Pd-dev November 2004

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[ pure-data-Bugs-1072767 ] "flags" key in plist not read in pd.38-test10.app
by SourceForge.net 24 Nov '04

24 Nov '04

Bugs item #1072767, was opened at 2004-11-24 15:39 Message generated for change (Tracker Item Submitted) made by Item Submitter You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478070&aid=1072767&group_… Category: puredata Group: None Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Submitted By: B. Bogart (bbogart) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: "flags" key in plist not read in pd.38-test10.app Initial Comment: The flags set in the "flags" key of the plist are not passed to pd. eg: typing -font 100 in the startup-flags feild gives us a pd still using font 12. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478070&aid=1072767&group_…

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[ pure-data-Bugs-1072766 ] "path..." settings create garbage plists pd.38-test10 (.app
by SourceForge.net 24 Nov '04

24 Nov '04

Bugs item #1072766, was opened at 2004-11-24 15:37 Message generated for change (Tracker Item Submitted) made by Item Submitter You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478070&aid=1072766&group_… Category: None Group: None Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Submitted By: B. Bogart (bbogart) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: "path..." settings create garbage plists pd.38-test10 (.app Initial Comment: The information entered in "path..." path? gets garbled before it ends up in the plist: <key>path1</key> <string>2ÂªÂ«Â§</string> toggles seem to work fine. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478070&aid=1072766&group_…

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[ pure-data-Bugs-1072765 ] .printout.text: no such object in console for pd.38-test10
by SourceForge.net 24 Nov '04

24 Nov '04

Bugs item #1072765, was opened at 2004-11-24 15:35 Message generated for change (Tracker Item Submitted) made by Item Submitter You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478070&aid=1072765&group_… Category: puredata Group: None Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Submitted By: B. Bogart (bbogart) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: .printout.text: no such object in console for pd.38-test10 Initial Comment: When Copying in console widget: (Apple-C) error: .printout.text: no such object ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478070&aid=1072765&group_…

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[ pure-data-Bugs-1072763 ] .gfxstub41d8c0.f?: no such object in console w/ pd.38-test10
by SourceForge.net 24 Nov '04

24 Nov '04

Bugs item #1072763, was opened at 2004-11-24 15:33 Message generated for change (Tracker Item Submitted) made by Item Submitter You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478070&aid=1072763&group_… Category: puredata Group: None Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Submitted By: B. Bogart (bbogart) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: .gfxstub41d8c0.f?: no such object in console w/ pd.38-test10 Initial Comment: When pasting (Apple-V) into "pd search path entry boxes": error: .gfxstub41d8c0.f?: no such object Where "?" is 0-9 corrseponding to the entry field ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478070&aid=1072763&group_…

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[Fwd: pd .38 test 10 on OSX (.app)]
by B. Bogart 24 Nov '04

24 Nov '04

whoops, wrong list... ---------------------------- Original Message ---------------------------- Subject: pd .38 test 10 on OSX (.app) From: "B. Bogart" <ben(a)ekran.org> Date: Wed, November 24, 2004 1:48 pm To: gem-dev(a)iem.at -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hey Miller and all, I decided to try test 10 on OSX and see if the "path" stuff has been fixed. Unfortunatly it seems much less functional than before. Here are a few notes: * When pasting (Apple-V) into "pd search path entry boxes": error: .gfxstub41d8c0.f?: no such object Where "?" is 0-9 corrseponding to the entry field * When Copying in console widget: (Apple-C) error: .printout.text: no such object The fun stuff: When I add a few things to the path requester and press save and then ok I get a plist that has anything but correct values for the paths. When opening the path requestor again (without closing pd) indeed the paths we added are gone, and in their place only the first feild contains "0" and nothing more (nothing in the other fields either). The plist itself contains only this path: <key>path1</key> <string>2ÂªÂ«Â§</string> Looks like something is really quite wrong with the plist creation. (more wrong than in test7) so after a hunch I decided to try creating my own plist for test 10 without using the "path" requester at all. The result? Perfectly loading libs. So it looks like the problems with test 10 are specific to how the variables in the path (and startup) requesters. I also tired loading my working plist from test 10 into test 7 and indeed it does not load the libs, so thanks for fixing the plist parsing in test 10! Ok so now I'm going to make my own working plist for test 10 and things will be looking up! also even test 10 still complains: "error pasing RC arguments" even when it is loading paths and libs properly. Hope this helps with test11, B.

