Pd-dev May 2006

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Re: [PD-dev] CVS/SVN @ iem (was Re: [GEM-dev] CVS...)
by IOhannes m zmoelnig 09 May '06

09 May '06

hmm, i don't really understand the politics of this thread moving between pd-list, pd-dev, gem-dev and no list at all. i put it back to pd-dev where i think is the appropriate place. i hope this is ok for both of you and there is no sensitive content in your emails. Mathieu Bouchard wrote: > On Mon, 8 May 2006, Alexandre Castonguay wrote: >> ultimatum which simply solidifies positions. I think that the cvs issue >> is bothering everyone and that the IEM is probably better placed to host >> it. > > I'd rather have everything moved back to IEM, which is also what I said > when the CVS left IEM, but now I have a real reason. did the CVS ever leave the iem? i don't remember that it ever lived there.... (cvs.pd.iem.at has always been an alias for cvs.sourceforge.net; i just made it so i don't have to bother whether the real name is cvs.sf.net or pure-data.cvs.sf.net of whatever) > > If IEM doesn't move the CVS this month and SF doesn't improve, then I want whether SF improves is obviously out of my hand. migrating the CVS from sf to iem is another issue: i do think that it might be worth the efford, however it is certainly nothing i want to do within *this* month. > a relay (for 0-delay anonymous update). setting up a mirror of the developers' access to sourceforge's CVS at the iem shouldn't be a big problem: by this i mean that we can grant bandwidth and infrastructure; how to make it to be 0-delay i don't know yet, but i guess that we can do that with combined powers.... and even if there was some delay (e.g. 1h) it would at least provide _recent_ changes to the codeset, instead of being frozen at the end of march... however, the real issue is with developer access: for whatever versioning backend we choose, we have to setup the user database at puredata.info; what i always had in mind was using the portal-users (how you log-in at http://puredata.info) for this; unfortunately the users are currently stored directly in the zope/plone instance instead of a unified backend (ldap) which could be used to authenticate for ssh(cvs)/webdav(svn)/whatever/... access. obviously this is also a security issue, so i have to insist on a "clean" solution. as for subversion vs. cvs, the problem is that i still think that getting the pd repository to svn is (at the very least) a "hard" task. another important issue is, that svn knows nothing about priviliges (you cannot restrict users to read-only in a special branch (or rather subdirectory, as that is how svn handles branches) directly. such privilege separation is currently used in the pd-CVS on sf. i am pretty sure that it is possible by sophisticated usage of the apache-<Limit>, but i have no experience on making it work together smoothly. a quite cool solution might be the use of zope/plone as the authentication frontend (instead of apache): this would allow for web-configurable user/group settings and very fine grained restrictions on who can access what. however, i have no experience AT ALL whether this could work well (and reliable) > If no-one helps me to set up the relay and I can't get it to work, then > I'll have to fork the branch. as stated above, setting up an (anonymous) mirror should be no problem. mfg.asdr. IOhannes

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Fwd: Re: Fwd: another developer
by João Miguel Pais 08 May '06

08 May '06

[first mistake: sent to pd-list instead of pd-dev] ------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht ------- Hello, I am JoÃ£o Miguel Pais, and some of you might know me from my (mostly) questions in the list. I guess it's part of protocol to tell something about me, so here it is: - I studied composition in Lisbon, London and Freiburg (Germany), where I still live - I worked with Csound, Max-MSP, and later Pd - I am not a C programmer, so my work is in the form of abstractions. Since I am using Pd everytime ofter, I try to implement higher-level objects, so that repeated operations will be easier to do (openfile dialogs, editing GUIs, level metering, etc. etc.). I would like to learn C and go deeper, but I didn't had time/courage until now (but there's still hope). - I work on windows, but am now going slowly to ubuntu (as you might have learned by some angry frustrated mails some weeks ago). - My work plattform is an IBM Thinkpad R51 (1.6 Ghz, 1G RAM), RME Hdspa card + Multiface, Behringer BCF2000, and some other smaller stuff. In windows I worked with the "official" version and maintained it myself, but since I am going to use Pd simultaneously on both win and lin, I'm changing to pd-ext (as it is already post-0.39) - My main interests / uses of Pd nowadays are for my own personal work: with composition (eithter Tape or live-electronics), and improvisation (as part of the Laptop trio Endphase - www.endphase.net) [- To earn money I work nowadys as a notesetter (Sibelius); I am planning on moving to Berlin after the Summer.] - my Pd page is in http://www.puredata.org/Members/jmmmp if any other information is required, let me know. Greetings, JoÃ£o Miguel Pais >> Since we are on the topic, I'd like to propose adding Joao Miguel Pais >> as a developer. I am here in ZÃŒrich working with him, and he's got a >> lot of really nice GOP objects that should be included. >> >> Also, his GUI-edit program made me realize that we should be making all >> of the Properties and Pd-specific app panes in Pd itself. Max does >> this, and I think it makes good sense that Pd should too. >> >> So I'll leave it to Joao to introduce himself and wait for the >> obligatory waiting period. -- Lugostr. 14 79100 Freiburg i. Br. Deutschland +49 (0)761 7074997 jmmmpais(a)googlemail.com http://www.puredata.org/Members/jmmmp

