd gets the text from Tcl/Tk using [clipboard get]. It would make things cleaner if everything used the same code. Is there any reason not to make X11 get the data from Tk, if possible? .hc ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Computer science is no more related to the computer than astronomy is related to the telescope. -Edsger Dykstra

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[ pure-data-Feature Requests-2550133 ] add -r (recursive) flag to path
by SourceForge.net 30 Jan '09

30 Jan '09

Feature Requests item #2550133, was opened at 2009-01-30 20:03 Message generated for change (Tracker Item Submitted) made by Item Submitter You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478073&aid=2550133&group_… Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: None Group: None Status: Open Priority: 5 Private: No Submitted By: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: add -r (recursive) flag to path Initial Comment: It would be useful to add a -r flag to the path parameter, so that pd could look recursively into some folders. This would save adding many (sub)folders to the patch. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478073&aid=2550133&group_…

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[ pure-data-Feature Requests-2547002 ] add ability to read/write .maxpat Max5 files
by SourceForge.net 30 Jan '09

30 Jan '09

Feature Requests item #2547002, was opened at 2009-01-29 23:12 Message generated for change (Tracker Item Submitted) made by Item Submitter You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478073&aid=2547002&group_… Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: puredata Group: None Status: Open Priority: 5 Private: No Submitted By: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: add ability to read/write .maxpat Max5 files Initial Comment: I found out that there is a SuperCollider patch that can convert Max5 .maxpat files to Max4 .pat files, which Pd can read/write. It would be nice to have this integrated into Pd so that Pd could at least read .maxpat files without a manual conversion. http://www.fredrikolofsson.com/f0blog/?q=node/301 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478073&aid=2547002&group_…

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startup order for pd/pd-gui
by Hans-Christoph Steiner 29 Jan '09

29 Jan '09

One thing that is twisting my brain into knots is the startup order/ procedure. It is not very easy to follow and different on each platform. This is something I would really like to smooth out. Right now, I am looking for tips on figuring out everything that is going on. I've searched around some, but am not finding any archived discussions. Anyone have some tips or know about where some stuff might be written? .hc ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Free software means you control what your computer does. Non-free software means someone else controls that, and to some extent controls you." - Richard M. Stallman

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[ pure-data-Bugs-1654666 ] sending a cut message to an "invisible" subpatch makes crash
by SourceForge.net 28 Jan '09

28 Jan '09

Bugs item #1654666, was opened at 2007-02-08 00:08 Message generated for change (Settings changed) made by zmoelnig You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478070&aid=1654666&group_… Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: puredata Group: v0.40.2 Status: Open Resolution: None >Priority: 7 Private: No Submitted By: Matteo Sisti Sette (sistisette) >Assigned to: Miller Puckette (millerpuckette) Summary: sending a cut message to an "invisible" subpatch makes crash Initial Comment: If you have a subpatch, and send a "cut" message to it when it is not in "visible" state (i.e. it is not open), pd crashes. This may happen when using scripting, if for example you send a "find foo" message followed by a "cut" message. If the object does not exist (and the subpatch hasn't been made explicitly visible), the cut message will reach the canvas when it is invisible. See the attached example. Tested on 0.40.2 on Windows XP. Matteo Sisti Sette matteo dot sistisette at email dot it ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >Comment By: IOhannes m zmlnig (zmoelnig) Date: 2009-01-28 19:09 Message: raised priority since this bothers me right now! miller: any chance to get selection/copy/paste/... to work with closed patches? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478070&aid=1654666&group_…

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svn:externals for internal references?
by IOhannes m zmoelnig 28 Jan '09

28 Jan '09

hi, i cannot remember the status of the discussion regarding svn:externals for _internal_ (that is: within the repository) references. e.g. i want to share an "include" folder between various externals which is trivial if you can guarantee that they are all checked out in parallel. however, i want to be able to check them out separately and not having to bother about checking out another directory separately. the default (e.g. for Pd-extended) builds could well be to not-use the reference but the real directory (so hans can still use "--ignore-externals"). i guess i just give it a try. gfamsdr IOhannes

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GPLv3 and Pd-extended
by Hans-Christoph Steiner 27 Jan '09

27 Jan '09

For the next release of Pd-extended, I think we should release it under the GPL v3, so I am asking to see if there are any objections. This is my understanding of what this would mean: the only real added restriction would be that things included in Pd-extended could not be licensed "GPL v2 only", it would need to be licensed "GPL v2 or later" or BSD-style. If Pd-extended is again released using GPL v2, that means that no GPL v3 code can be included. So releasing Pd-extended as GPL v3 means that people can choose the GPL v3 for code that is included, or they can totally ignore the change, and keep the code as "GPL v2 or later" or BSD-style. Here's a bit of previous discussion on this: http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-dev/2006-11/007921.html .hc ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---- All mankind is of one author, and is one volume; when one man dies, one chapter is not torn out of the book, but translated into a better language; and every chapter must be so translated.... -John Donne

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