Pd-dev August 2005

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CVS uploading
by Ed Kelly 04 Aug '05

04 Aug '05

Hi all, So I've got my objects working, now how do I get them into cvs? do I need to have an account created on Sourceforge from IEM, or is this something I can do myself? Best, Ed Dr Edward Kelly Research Assistant in Sonic Arts London College of Communication University of the Arts London ___________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger - NEW crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com

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sf.net account created
by Ed Kelly 03 Aug '05

03 Aug '05

Hi Tim, Okay, I got my sf.net account: edkelly(a)sf.net There follows a preamble about _me_ Edward Kelly is a Researcher working at the London College of Communication, a composer of electronic, electroacoustic and instrumental music and a DJ. After studying first at the University of Hertfordshire and then at the University of East Anglia in the UK, he has had numerous concert appearances around the World. Presently he is engaged in work with Miller Puckette's Pure Data software composition environment, researching live performance systems and timbral and phonemic analysis tools involving the coding of new objects for PD alone and in collaboration with other developers. It's boring and dry, but after the NATO debacle a few years ago I think it's wise to keep the /cryptic/doc to a minimum ;-) So...what's the next move? Best, Ed, PS Dave Casal reckons you may be able to assist me with how to do makefiles? I know the SCons system is coming in, but I'd still like to be able to put a makefile together, rather than just hacking existing (Puckette) makefiles. I think I see the structure, but in particular I'd like to know how to code the install: option (I tried, they kept complaining of missing separators - see commented sections of makefiles once uploaded to CVS). Dr Edward Kelly Research Assistant in Sonic Arts London College of Communication University of the Arts London ___________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger - NEW crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com

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proposed new "list" object
by Miller Puckette 02 Aug '05

02 Aug '05

Hi devs... I'm thinking about finally writing a "list" object for Pd to do jobs like "append", "any", etc. I've held off so far because I've felt unsure about the best design... and once I stick it in the "base" Pd it will be hard to change. To avoid cluttering up the namespace I want to use just the one name, "list", and use the first argument to differentiate between functions (an idea inspired by Krzysztof's xeq object). Here are the functions I imagine: list append - append a list to another list prepend - prepend a list to another list cat - build a list by accumulating elements list serialize - spit out elements of a list one by one list first - output first n elements list last - output last n elements list length - output number of items in list list reverse - permute elements of a list back to front list pack - synonym for 'pack' list unpack - synonym for 'unpack' list selector - change selector of a list list <no args> - "prepend" the selector list to non-list messages The "append" option would also play the role of "any" (just bang the left inlet after putting any list in the right). All of these would expect the "list" selector at the head of messages, with the exception of plain "list"; all of them would output "list" messages except "list selector". These would work as follows: --------------------------- list ---------------------------------- in (real message) in (as printed) out (real message) out (as printed) list bang (same) list 1 1 (same) list foo list foo (same) foo foo list foo list foo --------------------------- list selector bar ------------------------- in (real message) in (as printed) out (real message) out (as printed) list bang bar list 1 1 bar 1 list foo list foo bar foo foo foo (error) There's one inconvenience with plain "list" since you can't differentiate "list foo" from "foo" using its output; you'd have to use "route list symbol" first and then do whatever you wanted to do differently ("list list foo" for example). It seemed better to leave that to the imagination of programmers, since there seem to be disagreements about it... cheers Miller

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readanysf~ changes
by Georg Holzmann 01 Aug '05