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Re: [PD-dev] problem compiling external
by michael gross 08 May '06

08 May '06

hello thank you IOhannes that was it. btw i have another newbe question. if i need global variables for the pd external where would i put them and what would be the simplest case where you acctually have to write a deconstructor. in the tutorial externals there was nowhere a deconstructor specified. best michael >> michael gross wrote: >>> hello >> >>> compile the source i get only warnings and no errors but it still fails >>> to >>> compile. >> >> well, if it fails to compile i guess there IS an error... >> >>> i am using the makefile provided in >>> /usr/lib/pd/doc/6.externs and gcc-3.4 for compilation. >>> >> >> did you try to remove the "-Werror" flag from the makefile (which turns >> warnings into erros)? >> >> mf.asdr. >> IOhannes >> > >

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problem compiling external
by michael gross 08 May '06

08 May '06

hello i am new to writing pd externals and have some general questions. i am trying to write an external which establishes a socket connection to an other programm. when I try to compile the fallowing source it does not seem to work because of unlink, bind and accept. i create the socket in the constructor and try to write to it in the function connect_to. when i compile the source i get only warnings and no errors but it still fails to compile. i am using the makefile provided in /usr/lib/pd/doc/6.externs and gcc-3.4 for compilation. without the method connect compilation works fine. #include <sys/types.h> #include <sys/socket.h> #include <sys/un.h> #include <stdio.h> #include <sys/time.h> #define NSTRS 3 /* no. of strings */ #define ADDRESS "myso" /* addr to connect */ #include "m_pd.h" char c; FILE *fp; int fromlen; char *strs; int time; char string[50]; int i, s, ns, len; struct sockaddr_un saun, fsaun; typedef struct obj1 { t_object x_ob; } t_obj1; t_class *obj1_class; void *obj1_new(void) { if ((s = socket(AF_UNIX, SOCK_STREAM, 0)) < 0) { post("no socket"); } t_obj1 *x = (t_obj1 *)pd_new(obj1_class); post("obj1_new"); return (void *)x; } void connect_to(t_obj1 *x) { saun.sun_family = AF_UNIX; strcpy(saun.sun_path, ADDRESS); unlink(ADDRESS); len = sizeof(saun.sun_family) + strlen(saun.sun_path); if (bind(s, &saun, len) < 0) { } if (listen(s, 5) < 0) { } if ((ns = accept(s, &fsaun, &fromlen)) < 0) { } fp = fdopen(ns, "r"); send(ns, string, strlen(string), 0); close(s); } void obj1_setup(void) { post("obj1_setup"); obj1_class = class_new(gensym("obj1"), (t_newmethod)obj1_new, 0, sizeof(t_obj1), 0, 0); class_addmethod(obj1_class, (t_method)connect_to, gensym("connect_to"), 0); } thank you for any help michael

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[ pure-data-Bugs-1483759 ] /bin/pthreadVC.dll missing
by SourceForge.net 08 May '06

08 May '06

Bugs item #1483759, was opened at 2006-05-08 05:01 Message generated for change (Tracker Item Submitted) made by Item Submitter You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478070&aid=1483759&group_… Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: pd-extended Group: None Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Submitted By: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Assigned to: Hans-Christoph Steiner (eighthave) Summary: /bin/pthreadVC.dll missing Initial Comment: /bin/pthreadVC.dll is missing. Copying it from any other pd version solves the problem. jmmmp ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478070&aid=1483759&group_…

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[PD-dev] [ pure-data-Bugs-1483338 ] color scheme - pd, pd-rgb, datas, gem, ...
by SourceForge.net 07 May '06