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A little more on pd-0.38-test10.app
by B. Bogart 24 Nov '04

24 Nov '04

Hey all, After getting my own plist working I realized that there seems to be one thing in the plist that test10 is ignoring, and that is the "flags" key. The string inside the flags key is not run as pd flags. I verified with "-font 100" as the string. The rest seems to be working ok... will future versions of this .app include the new QD tk by James Tittle? I've been using it for about a year now and its really hard to go back to looking at non-anti-aliased text!!! Font sizes around 9 look pretty unreadable. Also I realized that just like .pdrc we can only have one plist for pd. this is a pain for me since I need to have multiple sets of flags going. Perhaps the plist itself could contain sub-trees that store values for different configs? Each config could even have a name, and in the "path" or "startup" (I'm a little confused why these are seperated actually) you could have a popup box for each of the configurations in the plist. I'll post this to the feature request tracker while its on my mind. Thanks Ben

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A little more on pd-0.38-test10.app
by B. Bogart 24 Nov '04

24 Nov '04

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devel_0_38 / linux
by Thomas Grill 24 Nov '04

24 Nov '04

Hi, some observations: - the configure.in script is broken for jack support. Also the gcc -mtune options is obviously not supported by all gcc versions/platforms (use -march instead). A fixed configure.in is attached (i can't check in at the moment, would someone please do for me?) - with --enable-simd (on P4) the FFT examples like pvoc are silent, although the normal test tone patch is working as expected. Enabling/disabling FFTW support has no effect on that. - the threaded soundfiler can't launch its thread when pd is started as "pd -rt" as a normal user. - "pd -alsa" is always crashing (segmentation fault) when selecting devices in the user dialog. best greetings, Thomas dnl Process this file with autoconf to produce a configure script. AC_INIT(d_arithmetic.c) AC_SUBST(binarymode, -m755) AC_SUBST(MORECFLAGS) AC_SUBST(EXT) AC_SUBST(DEFS) AC_SUBST(OPT_CFLAGS) AC_SUBST(SYSSRC) AC_SUBST(STRIPFLAG) AC_SUBST(GUINAME) AC_SUBST(GUIFLAGS) AC_SUBST(OSNUMBER) AC_SUBST(EXTERNTARGET) AC_SUBST(CC) AC_SUBST(PDLIB) dnl other defaults AC_PROG_CC AC_PROG_INSTALL AC_PROG_MAKE_SET AC_PROG_CPP dnl Checks for typedefs, structures, and compiler characteristics. AC_C_CONST AC_TYPE_PID_T AC_TYPE_SIZE_T AC_HEADER_TIME dnl Checks for header files. AC_HEADER_STDC AC_CHECK_HEADERS(fcntl.h limits.h malloc.h sys/ioctl.h sys/time.h unistd.h bstring.h) dnl Checks for library functions. AC_PROG_GCC_TRADITIONAL AC_TYPE_SIGNAL AC_FUNC_VPRINTF AC_CHECK_FUNCS(gettimeofday select socket strerror) dnl Checks for libraries. AC_CHECK_LIB(dl, dlopen, , echo "dynamic link support required" || exit 1) AC_CHECK_LIB(m, sin, , echo "math library required" || exit 1) AC_CHECK_LIB(pthread, pthread_create, , echo "pthreads required" || exit 1) dnl check for features AC_ARG_ENABLE(alsa, [ --disable-alsa disable ALSA], alsa="no", alsa="yes") AC_ARG_ENABLE(jack, [ --enable-jack jack audio server], jack=$enableval, jack=no) AC_ARG_ENABLE(portaudio, [ --enable-portaudio portaudio], portaudio=$enableval,portaudio=no) AC_ARG_ENABLE(debug, [ --enable-debug debugging