01 Aug '05

Hallo august, devs! I made some changes to your readanysf~: I tried to play a file, when it is opened (and trigger it with the length message) and PD crashed... So I added an additional output message to the 2.outlet, which puts out [opened bang(, when the file is loaded - so it's possible to synchronize it with pd ... I also fixed your output messages (you made a 2 element list as output for length, samplerate, etc. but only with one valid element ...) The changes in main.cpp are attached, and also a modified help patch. Would be cool if you could include this in readanysf~. Thanks, LG Georg PS: do you want to add readanysf to the pd cvs? would be easier to find ... :) --- main.cpp.old 2005-08-01 11:03:37.000000000 +0200 +++ main.cpp 2005-08-01 10:49:43.000000000 +0200 @@ -355,6 +355,15 @@ fifo->Flush (); readsf->Rewind(); setSys (STATE_IDLE, R_PROCESS); + + // Georg Holzmann: + // send [opened bang( to outlet2, so that you can see, + // when the file is opened and ready to play ... + t_atom lst[2]; + SetString (lst[0], "opened"); + SetString (lst[1], "bang"); + ToOutAnything (2, GetSymbol(lst[0]), 1, lst+1); + } else { // Set state to STARTUP at begingin of open and make sure to set // it to IDLE or NOTHING after succesfully opening; @@ -428,6 +437,15 @@ varmutex.Unlock(); setSys (STATE_IDLE, R_PROCESS); fifo->Flush (); + + // Georg Holzmann: + // send [opened bang( to outlet2, so that you can see, + // when the file is opened and ready to play ... + t_atom lst[2]; + SetString (lst[0], "opened"); + SetString (lst[1], "bang"); + ToOutAnything (2, GetSymbol(lst[0]), 1, lst+1); + } else { post("Readanysf:: Couldn't initialize the file/stream!!!, sucks for you dude"); if (readsf != NULL) // safe without locking ??? @@ -526,7 +544,7 @@ if (counttick++ > outtick) { SetString (lst[0], "cache"); SetFloat (lst[1], cachemsg); - ToOutAnything (2, GetSymbol (lst[0]), 2, lst + 1); + ToOutAnything (2, GetSymbol (lst[0]), 1, lst + 1); counttick = 0; } varmutex.Unlock (); @@ -607,10 +625,10 @@ { SetString (lst[0], "length"); SetFloat (lst[1], lengthinseconds); - ToOutAnything (2, GetSymbol (lst[0]), 2, lst + 1); + ToOutAnything (2, GetSymbol (lst[0]), 1, lst + 1); SetString (lst[0], "rate"); SetFloat (lst[1], (float) samplerate); - ToOutAnything (2, GetSymbol (lst[0]), 2, lst + 1); + ToOutAnything (2, GetSymbol (lst[0]), 1, lst + 1); sendout = false; } varmutex.Unlock (); #N canvas 812 201 538 312 10; #X obj 150 223 dac~; #X msg 149 123 play; #X msg 232 123 stop; #X msg 187 123 pause; #X obj 29 25 hsl 100 15 0 15 0 0 empty empty empty -2 -6 0 8 -44926 -1 -1 0 1; #X floatatom 95 40 5 0 0 0 - - -; #X msg 26 45 speed \$1; #X msg 170 41 loop \$1; #X obj 170 25 tgl 15 0 empty empty empty 0 -6 0 8 -44926 -1 -1 0 1 ; #X obj 449 245 bng 15 250 50 0 empty empty empty 0 -6 0 8 -143491 -1 -1; #X obj 214 282 nbx 4 10 -1e+37 1e+37 0 0 empty empty empty 0 -6 0 10 -241291 -1 -1 7.68583 256; #X obj 260 272 nbx 6 10 -1e+37 1e+37 0 0 empty empty empty 0 -6 0 10 -260818 -1 -1 20.0981 256; #X obj 307 259 nbx 5 10 -1e+37 1e+37 0 0 empty empty empty 0 -6 0 10 -260241 -1 -1 44100 256; #X obj 353 245 nbx 7 12 -1e+37 1e+37 0 0 empty empty empty 0 -6 0 10 -259729 -1 -1 0 256; #X msg 21 269 \; pd dsp 1; #X obj 21 244 loadbang; #X obj 149 180 