07 May '06

Bugs item #1483338, was opened at 2006-05-07 07:03 Message generated for change (Tracker Item Submitted) made by Item Submitter You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478070&aid=1483338&group_… Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: puredata Group: None Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Submitted By: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: color scheme - pd, pd-rgb, datas, gem, ... Initial Comment: There are now 3 or 4 different color schemes being used in pd - 16colors, rgb colors, data structures, gem (and maybe more?). It would be nice and easier if the colors would be made in a common format. Someone has pointed out as well that even the pd-rgb colors are saved as one specific number (a negative one), in the .pd text file a different number appears. That's not so great if someone generates files automatically. A thread about this is at http://lists.puredata.info/ pipermail/pd-list/2006-03/036597.html. Greetings, JoÃ£o Miguel Pais ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478070&aid=1483338&group_…

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net objects
by Martin Peach 05 May '06

05 May '06

I made some net externals that use raw bytes instead of pd messages: http://puredata.info/Members/martinrp/netobjects They are based on netreceive and netsend. Maybe they could be incorporated into pd since they're using poll functions which are not officially exposed in m_pd.h. I'm working on packOSC and upackOSC which interface to these objects via lists of floats-constrained-to-be-bytes. unpackOSC will allow routing via route instead of OSCroute since the path will be separated into symbols and output as a list. The data will be output as a separate list. Martin

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font tests Re: [PD] Re: thoughts on manuals
by Andre Schmidt 04 May '06

