Pd-dev January 2007

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suggestion to the pd-conference organisation
by Georg Holzmann 15 Jan '07

15 Jan '07

Hallo! (don't know if someone from the organisation team is reading the list - otherwise can someone forward this mail to them ?) I just thought that we should maybe have more such slots for discussion of the development as in Graz. In Graz we had this "coding sprint" quite at the end of the conference ... Maybe it would be good to have small coding-sprint-slot each day or more often ? Or at least also at the beginning of the conference, so that the people can think and speak more about these things ... LG Georg

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[ pure-data-Patches-1543850 ] $@ and $# expansion (argc, argv)
by SourceForge.net 13 Jan '07

13 Jan '07

Patches item #1543850, was opened at 2006-08-21 06:24 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by matju You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478072&aid=1543850&group_… Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: puredata Group: wishlist Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Private: No Submitted By: IOhannes m zmölnig (zmoelnig) Assigned to: Miller Puckette (millerpuckette) Summary: $@ and $# expansion (argc, argv) Initial Comment: the attached patch extends the $-expansion mechanism: $# expands to the number of arguments; usable both as A_DOLLAR (just "$#") and A_DOLLSYM ("$#-bla") $@ expands to the entire list of arguments (e.g. [$@ $@( will expand [1 2 3( to [1 2 3 1 2 3(); this is only usable as A_DOLLAR; i.e. [symbol $@-a( will always expand to "$@-a" why: well, its a way to deal with dynamic length lists that is still missing in pd (though 1st steps have been made with [list]) caveats: what is still missing is an expansion for the selector of messages and objects (the selector of an object would be the object's instantation name); would $$ be a good name for this? (since $0 is already taken) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Mathieu Bouchard (matju) Date: 2007-01-13 00:24 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=801174 Originator: NO i think that $@ is what is necessary to allow abstractions to do what they want with args, and that $# is not so useful in comparison, and what would be more useful than $# (in the sense of avoiding more detours) would be to be able to do a $@-like thing that only starts at the Nth argument, e.g. if I have an abstraction that takes $1 $2 $3 and then a variable number of arguments, and those arguments starting with $4 are to be all written directly in an objectbox. witness the strange stuff going on in [nqpoly]... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: IOhannes m zmölnig (zmoelnig) Date: 2007-01-02 13:52 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=564396 Originator: YES updated for current CVSversion of pd (2007-01-02) File Added: dollargcargv.patch ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Hans-Christoph Steiner (eighthave) Date: 2006-08-22 18:21 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=27104 Yes! This is great! As for the selector, $0 is not taken in message space, so I think it makes sense there. Since message expansion variables are already different than object arguments, I think that won't be too confusing. Plus the $ variable syntax comes from shell scripting, where $0 is basically the selector of the message that is the command line arguments. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478072&aid=1543850&group_…

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Re: Startup errors
by Hans-Christoph Steiner 12 Jan '07

12 Jan '07

(You should post these kind of questions to the list or the forum. There are many people there who can answer these questions, and many who will benefit from the answers. I am cc'ing the list for this response.) It looks to me that you are running the 10.4 build on a 10.3 machine, is that correct? Trying the 10.3 build. .hc On Jan 7, 2007, at 7:49 PM, W. Ryan Nestor wrote: > > Hans, > First off, THANK YOU for all your work doing these builds!!! > I've been getting these errors however, is there anything I can do > about it? > > dyld: /Volumes/Pd-0.39.2-extended-test7/Pd-0.39.2-extended- > test7.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/../bin/pd Undefined symbols: > /Volumes/Pd-0.39.2-extended-test7/Pd-0.39.2-extended-test7.app/ > Contents/Resources/Scripts/../bin/pd undefined reference to _cosf > expected to be defined in /usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib > dyld: /Applications/Pd-0.39.2-extended-test5.app/Contents/Resources/ > Scripts/../bin/pd Undefined symbols: > /Applications/Pd-0.39.2-extended-test5.app/Contents/Resources/ > Scripts/../bin/pd undefined reference to _cosf expected to be > defined in /usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib > > --Nestor > > _________________________________________________________________ >> From photos to predictions, The MSN Entertainment Guide to Golden >> Globes has > it all. http://tv.msn.com/tv/globes2007/?icid=nctagline1 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Access to computers should be unlimited and total. - the hacker ethic

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turn on anti-aliasing for one Tk "create"
by Hans-Christoph Steiner 09 Jan '07

09 Jan '07

Is it possible to turn on anti-aliasing for one Tk "create" command? If so, it would be easy to make the patch coords and the circle in the bang anti-aliased, while the boxes remain crisp. .hc ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Terrorism is not an enemy. It cannot be defeated. It's a tactic. It's about as sensible to say we declare war on night attacks and expect we're going to win that war. We're not going to win the war on terrorism. - retired U.S. Army general, William Odom