readanysf~; #X obj 53 163 r rany; #X obj 26 72 s rany; #X obj 170 67 s rany; #X msg 253 50 recover 1; #N canvas 153 352 570 425 testfiles 0; #X msg 104 215 open Schnucki.wav; #X msg 43 53 open \$1; #X obj 43 33 openpanel; #X obj 43 15 bng 15 250 50 0 empty empty empty 0 -6 0 8 -262144 -1 -1; #X msg 104 120 open http://fro.at:8008/24k; #X msg 104 196 open Schnucki.ogg; #X msg 104 176 open Schnucki.mp3; #X obj 43 372 s rany; #X msg 104 78 open http://localhost:8000/pd; #X msg 104 140 open http://66.28.68.70:8000/; #X msg 133 344 open http://sinnlos.st/audio/24kbs_blind_tv_100403.mp3 ; #X msg 133 323 open http://212.23.57.33:8010; #X msg 104 236 open Schnucki.fla; #X msg 256 221 open Schnucki.aif; #X connect 0 0 7 0; #X connect 1 0 7 0; #X connect 2 0 1 0; #X connect 3 0 2 0; #X connect 4 0 7 0; #X connect 5 0 7 0; #X connect 6 0 7 0; #X connect 8 0 7 0; #X connect 9 0 7 0; #X connect 10 0 7 0; #X connect 11 0 7 0; #X connect 12 0 7 0; #X connect 13 0 7 0; #X restore 389 31 pd testfiles; #N canvas 0 22 450 300 testseek 0; #X msg 145 167 pcm_seek \$1; #X floatatom 145 147 5 0 0 0 - - -; #X obj 145 192 s rany; #X floatatom 149 60 5 0 0 0 - - -; #X obj 149 99 s rany; #X msg 149 77 time_seek \$1; #X obj 184 147 * 44100; #X msg 145 126 13; #X msg 149 41 13; #X obj 204 124 f; #X obj 208 102 bng 15 250 50 0 empty empty empty 0 -6 0 8 -262144 -1 -1; #X floatatom 240 100 5 0 0 0 - - -; #X msg 268 130 81; #X msg 268 155 19; #X connect 0 0 2 0; #X connect 1 0 6 0; #X connect 3 0 5 0; #X connect 5 0 4 0; #X connect 6 0 0 0; #X connect 7 0 1 0; #X connect 8 0 3 0; #X connect 9 0 6 0; #X connect 10 0 9 0; #X connect 11 0 9 1; #X connect 12 0 1 0; #X connect 13 0 1 0; #X restore 390 61 pd testseek; #X obj 214 223 route float length rate cache opened bang; #X obj 402 265 bng 15 250 50 0 empty empty empty 0 -6 0 8 -258699 -1 -1; #X connect 1 0 16 0; #X connect 2 0 16 0; #X connect 3 0 16 0; #X connect 4 0 5 0; #X connect 4 0 6 0; #X connect 6 0 18 0; #X connect 7 0 19 0; #X connect 8 0 7 0; #X connect 15 0 14 0; #X connect 16 0 0 0; #X connect 16 1 0 1; #X connect 16 2 23 0; #X connect 17 0 16 0; #X connect 20 0 19 0; #X connect 23 0 10 0; #X connect 23 1 11 0; #X connect 23 2 12 0; #X connect 23 3 13 0; #X connect 23 4 24 0; #X connect 23 5 9 0; #N canvas 105 11 865 702 10; #X obj 219 386 readanysf~; #X msg 33 337 stop; #X msg 33 241 open \$1; #X obj 33 220 symbol; #X obj 32 201 openpanel; #X obj 32 146 bng 45 250 50 0 empty empty empty 0 -6 0 8 -258699 -1 -1; #X msg 33 308 pause; #X msg 33 369 play; #X text 649 359 TIME seeking.; #X text 649 376 seeks to seconds of time; #X text 671 446 bang at end of file; #X text 669 460 it won't bang in loop mode; #X obj 549 103 hsl 100 15 0 15 0 0 empty empty empty -2 -6 0 8 -44926 -1 -1 0 1; #X floatatom 615 118 5 0 0 0 - - -; #X msg 546 123 speed \$1; #X msg 34 529 \; pd dsp 1; #X obj 34 507 loadbang; #X msg 546 77 1; #X msg 577 77 2; #X msg 609 77 3; #X obj 546 301 * 44100; #X msg 546 320 pcm_seek \$1; #X obj 546 285 nbx 3 14 0 1e+37 0 0 empty empty empty 0 -6 0 10 -241291 -1 -1 0 256; #X msg 643 77 1.378; #X obj 588 487 bng 15 250 50 0 empty empty empty 0 -6 0 8 -258699 -1 -1; #X text 519 567 length of file in seconds; #X text 545 155 how often to send seconds played; #X text 544 170 to 3rd outlet (relative to blocksize); #X msg 546 370 time_seek \$1; #X obj 546 354 nbx 3 14 0 1e+37 0 0 empty empty empty 0 -6 0 10 -241291 -1 -1 0 256; #X text 641 316 seeks to this frame number.; #X text 642 299 PCM seeking.; #X obj 200 498 catch~ L; #X obj 222 517 catch~ R; #X obj 220 466 throw~ L; #X obj 251 446 throw~ R; #X obj 312 514 env~; #X floatatom 312 532 5 0 0 0 - - -; #X obj 276 534 env~; #X floatatom 276 552 5 0 0 0 - - -; #X obj 200 547 dac~; #X text 550 21 speed adjustment; #X text 550 35 is automatically set; #X text 549 51 to (pd_samplerate/file_samplerate); #X text 613 233 turn looping on/off; #X text 466 593 secs played (+/- .5); #X obj 400 594 nbx 5 20 -1e+37 1e+37 0 0 empty empty empty 0 -6 0 10 -241291 -1 -1 0 256; #N canvas 215 67 473 305 urlhelp 0; #X text 21 195 if you are having troubles with playing the stream \, pause it and wait a few seconds to let the buffer cache fill up. buffer is set to a default of 32kb. same as xmms.; #X text 37 109 openurl mp3 http://webist.com:8000/mount; #X text 34 150 openurl ogg http://webist.com:8000/mount; #X text 20 80 to start a stream open it with:; #X text 112 127 or; #X text 22 30 mp3 and Ogg Vorbis Urls are supported for shoutcast and icecast servers; #X restore 449 25 pd urlhelp; #X text 612 653 readanysf~ (C) august black 2003; #X text 613 671 http://aug.ment.org/readanysf; #X obj 447 566 nbx 5 16 -1e+37 1e+37 0 0 empty empty empty 0 -6 0 10 -260818 -1 -1 0 256; #X msg 277 137 openurl mp3 http://fro.at:8008/24k; #X msg 242 114 openurl mp3 http://bonjour.mp3.at:8000/; #X obj 546 227 tgl 15 0 empty empty empty 0 -6 0 8 -241291 -1 -1 0 1; #X msg 546 243 loop \$1; #X obj 494 542 nbx 5 14 -1e+37 1e+37 0 0 empty empty empty 0 -6 0 10 -260241 -1 -1 0 256; #X obj 541 519 nbx 7 12 -1e+37 1e+37 0 0 empty empty empty 0 -6 0 10 -259729 -1 -1 0 256; #X text 559 542 samperate; #X msg 546 188 set_tick 100; #X text 32 104 !!!!!!!!!!; #X text 32 120 START HERE; #X msg 172 78 openurl ogg http://radiostudio.org:8000/streaps_broadband.ogg ; #X text 625 521 amount of cache used; #X text 654 532 for http streams; #X msg 95 55 openurl ogg http://radiostudio.org:8000/free_radio_linux.ogg ; #X obj 400 428 route float length rate cache opened bang; #X obj 635 452 bng 15 250 50 0 empty empty empty 0 -6 0 8 -143491 -1 -1; #X text 613 481 bang when file is loaded \, so; #X text 612 494 you can trigger play now; #X connect 0 0 34 0; #X connect 0 1 35 0; #X connect 0 2 65 0; #X connect 1 0 0 0; #X connect 2 0 0 0; #X connect 3 0 2 0; #X connect 4 0 3 0; #X connect 5 0 4 0; #X connect 6 0 0 0; #X connect 7 0 0 0; #X connect 12 0 13 0; #X connect 12 0 14 0; #X connect 14 0 0 0; #X connect 16 0 15 0; #X connect 17 0 12 0; #X connect 18 0 12 0; #X connect 19 0 12 0; #X connect 20 0 21 0; #X connect 21 0 0 0; #X connect 22 0 20 0; #X connect 23 0 12 0; #X connect 28 0 0 0; #X connect 29 0 28 0; #X connect 32 0 40 0; #X connect 32 0 36 0; #X connect 33 0 40 1; #X connect 33 0 38 0; #X connect 36 0 37 0; #X connect 38 0 39 0; #X connect 51 0 0 0; #X connect 52 0 0 0; #X connect 53 0 54 0; #X connect 54 0 0 0; #X connect 58 0 0 0; #X connect 61 0 0 0; #X connect 64 0 0 0; #X connect 65 0 46 0; #X connect 65 1 50 0; #X connect 65 2 55 0; #X connect 65 3 56 0; #X connect 65 4 24 0; #X connect 65 5 66 0;