04 May '06

here couple tests UBUNTU 5.10 tcl/tk8.4 ----------------------------------------- Courier -8: -ascent 7 -descent 2 -linespace 9 -fixed 0 A:5 B:5 C:5 D:5 E:5 F:5 G:5 H:5 I:5 J:5 K:5 L:5 M:5 N:5 O:5 P:5 Q:5 R:5 S:5 T:5 U:5 V:5 W:5 X:5 Y:5 Z:5 a:5 b:5 c:5 d:5 e:5 f:5 g:5 h:5 i:5 j:5 k:5 l:5 m:5 n:5 o:5 p:5 q:5 r:5 s:5 t:5 u:5 v:5 w:5 x:5 y:5 z:5 Courier -10: -ascent 8 -descent 2 -linespace 10 -fixed 1 A:6 B:6 C:6 D:6 E:6 F:6 G:6 H:6 I:6 J:6 K:6 L:6 M:6 N:6 O:6 P:6 Q:6 R:6 S:6 T:6 U:6 V:6 W:6 X:6 Y:6 Z:6 a:6 b:6 c:6 d:6 e:6 f:6 g:6 h:6 i:6 j:6 k:6 l:6 m:6 n:6 o:6 p:6 q:6 r:6 s:6 t:6 u:6 v:6 w:6 x:6 y:6 z:6 Courier -12: -ascent 10 -descent 3 -linespace 13 -fixed 1 A:7 B:7 C:7 D:7 E:7 F:7 G:7 H:7 I:7 J:7 K:7 L:7 M:7 N:7 O:7 P:7 Q:7 R:7 S:7 T:7 U:7 V:7 W:7 X:7 Y:7 Z:7 a:7 b:7 c:7 d:7 e:7 f:7 g:7 h:7 i:7 j:7 k:7 l:7 m:7 n:7 o:7 p:7 q:7 r:7 s:7 t:7 u:7 v:7 w:7 x:7 y:7 z:7 Courier -14: -ascent 11 -descent 3 -linespace 14 -fixed 1 A:9 B:9 C:9 D:9 E:9 F:9 G:9 H:9 I:9 J:9 K:9 L:9 M:9 N:9 O:9 P:9 Q:9 R:9 S:9 T:9 U:9 V:9 W:9 X:9 Y:9 Z:9 a:9 b:9 c:9 d:9 e:9 f:9 g:9 h:9 i:9 j:9 k:9 l:9 m:9 n:9 o:9 p:9 q:9 r:9 s:9 t:9 u:9 v:9 w:9 x:9 y:9 z:9 Helvetica -8: -ascent 8 -descent 2 -linespace 10 -fixed 0 A:6 B:6 C:6 D:6 E:6 F:5 G:6 H:6 I:2 J:4 K:6 L:5 M:7 N:6 O:6 P:6 Q:6 R:6 S:6 T:4 U:6 V:6 W:7 X:6 Y:6 Z:6 a:4 b:5 c:4 d:5 e:4 f:3 g:5 h:5 i:2 j:2 k:4 l:2 m:6 n:5 o:5 p:5 q:5 r:3 s:4 t:3 u:4 v:5 w:6 x:5 y:4 z:4 Helvetica -10: -ascent 10 -descent 2 -linespace 12 -fixed 0 A:7 B:7 C:8 D:8 E:7 F:6 G:8 H:8 I:3 J:5 K:7 L:6 M:9 N:8 O:8 P:7 Q:8 R:7 S:7 T:5 U:8 V:7 W:9 X:7 Y:7 Z:7 a:5 b:6 c:5 d:6 e:5 f:4 g:6 h:6 i:2 j:2 k:5 l:2 m:8 n:6 o:6 p:6 q:6 r:4 s:5 t:4 u:5 v:6 w:8 x:6 y:5 z:5 Helvetica -12: -ascent 11 -descent 3 -linespace 14 -fixed 0 A:9 B:8 C:9 D:9 E:8 F:8 G:9 H:9 I:3 J:7 K:8 L:7 M:11 N:9 O:10 P:8 Q:10 R:8 S:8 T:7 U:8 V:9 W:11 X:9 Y:9 Z:9 a:7 b:7 c:7 d:7 e:7 f:3 g:7 h:7 i:3 j:3 k:6 l:3 m:9 n:7 o:7 p:7 q:7 r:4 s:6 t:3 u:7 v:7 w:9 x:6 y:7 z:6 Helvetica -14: -ascent 13 -descent 3 -linespace 16 -fixed 0 A:9 B:9 C:10 D:10 E:9 F:8 G:11 H:10 I:4 J:7 K:9 L:8 M:12 N:10 O:11 P:9 Q:11 R:10 S:9 T:9 U:10 V:9 W:13 X:9 Y:9 Z:9 a:8 b:7 c:7 d:8 e:8 f:4 g:8 h:8 i:3 j:3 k:7 l:3 m:11 n:8 o:8 p:8 q:8 r:5 s:7 t:4 u:7 v:7 w:10 x:7 y:7 z:7 Sans -8: -ascent 7 -descent 1 -linespace 8 -fixed 1 A:5 B:5 C:5 D:5 E:5 F:5 G:5 H:5 I:5 J:5 K:5 L:5 M:5 N:5 O:5 P:5 Q:5 R:5 S:5 T:5 U:5 V:5 W:5 X:5 Y:5 Z:5 a:5 b:5 c:5 d:5 e:5 f:5 g:5 h:5 i:5 j:5 k:5 l:5 m:5 n:5 o:5 p:5 q:5 r:5 s:5 t:5 u:5 v:5 w:5 x:5 y:5 z:5 Sans -10: -ascent 8 -descent 2 -linespace 10 -fixed 1 A:6 B:6 C:6 D:6 E:6 F:6 G:6 H:6 I:6 J:6 K:6 L:6 M:6 N:6 O:6 P:6 Q:6 R:6 S:6 T:6 U:6 V:6 W:6 X:6 Y:6 Z:6 a:6 b:6 c:6 d:6 e:6 f:6 g:6 h:6 i:6 j:6 k:6 l:6 m:6 n:6 o:6 p:6 q:6 r:6 s:6 