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pd-extended build system questions
by Georg Holzmann 09 Jan '07

09 Jan '07

(ups sorry - this should be for pd-dev) Hallo Hans+list! I just added PDContainer to the build system and have some questions: o) I have to use g++, otherwise I cannot link the binary - is this okay for the compile farm ? o) is it now, with the [declare] object, still necessary to make a binary out of each pd object ? (I made now one pdcontainer.pd_linux and installed it to /pd/extra/pdcontainer/ - but I think I have to split this into binaries for each object ?) o) in externals/Makefile: ifeq ($(OS_NAME),linux) [...] DYLIB_EXTENSION = dll [..] endif ifeq ($(OS_NAME),windows) [...] DYLIB_EXTENSION = so [...] endif shouldn't this be exchanged ? (dll for windows and so for linux ?) o) are there plans to make debian packages too ? (or what has to be done to make them work ?) Thanks, LG Georg

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Re: [PD-dev] text placement
by martin.peach＠sympatico.ca 08 Jan '07

08 Jan '07

You mean the labels? In g_all_guis.c: void iemgui_label(void *x, t_iemgui *iemgui, t_symbol *s) and void iemgui_label_pos(void *x, t_iemgui *iemgui, t_symbol *s, int ac, t_atom *av) The x_lab and y_lab items can be set in u_main.tk, they are the x_off and y_off parameters for some of the guis. Or did you mean the contents of the boxes? static void *my_canvas_new(t_symbol *s, int argc, t_atom *argv) in g_mycanvas.c might be relevant... Martin > > From: Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans(a)eds.org> > Date: 2007/01/08 Mon PM 01:20:49 EST > To: PD List <pd-dev(a)iem.at> > Subject: [PD-dev] text placement > > > Can anyone point me to where the text is placed on the canvas in > relation to the object and message boxes? It seems to vary depending > on platform and I'd like to troubleshoot it. > > .hc > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > As we enjoy great advantages from inventions of others, we should be > glad of an opportunity to serve others by any invention of ours; and > this we should do freely and generously. - Benjamin Franklin > > > > _______________________________________________ > PD-dev mailing list > PD-dev(a)iem.at > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-dev >

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unsubscribe
by Mathieu Bouchard 08 Jan '07

08 Jan '07

i'm unsubscribing from: pd-list pd-dev pd-announce pd-ot i will stay on: pd-cvs gem-dev gridflow-dev gridflow-cvs pdmtl dataflow (etc) and also on IRC: #dataflow #desiredata GridFlow questions are best directed to gridflow-dev (http://lists.artengine.ca/mailman/listinfo/gridflow-dev) and DesireData/PureUnity questions are best directed to the dataflow mailing-list (http://lists.artengine.ca/mailman/listinfo/dataflow), but actually there's currently more action in the FreeNode chatrooms. If I make an important announcement worthy of pd-list, I'll make it somewhere else and then someone else on Earth will figure out that it has to be forwarded to pd-list. _ _ __ ___ _____ ________ _____________ _____________________ ... | Mathieu Bouchard - tél:+1.514.383.3801 - http://artengine.ca/matju | Freelance Digital Arts Engineer, Montréal QC Canada

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Compile Farm Debian/Ubuntu boxes apt-get upgraded
by Hans-Christoph Steiner 07 Jan '07

07 Jan '07

Just an FYI, subject pretty much says it all: I apt-get upgraded all the Debian-eqsue boxes in the auto-build farm. .hc ------------------------------------------------------------------------ As we enjoy great advantages from inventions of others, we should be glad of an opportunity to serve others by any invention of ours; and this we should do freely and generously. - Benjamin Franklin

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inverse of myclass_setup()? myclass_unsetup()?
by Claude Heiland-Allen 07 Jan '07

07 Jan '07

Hi, Say I have the following: hsext_setup() { /* start Haskell run time system */ } hsext_unsetup() { /* stop Haskell run time system cannot be restarted hereafter */ } Am I correct in assuming hsext_setup() will be called at most once? How can I ensure hsext_unsetup() is called when Pd exits? Is atexit() the right way? Seems dirty: ---- $ man atexit Since glibc 2.2.3, atexit() can be used within a shared library to establish functions that are called when the shared library is unloaded. Functions registered using atexit() are not called if a process terminates abnormally because of the delivery of a signal. ---- Thanks for any ideas, Claude -- http://claudiusmaximus.goto10.org

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IEM GUIs have correct font size on Mac OS X
by Hans-Christoph Steiner 07 Jan '07

07 Jan '07

It looks like the IEM GUIs have the correct font size, at least on Mac OS X. Here's a snapshot of Pd (message box and [cnv]s) vs. TextEdit with the same fonts: .hc ------------------------------------------------------------------------ As we enjoy great advantages from inventions of others, we should be glad of an opportunity to serve others by any invention of ours; and this we should do freely and generously. - Benjamin Franklin

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