support], USE_DEBUG=$enableval,USE_DEBUG=no) AC_ARG_ENABLE(static, [ --enable-static link statically], LDFLAGS="$LDFLAGS -static") AC_ARG_ENABLE(setuid, [ --enable-setuid install as setuid (linux)], setuid=yes) AC_ARG_ENABLE(fftw, [ --enable-fftw fftw3 support], AC_CHECK_LIB(fftw3f,fftwf_plan_dft_r2c_1d)) AC_ARG_ENABLE(icc, [ --enable-icc icc support], CC=icc; icc=yes) AC_ARG_ENABLE(optimize, [ --enable-optimize enables optimized builds for: pentium4, pentium3, G4, G5], optimize=$enableval, MORECFLAGS=$MORECFLAGS" -DDONTUSESIMD") AC_ARG_ENABLE(simd, [ --enable-simd use SIMD code (default=no)], simdcode=$enableval, MORECFLAGS=$MORECFLAGS" -DDONTUSESIMD") AC_ARG_ENABLE(threadedgui, [ --enable-threadedgui use yves degoyon's threaded gui patch], MORECFLAGS=$MORECFLAGS" -DTHREADED_GUI") AC_ARG_ENABLE(threadedsf, [ --enable-threadedsf use threaded soundfiler], MORECFLAGS=$MORECFLAGS" -DTHREADED_SF -DGARRAY_THREAD_LOCK -D_GNU_SOURCE") AC_ARG_ENABLE(gathreadlocks, [ --enable-gathreadlocks t_garray threadlock], MORECFLAGS=$MORECFLAGS" -DGARRAY_THREAD_LOCK -D_GNU_SOURCE") dnl Find paths to includes and libraries for X11 AC_PATH_X LIBS="$LIBS -L$x_libraries" dnl Checking for `XCreateWindow' function in -lX11: AC_CHECK_LIB(X11, XCreateWindow, , echo "no X11 found" || exit 1, -L$x_libraries) dnl look for tcl 8.x... tcllib="" AC_CHECK_LIB(tcl8.7, main,tcllib=tcl8.7, AC_CHECK_LIB(tcl8.6, main,tcllib=tcl8.6, AC_CHECK_LIB(tcl8.5, main,tcllib=tcl8.5, AC_CHECK_LIB(tcl8.4, main,tcllib=tcl8.4, AC_CHECK_LIB(tcl8.3, main,tcllib=tcl8.3, AC_CHECK_LIB(tcl8.2, main,tcllib=tcl8.2, AC_CHECK_LIB(tcl8.0, main,tcllib=tcl8.0,echo no tcl library found || exit 1))))))) LIBS="$LIBS -l$tcllib" tklib=${tcllib/tcl/tk} AC_CHECK_LIB($tklib, main,,echo no tk library found || exit 1) foundit=no AC_CHECK_HEADER(tcl.h,foundit=yes) if test "$foundit" = "no"; then AC_CHECK_HEADER($tcllib/tcl.h, GUIFLAGS="$GUIFLAGS -I/usr/include/$tcllib", [echo no tcl header found];exit -1) fi if test x$jack == xyes; then AC_CHECK_LIB(rt,shm_open) AC_CHECK_LIB(jack,jack_set_error_function) AC_CHECK_LIB(jack,jack_set_xrun_callback, MORECFLAGS="$MORECFLAGS -DJACK_XRUN" ) SYSSRC=$SYSSRC" s_audio_jack.c" MORECFLAGS="$MORECFLAGS -DUSEAPI_JACK" PDLIB="$PDLIB -ljack" fi if test `uname -s` == Linux; then dnl Ckecking for ALSA echo .................... alsa= $alsa dnl This should be fixed so Pd can use ALSA shared libraries where appropriate. if test x$alsa == xyes; then AC_CHECK_LIB(asound,snd_pcm_info,PDLIB="$PDLIB -lasound" ; alsa="yes",alsa="no") fi dnl Set processor flags if test "$icc" == "yes"; then if test "$optimize" == "pentium4"; then ARCH_CFLAGS="-xN -ip -ipo_obj" fi if test "$optimize" == "pentium3"; then ARCH_CFLAGS="-xK -ip -ipo_obj" fi else if test "$optimize" == "pentium4"; then ARCH_CFLAGS="-march=pentium4 -mmmx -msse -msse2 -mfpmath=sse" fi if test "$optimize" == "pentium3"; then ARCH_CFLAGS="-march=pentium3 -mmmx -msse -mfpmath=sse" fi if test "$optimize" == "pentium2"; then ARCH_CFLAGS="-march=pentium2 -mmmx"; MORECFLAGS=$MORECFLAGS" -DDONTUSESIMD" fi if test "$optimize" == "pentium"; then ARCH_CFLAGS="-march=pentium" MORECFLAGS=$MORECFLAGS" -DDONTUSESIMD" fi fi LDFLAGS="$LDFLAGS -Wl,-export-dynamic" EXT=pd_linux MORECFLAGS=$MORECFLAGS" -DPA_USE_OSS -DPA_LITTLE_ENDIAN -DUNIX -DUNISTD -DUNIX -DUNISTDo\ -DUSEAPI_OSS \ -I../portaudio/pa_common -I../portaudio/pablio \ -I../portaudio/portmidi-macosx \ -fno-strict-aliasing" SYSSRC=$SYSSRC" s_midi_oss.c s_audio_oss.c" if