t:6 u:6 v:6 w:6 x:6 y:6 z:6 Sans -12: -ascent 11 -descent 2 -linespace 13 -fixed 1 A:7 B:7 C:7 D:7 E:7 F:7 G:7 H:7 I:7 J:7 K:7 L:7 M:7 N:7 O:7 P:7 Q:7 R:7 S:7 T:7 U:7 V:7 W:7 X:7 Y:7 Z:7 a:7 b:7 c:7 d:7 e:7 f:7 g:7 h:7 i:7 j:7 k:7 l:7 m:7 n:7 o:7 p:7 q:7 r:7 s:7 t:7 u:7 v:7 w:7 x:7 y:7 z:7 Sans -14: -ascent 12 -descent 2 -linespace 14 -fixed 1 A:7 B:7 C:7 D:7 E:7 F:7 G:7 H:7 I:7 J:7 K:7 L:7 M:7 N:7 O:7 P:7 Q:7 R:7 S:7 T:7 U:7 V:7 W:7 X:7 Y:7 Z:7 a:7 b:7 c:7 d:7 e:7 f:7 g:7 h:7 i:7 j:7 k:7 l:7 m:7 n:7 o:7 p:7 q:7 r:7 s:7 t:7 u:7 v:7 w:7 x:7 y:7 z:7 UBUNTU 6.06 tcl/tk8.4 ----------------------------------------- Courier -8: -ascent 7 -descent 2 -linespace 9 -fixed 0 A:5 B:5 C:5 D:5 E:5 F:5 G:5 H:5 I:5 J:5 K:5 L:5 M:5 N:5 O:5 P:5 Q:5 R:5 S:5 T:5 U:5 V:5 W:5 X:5 Y:5 Z:5 a:5 b:5 c:5 d:5 e:5 f:5 g:5 h:5 i:5 j:5 k:5 l:5 m:5 n:5 o:5 p:5 q:5 r:5 s:5 t:5 u:5 v:5 w:5 x:5 y:5 z:5 Courier -10: -ascent 8 -descent 2 -linespace 10 -fixed 1 A:6 B:6 C:6 D:6 E:6 F:6 G:6 H:6 I:6 J:6 K:6 L:6 M:6 N:6 O:6 P:6 Q:6 R:6 S:6 T:6 U:6 V:6 W:6 X:6 Y:6 Z:6 a:6 b:6 c:6 d:6 e:6 f:6 g:6 h:6 i:6 j:6 k:6 l:6 m:6 n:6 o:6 p:6 q:6 r:6 s:6 t:6 u:6 v:6 w:6 x:6 y:6 z:6 Courier -12: -ascent 10 -descent 3 -linespace 13 -fixed 1 A:7 B:7 C:7 D:7 E:7 F:7 G:7 H:7 I:7 J:7 K:7 L:7 M:7 N:7 O:7 P:7 Q:7 R:7 S:7 T:7 U:7 V:7 W:7 X:7 Y:7 Z:7 a:7 b:7 c:7 d:7 e:7 f:7 g:7 h:7 i:7 j:7 k:7 l:7 m:7 n:7 o:7 p:7 q:7 r:7 s:7 t:7 u:7 v:7 w:7 x:7 y:7 z:7 Courier -14: -ascent 11 -descent 3 -linespace 14 -fixed 1 A:9 B:9 C:9 D:9 E:9 F:9 G:9 H:9 I:9 J:9 K:9 L:9 M:9 N:9 O:9 P:9 Q:9 R:9 S:9 T:9 U:9 V:9 W:9 X:9 Y:9 Z:9 a:9 b:9 c:9 d:9 e:9 f:9 g:9 h:9 i:9 j:9 k:9 l:9 m:9 n:9 o:9 p:9 q:9 r:9 s:9 t:9 u:9 v:9 w:9 x:9 y:9 z:9 Helvetica -8: -ascent 8 -descent 2 -linespace 10 -fixed 0 A:6 B:6 C:6 D:6 E:6 F:5 G:6 H:6 I:2 J:4 K:6 L:5 M:7 N:6 O:6 P:6 Q:6 R:6 S:6 T:5 U:6 V:6 W:8 X:6 Y:6 Z:5 a:5 b:5 c:4 d:5 e:5 f:2 g:5 h:5 i:2 j:2 k:4 l:2 m:7 n:5 o:5 p:5 q:5 r:3 s:4 t:2 u:5 v:4 w:6 x:4 y:4 z:4 Helvetica -10: -ascent 9 -descent 2 -linespace 11 -fixed 0 A:7 B:7 C:8 D:8 E:7 F:6 G:8 H:8 I:3 J:5 K:7 L:6 M:9 N:8 O:8 P:7 Q:8 R:8 S:7 T:6 U:8 V:7 W:10 X:7 Y:7 Z:6 a:6 b:6 c:5 d:6 e:6 f:3 g:6 h:6 i:2 j:2 k:5 l:2 m:9 n:6 o:6 p:6 q:6 r:3 s:5 t:3 u:6 v:5 w:8 x:5 y:5 z:5 Helvetica -12: -ascent 13 -descent 3 -linespace 16 -fixed 0 A:8 B:8 C:9 D:9 E:8 F:8 G:10 H:9 I:3 J:6 K:8 L:7 M:10 N:9 O:10 P:8 Q:10 R:9 S:8 T:8 U:9 V:8 W:12 X:8 Y:8 Z:8 a:7 b:7 c:6 d:7 e:7 f:3 g:7 h:7 i:3 j:3 k:6 l:3 m:10 n:7 o:7 p:7 q:7 r:4 s:6 t:3 u:7 v:6 w:9 x:6 y:6 z:6 Helvetica -14: -ascent 13 -descent 3 -linespace 16 -fixed 0 A:9 B:9 C:10 D:10 E:9 F:9 G:11 H:10 I:4 J:7 K:9 L:8 M:12 N:10 O:11 P:9 Q:11 R:10 S:9 T:9 U:10 V:9 W:13 X:9 Y:9 Z:9 a:8 b:8 c:7 d:8 e:8 f:4 g:8 h:8 i:3 j:3 k:7 l:3 m:12 n:8 o:8 p:8 q:8 r:5 s:7 