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help -> html ... bug
by Tim Blechmann 01 Aug '05

01 Aug '05

hi miller, hi tcl devs ... there are two problems when using menu->help->html ... if firefox isn't running, it starts, but i get a lovely tk error window: No running windows found No running windows found while executing "exec sh -c [format "firefox file:%s || mozilla file:%s &\n" $filename $filename]" (procedure "menu_openhtml" line 5) invoked from within "menu_openhtml $dirname/$basename" (procedure "menu_doc_open" line 9) invoked from within "menu_doc_open doc/1.manual index.htm" invoked from within ".#mbar.#mbar#help invoke active" ("uplevel" body line 1) invoked from within "uplevel #0 [list $w invoke active]" (procedure "tk::MenuInvoke" line 50) invoked from within "tk::MenuInvoke .#mbar.#mbar#help 1" (command bound to event) (well, this is basically correct, since i'm not running windows :) thinks are getting more ugly, if i'm running pd as sudo application: No running windows found Error launching firefox: There are files in your profile that are owned by a user other than root. firefox can't execute in this condition. Here are some of the files that I found: /home/tim/.mozilla/firefox /home/tim/.mozilla/firefox/77pzurz3.default /home/tim/.mozilla/firefox/77pzurz3.default/88581930.s /home/tim/.mozilla/firefox/77pzurz3.default/Cache /home/tim/.mozilla/firefox/77pzurz3.default/Cache/27F9E723d01 /home/tim/.mozilla/firefox/77pzurz3.default/Cache/640505B4d01 /home/tim/.mozilla/firefox/77pzurz3.default/Cache/7FF77D9Ad01 /home/tim/.mozilla/firefox/77pzurz3.default/Cache/ABC726BDd01 /home/tim/.mozilla/firefox/77pzurz3.default/Cache/D9747808d01 /home/tim/.mozilla/firefox/77pzurz3.default/Cache/EA53F4C8d01 ... You can fix this problem by running the following: su -c 'chown -R root:root /home/tim/.mozilla' sh: mozilla: command not found No running windows found Error launching firefox: There are files in your profile that are owned by a user other than root. firefox can't execute in this condition. Here are some of the files that I found: /home/tim/.mozilla/firefox /home/tim/.mozilla/firefox/77pzurz3.default /home/tim/.mozilla/firefox/77pzurz3.default/88581930.s /home/tim/.mozilla/firefox/77pzurz3.default/Cache /home/tim/.mozilla/firefox/77pzurz3.default/Cache/27F9E723d01 /home/tim/.mozilla/firefox/77pzurz3.default/Cache/640505B4d01 /home/tim/.mozilla/firefox/77pzurz3.default/Cache/7FF77D9Ad01 /home/tim/.mozilla/firefox/77pzurz3.default/Cache/ABC726BDd01 /home/tim/.mozilla/firefox/77pzurz3.default/Cache/D9747808d01 /home/tim/.mozilla/firefox/77pzurz3.default/Cache/EA53F4C8d01 ... You can fix this problem by running the following: su -c 'chown -R root:root /home/tim/.mozilla' sh: mozilla: command not found while executing "exec sh -c [format "firefox file:%s || mozilla file:%s &\n" $filename $filename]" (procedure "menu_openhtml" line 5) invoked from within "menu_openhtml $dirname/$basename" (procedure "menu_doc_open" line 9) invoked from within "menu_doc_open doc/1.manual index.htm" invoked from within ".#mbar.#mbar#help invoke active" ("uplevel" body line 1) invoked from within "uplevel #0 [list $w invoke active]" (procedure "tk::MenuInvoke" line 50) invoked from within "tk::MenuInvoke .#mbar.#mbar#help 1" (command bound to event) ... this can be left as user bug / firefox bug / firefox configuration issue ... cheers ... tim -- mailto:TimBlechmann@gmx.de ICQ: 96771783 http://www.mokabar.tk latest mp3: kMW.mp3 http://mattin.org/mp3.html latest cd: Goh Lee Kwang & Tim Blechmann: Drone http://www.geocities.com/gohleekwangtimblechmannduo/ After one look at this planet any visitor from outer space would say "I want to see the manager." William S. Burroughs

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