Pd-dev July 2005

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get and set work on symbols
by Miller Puckette 30 Jul '05

30 Jul '05

Forgot to mention earlier... I lost the email, but someone asked after 'get' and 'set' for symbol fields... this is done in CVS. Also "drawsymbol" now works. cheers Miller

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[ pure-data-Patches-1244757 ] {open, save}panel with settable path
by SourceForge.net 29 Jul '05

29 Jul '05

Patches item #1244757, was opened at 2005-07-25 22:26 Message generated for change (Tracker Item Submitted) made by Item Submitter You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478072&aid=1244757&group_… Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: puredata Group: None Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Submitted By: IOhannes m zmÃ¶lnig (zmoelnig) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: {open,save}panel with settable path Initial Comment: this patch (against the current 25/07/2005) HEAD of the CVS (pd-0.39test4) allows the current path of [openpanel]/[savepanel] to be set. once the path is set, it will not change anymore "automatically"; however, this patch gives even more wird tcl/tk output about "unknown commands" than the unpatched version does. there is clearly some bug in the u_main.tk ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478072&aid=1244757&group_…

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[ pure-data-Feature Requests-1246987 ] [route] chops [float 1 2 3( without a warning
by SourceForge.net 28 Jul '05

28 Jul '05

Feature Requests item #1246987, was opened at 2005-07-28 14:24 Message generated for change (Tracker Item Submitted) made by Item Submitter You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478073&aid=1246987&group_… Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: None Group: None Status: Open Priority: 1 Submitted By: Hans-Christoph Steiner (eighthave) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: [route] chops [float 1 2 3( without a warning Initial Comment: When sending a float message with more that one element (i.e. [float 1 2 3( to [route float], all elements besides the first get discarded without a warning. A warning message would be nice to have. While this isn't absolutely necessary, I think it could potentially be quite helpful when debugging certain patches. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478073&aid=1246987&group_…

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pdp, 3dp crashing problems
by we are 26 Jul '05

26 Jul '05

hi crew i've been running pd in various different versions lately (dev_38, dev_39, official 39test-4 and official 38). i used to used pdp quite a lot and had very few problems with it. then, a system crash and i had to start all over. now pdp crashes quite a lot. everytime i close a 3dp window the entire thing seg faults. and after a while of pidip useage, the whole thing freezes and the gui becomes useless. i am running debian(demudi) with mostly binary packages,pdp 12.4, but not every thing. also xorg and the meltimedia LSM i686 smp kernel that comes with demudi. i am currently suspecting that it may have something to do with the real-time priorities that are been used. in the past i have found similar symptoms when running pdp, gem and 3dp with -rt.....so this time i am running it with -nrt....alas this is making no difference at all. also, i had similar problems running pdp, gem, 3dp with audio and midi so now i run with -noaudio and -nomidi...alas this makes no difference at all. when i close pd it says "closing audio", "closing midi"...i also have the ability to test audio despite this flag? does this mean audio is running or not. at the moment i am stumpt. i really want to get my lovely pdp, 3dp patches back on the stage but something is stopping me :( regards t

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Re: [PD] widgets and/or patch half-drawing
by cdr 26 Jul '05

26 Jul '05

> >>>i've a new question. Can I use a jpg or something to put a background > >>>image in my patch? > with you to get it included in the distros. Ideally, they could be > set up to work like externals as much as possible. they work like externals, if you have tk8.5 + libs + X11, but theres some problems outside my ballpark - on windows and OSX, [winfo width] will return 0 if called right after the drawing commands, unless an 'update' is issued, but this creates a new bug - the rest of the patch doesnt draw. i think this is related to the numboxes-not-updating bug, messages from the server side are lost into the ether.. im not going to bother tracking it down as it will hopefully go away when the gui is rewritten :D

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bug with [editmode( message?
by Hans-Christoph Steiner 26 Jul '05

26 Jul '05

So I just noticed a possible bug in the [editmode( message. If you send a patch [editmode 1(, it always turns on edit mode. If you send a patch [editmode( or [editmode 0(, toggles edit mode. It would be handy if [editmode 0( turned off edit mode. [editmode( could still toggle then. .hc ________________________________________________________________________ ____ "Terrorism is not an enemy. It cannot be defeated. It's a tactic. It's about as sensible to say we declare war on night attacks and expect we're going to win that war. We're not going to win the war on terrorism." - retired U.S. Army general, William Odom

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[ pure-data-Patches-1204294 ] Jack/TclTk/pdtcl build fixes on Mac OS X
by SourceForge.net 25 Jul '05