t:4 u:8 v:7 w:10 x:7 y:7 z:7 Sans -8: -ascent 7 -descent 1 -linespace 8 -fixed 1 A:5 B:5 C:5 D:5 E:5 F:5 G:5 H:5 I:5 J:5 K:5 L:5 M:5 N:5 O:5 P:5 Q:5 R:5 S:5 T:5 U:5 V:5 W:5 X:5 Y:5 Z:5 a:5 b:5 c:5 d:5 e:5 f:5 g:5 h:5 i:5 j:5 k:5 l:5 m:5 n:5 o:5 p:5 q:5 r:5 s:5 t:5 u:5 v:5 w:5 x:5 y:5 z:5 Sans -10: -ascent 8 -descent 2 -linespace 10 -fixed 1 A:6 B:6 C:6 D:6 E:6 F:6 G:6 H:6 I:6 J:6 K:6 L:6 M:6 N:6 O:6 P:6 Q:6 R:6 S:6 T:6 U:6 V:6 W:6 X:6 Y:6 Z:6 a:6 b:6 c:6 d:6 e:6 f:6 g:6 h:6 i:6 j:6 k:6 l:6 m:6 n:6 o:6 p:6 q:6 r:6 s:6 t:6 u:6 v:6 w:6 x:6 y:6 z:6 Sans -12: -ascent 10 -descent 2 -linespace 12 -fixed 1 A:6 B:6 C:6 D:6 E:6 F:6 G:6 H:6 I:6 J:6 K:6 L:6 M:6 N:6 O:6 P:6 Q:6 R:6 S:6 T:6 U:6 V:6 W:6 X:6 Y:6 Z:6 a:6 b:6 c:6 d:6 e:6 f:6 g:6 h:6 i:6 j:6 k:6 l:6 m:6 n:6 o:6 p:6 q:6 r:6 s:6 t:6 u:6 v:6 w:6 x:6 y:6 z:6 Sans -14: -ascent 12 -descent 2 -linespace 14 -fixed 1 A:7 B:7 C:7 D:7 E:7 F:7 G:7 H:7 I:7 J:7 K:7 L:7 M:7 N:7 O:7 P:7 Q:7 R:7 S:7 T:7 U:7 V:7 W:7 X:7 Y:7 Z:7 a:7 b:7 c:7 d:7 e:7 f:7 g:7 h:7 i:7 j:7 k:7 l:7 m:7 n:7 o:7 p:7 q:7 r:7 s:7 t:7 u:7 v:7 w:7 x:7 y:7 z:7 UBUNTU 6.06 tcl/tk8.5-cvs (--enable-xft) ---------------------- Courier -8: -ascent 7 -descent 3 -linespace 10 -fixed 1 A:5 B:5 C:5 D:5 E:5 F:5 G:5 H:5 I:5 J:5 K:5 L:5 M:5 N:5 O:5 P:5 Q:5 R:5 S:5 T:5 U:5 V:5 W:5 X:5 Y:5 Z:5 a:5 b:5 c:5 d:5 e:5 f:5 g:5 h:5 i:5 j:5 k:5 l:5 m:5 n:5 o:5 p:5 q:5 r:5 s:5 t:5 u:5 v:5 w:5 x:5 y:5 z:5 Courier -10: -ascent 9 -descent 3 -linespace 12 -fixed 1 A:6 B:6 C:6 D:6 E:6 F:6 G:6 H:6 I:6 J:6 K:6 L:6 M:6 N:6 O:6 P:6 Q:6 R:6 S:6 T:6 U:6 V:6 W:6 X:6 Y:6 Z:6 a:6 b:6 c:6 d:6 e:6 f:6 g:6 h:6 i:6 j:6 k:6 l:6 m:6 n:6 o:6 p:6 q:6 r:6 s:6 t:6 u:6 v:6 w:6 x:6 y:6 z:6 Courier -12: -ascent 10 -descent 4 -linespace 14 -fixed 1 A:7 B:7 C:7 D:7 E:7 F:7 G:7 H:7 I:7 J:7 K:7 L:7 M:7 N:7 O:7 P:7 Q:7 R:7 S:7 T:7 U:7 V:7 W:7 X:7 Y:7 Z:7 a:7 b:7 c:7 d:7 e:7 f:7 g:7 h:7 i:7 j:7 k:7 l:7 m:7 n:7 o:7 p:7 q:7 r:7 s:7 t:7 u:7 v:7 w:7 x:7 y:7 z:7 Courier -14: -ascent 12 -descent 4 -linespace 16 -fixed 1 A:8 B:8 C:8 D:8 E:8 F:8 G:8 H:8 I:8 J:8 K:8 L:8 M:8 N:8 O:8 P:8 Q:8 R:8 S:8 T:8 U:8 V:8 W:8 X:8 Y:8 Z:8 a:8 b:8 c:8 d:8 e:8 f:8 g:8 h:8 i:8 j:8 k:8 l:8 m:8 n:8 o:8 p:8 q:8 r:8 s:8 t:8 u:8 v:8 w:8 x:8 y:8 z:8 Helvetica -8: -ascent 8 -descent 3 -linespace 11 -fixed 0 A:5 B:5 C:6 D:6 E:5 F:5 G:6 H:6 I:2 J:4 K:5 L:4 M:7 N:6 O:6 P:5 Q:6 R:6 S:5 T:5 U:6 V:5 W:8 X:5 Y:5 Z:5 a:4 b:4 c:4 d:4 e:4 f:2 g:4 h:4 i:2 j:2 k:4 l:2 m:7 n:4 o:4 p:4 q:4 r:3 s:4 t:2 u:4 v:4 w:6 x:4 y:4 z:4 Helvetica -10: -ascent 10 -descent 3 -linespace 13 -fixed 0 A:7 B:7 C:7 D:7 E:7 F:6 G:8 H:7 I:3 J:5 K:7 L:6 M:8 N:7 O:8 P:7 Q:8 R:7 S:7 T:6 U:7 V:7 W:9 X:7 Y:7 Z:6 a:6 b:6 c:5 d:6 e:6 f:3 g:6 h:6 i:2 j:2 k:5 l:2 m:8 n:6 o:6 p:6 q:6 r:3 s:5 t:3 u:6 v:5 w:7 x:5 y:5 z:5 