test x$alsa == "xyes"; then SYSSRC=$SYSSRC" s_audio_alsa.c s_audio_alsamm.c" MORECFLAGS=$MORECFLAGS" -DPA_USE_ALSA -DUSEAPI_ALSA" LDFLAGS=$LDFLAGS" -lasound" fi if test x$portaudio == "xyes"; then MORECFLAGS=$MORECFLAGS" -DUSEAPI_PORTAUDIO -DPA19"$MORECFLAGS SYSSRC=$SYSSRC" s_audio_pa.c \ s_audio_pablio.c \ s_audio_paring.c \ ../portaudio/pa_common/pa_allocation.c \ ../portaudio/pa_common/pa_converters.c \ ../portaudio/pa_common/pa_cpuload.c \ ../portaudio/pa_common/pa_dither.c \ ../portaudio/pa_common/pa_front.c \ ../portaudio/pa_common/pa_process.c \ ../portaudio/pa_common/pa_skeleton.c \ ../portaudio/pa_common/pa_stream.c \ ../portaudio/pa_common/pa_trace.c \ ../portaudio/pa_unix/pa_unix_hostapis.c \ ../portaudio/pa_unix/pa_unix_util.c \ ../portaudio/pa_unix_oss/pa_unix_oss.c " if test x$alsa == "xyes"; then SYSSRC=$SYSSRC" ../portaudio/pa_linux_alsa/pa_linux_alsa.c" MORECFLAGS=$MORECFLAGS" -Wno-error" fi fi if test x$setuid == "xyes"; then binarymode="-m4755" fi STRIPFLAG=-s GUINAME="pd-gui" if test x$USE_DEBUG == "xyes"; then OPT_CFLAGS="-g" else if test "$icc" = "yes"; then OPT_CFLAGS=$ARCH_CFLAGS" -O3" else OPT_CFLAGS=$ARCH_CFLAGS" -O3 -funroll-loops -fomit-frame-pointer" fi fi dnl we have to add the OPT_CFLAGS to the LD_FLAGS to make sure that icc dnl links with the right libraries - timblechmann(a)gmx.de if test "$icc" = "yes"; then LDFLAGS=$LDFLAGS" "$OPT_CFLAGS fi echo OPT_CFLAGS --------------- $OPT_CFLAGS OSNUMBER=0 fi if test `uname -s` == Darwin; then LDFLAGS=$LDFLAGS" -Wl -framework CoreAudio \ -framework AudioUnit -framework AudioToolbox \ -framework Carbon -framework CoreMIDI" EXT=pd_darwin MORECFLAGS=$MORECFLAGS" -DMACOSX -DUNISTD -I/usr/X11R6/include \ -I../portaudio_v18/pa_common -I../portaudio_v18/pablio \ -I../portmidi_osx \ -Wno-error \ -DUSEAPI_PORTAUDIO -DPA_BIG_ENDIAN" SYSSRC=$SYSSRC" s_midi_pm.c s_audio_pa.c s_audio_pablio.c s_audio_paring.c \ ../portaudio/pa_common/pa_lib.c \ ../portaudio/pa_common/pa_trace.c \ ../portaudio/pa_common/pa_convert.c \ ../portaudio/pa_mac_core/pa_mac_core.c \ ../portmidi_osx/pmdarwin.c \ ../portmidi_osx/pmmacosx.c \ ../portmidi_osx/pmutil.c \ ../portmidi_osx/portmidi.c \ ../portmidi_osx/ptdarwin.c " STRIPFLAG="" GUINAME="pdtcl" GUIFLAGS="-F../../Frameworks -framework Tcl -framework Tk \ -I../../Frameworks/Tk.framework/Versions/Current/Headers \ -I../../Frameworks/Tcl.framework/Versions/Current/Headers \ -I../../Frameworks/Tcl.framework/Versions/8.4/PrivateHeaders" if test x$USE_DEBUG == "xyes"; then OPT_CFLAGS="-g" else OPT_CFLAGS="-O3" fi OSNUMBER=2 EXTERNTARGET=pd_darwin dnl Set processor flags if test "$optimize" == "G3"; then OPT_CFLAGS=$OPT_CFLAGS" -mtune=G3 -mcpu=G3 -malign-natural" fi if test "$optimize" == "G4"; then OPT_CFLAGS=$OPT_CFLAGS" -mtune=G4 -mcpu=G4 -maltivec -malign-natural" fi if test "$optimize" == "G5"; then OPT_CFLAGS=$OPT_CFLAGS" -march=G5 -cpu=G5 -maltivec -malign-natural" fi dnl Enable SIMD instructions if test "$simdcode" == "yes"; then OPT_CFLAGS=$OPT_CFLAGS" -faltivec" fi fi # extra flags for alpha machines if test `uname -m | awk '{print $1}'` = alpha; then MORECFLAGS=$MORECFLAGS" -mieee -mcpu=ev56" fi # test for compaq compiler---not sure what this does or how to test it. if test x$CC == xccc; then MORECFLAGS=$MORECFLAGS" -g3 -D__COMPAQC__ -arch host" fi dnl test for xmmintrin.h header file CFLAGS=$OPT_CFLAGS AC_TRY_COMPILE([#]include "xmmintrin.h", ,MORECFLAGS=$MORECFLAGS" -DDAZ",) AC_OUTPUT(makefile)