25 Jul '05

Patches item #1204294, was opened at 2005-05-18 09:51 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by eighthave You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478072&aid=1204294&group_… Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: puredata Group: bugfix Status: Open >Resolution: Remind Priority: 7 Submitted By: Hans-Christoph Steiner (eighthave) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: Jack/TclTk/pdtcl build fixes on Mac OS X Initial Comment: This patch allows the Pd.app to be built with Jack support on Mac OS X and it looks for the TclTk Frameworks first in the standalone Wish Shell.app then in the standard location (/Library/Frameworks). ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >Comment By: Hans-Christoph Steiner (eighthave) Date: 2005-07-24 22:02 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=27104 MACOSX_DEPLOYMENT_TARGET=10.2 is necessary on Mac OS X to support weak linking of frameworks. Since its just a environment variable, it should be safely ignored on other platforms. The included patch assumes that the darwin_linking_fixes.patch has already been applied. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Hans-Christoph Steiner (eighthave) Date: 2005-06-06 20:21 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=27104 I figured out how to make the Jack.framework dependency optional. Apple calls it "weak libraries", aka "soft imports". To make it work for Jack, change the two lines in configure.in from "-framework Jack" to "-weak_framework Jack". Ideally, Pd would then test to see if Jack is available before switching to it, otherwise it'll just crash. Here's apple's method of testing: http://developer.apple.com/documentation/mac/runtimehtml/RTArch-43.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Hans-Christoph Steiner (eighthave) Date: 2005-05-22 01:53 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=27104 - allows the Pd.app to be built with Jack support on Mac OS X. - fixed linking problem that caused bunk builds with Tcl/Tk newer than 8.4.4 - configure now looks for the Tcl and Tk frameworks - pdtcl renamed to libPdTcl.dylib according to Mac OS X standard ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478072&aid=1204294&group_…

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Re: [PD-dev] ann in cvs
by Georg Holzmann 22 Jul '05

22 Jul '05

Hallo! > Sorry for the delay, I was in Rome (yes, a kind of vacation) No problem ... :) > all your suggestions are more than welcome, fell free to work on the cvs > yourself to add new features okay, thanks > I want to give ann_mlp (and ann_td) a function for each of these fann > functions: > http://leenissen.dk/fann/html/x938.html Yes, would be cool - so I will make a header file for these two externals, then you don't have to implement it twice ... > about the path issue (in the private email you sent me): I agree that > paths should be relative.. change at will or point me some code I could > look at to get relative paths.. I will do ... LG Georg -- GMX DSL = Maximale Leistung zum minimalen Preis! 2000 MB nur 2,99, Flatrate ab 4,99 Euro/Monat: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/dsl

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ann in cvs
by Georg Holzmann 22 Jul '05

22 Jul '05

Hallo IOhannse, davide! I only wanted to ask if I am allowed to make some changes to the ann library in cvs (to ann_mlp and ann_td), because I just used it and had to change some things: some bug fixes, more features, a bit of code-restructuring (ann_td and ann_mlp are uses the same methods, but they are coded twice identically), performance (they always iterate over MAXOUTPUT ...), better help patches, more examples ... I also tried to contact davide privately, but it seems that he is on holiday ... Thanks, LG Georg -- GMX DSL = Maximale Leistung zum minimalen Preis! 2000 MB nur 2,99, Flatrate ab 4,99 Euro/Monat: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/dsl

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Re: [PD-dev] proposed new "list" object
by Georg Holzmann 22 Jul '05

22 Jul '05

Hallo! > list append - append a list to another > list prepend - prepend a list to another > list cat - build a list by accumulating elements > list serialize - spit out elements of a list one by one > list first - output first n elements > list last - output last n elements > list length - output number of items in list > list reverse - permute elements of a list back to front > list pack - synonym for 'pack' > list unpack - synonym for 'unpack' > list selector - change selector of a list > list <no args> - "prepend" the selector list to non-list messages just some more suggestions (these objects are often the reason why I have to use externals in simple patches): 1) a storage object for lists would also be useful in main-pd (like "lister" from zexy - maybe the easiest way would be to make a 2.inlet at the "list" object (to have the same behaviour as "symbol" or "float" ...) ? 2) get a specific element from a list (like "packel" from zexy) - so it's easier to handle dynamic length list (if you know which atoms you want and don't know the exact length) don't know a good name, maybe "list get" or "list packel" (IOhannes: why packel?) (also I don't if it is a good idea to count the elements from 1 and not from 0 - like in packel ...) -> maybe also a "list set", where you can set a specific element in a list without unpack - repack everything (which is not possible if you don't know the exact size ...) > All of these would expect the "list" selector at the head of messages, with > the exception of plain "list"; all of them would output "list" messages except > "list selector". These would work as follows: Hm - I see, but what is the advantage of only handle messages with list-selector (beside that you can use the name "list" for the objects ... :) ? This means you often have to: | [list] - add a list selector | do something like [list reverse] | [list selector] - remove again the list selector | (should it also be possible to remove the list selector at all with "list selector" ?) But, just some thoughts ... LG Georg -- GMX DSL = Maximale Leistung zum minimalen Preis! 2000 MB nur 2,99, Flatrate ab 4,99 Euro/Monat: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/dsl

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