Helvetica -12: -ascent 12 -descent 4 -linespace 16 -fixed 0 A:8 B:8 C:9 D:9 E:8 F:7 G:9 H:9 I:3 J:6 K:8 L:7 M:10 N:9 O:9 P:8 Q:9 R:9 S:8 T:7 U:9 V:8 W:11 X:8 Y:8 Z:7 a:7 b:7 c:6 d:7 e:7 f:3 g:7 h:7 i:3 j:3 k:6 l:3 m:10 n:7 o:7 p:7 q:7 r:4 s:6 t:3 u:7 v:6 w:9 x:6 y:6 z:6 Helvetica -14: -ascent 14 -descent 4 -linespace 18 -fixed 0 A:9 B:9 C:10 D:10 E:9 F:9 G:11 H:10 I:4 J:7 K:9 L:8 M:12 N:10 O:11 P:9 Q:11 R:10 S:9 T:9 U:10 V:9 W:13 X:9 Y:9 Z:9 a:8 b:8 c:7 d:8 e:8 f:4 g:8 h:8 i:3 j:3 k:7 l:3 m:12 n:8 o:8 p:8 q:8 r:5 s:7 t:4 u:8 v:7 w:10 x:7 y:7 z:7 Sans -8: -ascent 8 -descent 2 -linespace 10 -fixed 0 A:5 B:5 C:6 D:6 E:5 F:5 G:6 H:6 I:2 J:2 K:5 L:4 M:7 N:6 O:6 P:5 Q:6 R:6 S:5 T:5 U:6 V:5 W:8 X:5 Y:5 Z:5 a:5 b:5 c:4 d:5 e:5 f:3 g:5 h:5 i:2 j:2 k:5 l:2 m:8 n:5 o:5 p:5 q:5 r:3 s:4 t:3 u:5 v:5 w:7 x:5 y:5 z:4 Sans -10: -ascent 10 -descent 3 -linespace 13 -fixed 0 A:7 B:7 C:8 D:8 E:7 F:6 G:8 H:8 I:3 J:3 K:7 L:6 M:9 N:8 O:8 P:7 Q:8 R:7 S:7 T:4 U:8 V:7 W:9 X:6 Y:7 Z:6 a:6 b:6 c:5 d:6 e:6 f:4 g:6 h:6 i:2 j:2 k:5 l:2 m:10 n:6 o:6 p:6 q:6 r:4 s:5 t:4 u:6 v:6 w:8 x:6 y:6 z:5 Sans -12: -ascent 12 -descent 3 -linespace 15 -fixed 0 A:8 B:8 C:8 D:9 E:8 F:7 G:9 H:9 I:3 J:3 K:7 L:6 M:10 N:9 O:9 P:8 Q:9 R:8 S:8 T:7 U:9 V:8 W:11 X:7 Y:7 Z:9 a:8 b:8 c:7 d:8 e:8 f:4 g:8 h:8 i:3 j:3 k:7 l:3 m:11 n:8 o:8 p:8 q:8 r:5 s:7 t:5 u:8 v:6 w:9 x:6 y:6 z:5 Sans -14: -ascent 13 -descent 4 -linespace 17 -fixed 0 A:9 B:10 C:10 D:11 E:9 F:8 G:11 H:10 I:3 J:3 K:9 L:7 M:12 N:10 O:11 P:9 Q:11 R:10 S:9 T:9 U:10 V:9 W:13 X:9 Y:9 Z:10 a:8 b:9 c:8 d:9 e:9 f:4 g:9 h:9 i:3 j:3 k:8 l:3 m:13 n:9 o:9 p:9 q:9 r:5 s:8 t:5 u:9 v:7 w:11 x:7 y:7 z:8 -andre ps. somehow this didnt get to pd-list with my other email :/ On Sun, 2006-04-30 at 12:06 -0400, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: > On Sun, 30 Apr 2006, adam wrote: > > > Is there any way to get better font handling? that would also improve the > > readability a lot. > > Someone should run this program (using "wish") on each supported OS: > > pack [text .log] -expand 1 -fill both > foreach face {Courier Helvetica Sans} { > foreach n {8 10 12 14} { > set font [list $face -$n] > .log insert end "$font: [font metrics $font]\n" > for {set i 65} {$i < 123} {incr i} { > set t [format %c $i] > .log insert end [format "%s:%-2d " $t [font measure $font $t]] > if {($i&31)==13} {.log insert end "\n"} > if {($i&31)==26} {.log insert end "\n"; set i [expr $i+6]} > } > } > } > > _ _ __ ___ _____ ________ _____________ _____________________ ... > | Mathieu Bouchard - tél:+1.514.383.3801 - http://artengine.ca/matju > | Freelance Digital Arts Engineer, Montréal QC Canada > > _______________________________________________ > PD-list(a)iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

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STK instruments and effects for Windows version PD
by Larry Wu 04 May '06

04 May '06

Dear all, I used "flext" to convert the STK instruments and some effects to PD patches. (only for windows system.) You can download them on this web site: http://ccrma-www.stanford.edu/~larrywu/220a/final-proj.html If you need the source code, please mail me. Best regards. -- Jian-Lung (Larry) Wu Master Student Center for Computer Research in Music and Acoustics Music Department, Stanford University Bachelor Degree Studio of Computer Research on Music and Multimedia Laboratory Computer Science Department, National Cheng Kung University, Taiwan http://ccrma.stanford.edu/~larrywu/

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another developer
by Hans-Christoph Steiner 04 May '06

04 May '06

Since we are on the topic, I'd like to propose adding Joao Miguel Pais as a developer. I am here in Zürich working with him, and he's got a lot of really nice GOP objects that should be included. Also, his GUI-edit program made me realize that we should be making all of the Properties and Pd-specific app panes in Pd itself. Max does this, and I think it makes good sense that Pd should too. So I'll leave it to Joao to introduce himself and wait for the obligatory waiting period. .hc ________________________________________________________________________ ____ "Terrorism is not an enemy. It cannot be defeated. It's a tactic. It's about as sensible to say we declare war on night attacks and expect we're going to win that war. We're not going to win the war on terrorism." - retired U.S. Army general, William Odom

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