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[ pure-data-Feature Requests-1067575 ] dynamic importing of externals and name spaces
by SourceForge.net 21 Nov '04

21 Nov '04

Feature Requests item #1067575, was opened at 2004-11-16 11:08 Message generated for change (Tracker Item Submitted) made by Item Submitter You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478073&aid=1067575&group_… Category: None Group: None Status: Open Priority: 5 Submitted By: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: dynamic importing of externals and name spaces Initial Comment: i would like to import internals dynamically inside a Pd patch. ; pd import externalname ; pd import directory/externalname ; pd import ../externalname ====================================== name spaces for externals would be nice, too ; pd import externalname which gives you externalname.object1 externalname.object2 externalname.object3 ; pd importwithoutnamespace externalname which gives you object1 object2 object3 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478073&aid=1067575&group_…

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libpd blues
by Tom Schouten 21 Nov '04

21 Nov '04

hi all, i'm libifying pd and ran into some problems. i decided to jump to the problem uninformed, as usual, so.. :)) my goal is to have a (gui-less) pd as a callback in another program. currently i'm happy if it just runs in packet forth as part of the VM zoo. it should 'behave' in a sense that it should not execute any blocking calls, and leave the time keeping to the host program. the idea is that m_scheduler_tick() is called for each 64 audio sample block, and all the other things that need to be done should be executed in this tick method. i got most of it running, only the time keeping seems to do something else than i think it does. this is what i sort of works for me: -- in m_sched.c, i reduced the scheduler to: void m_scheduler_init(void){ sys_time_per_dsp_tick = (TIMEUNITPERSEC) * ((double)sys_schedblocksize) / sys_dacsr; post("timeunitspersec = %f", (float)TIMEUNITPERSEC); post("sys_schedblocksize = %f", (float)sys_schedblocksize); post("sys_dacsr = %f", (float)sys_dacsr); sys_clearhist(); // not used sys_initmidiqueue(); // not used } int m_scheduler_tick(void){ sys_setmiditimediff(0, 1e-6 * sys_schedadvance); sched_tick(sys_time + sys_time_per_dsp_tick * 8.0); sys_pollmidiqueue(); sys_microsleep(1); // poll file descriptors } -- when i link libpd to pd.c (mini-pd host) using this: int main(int argc, char **argv) { int retval; if ((retval = sys_main(argc, argv))) return retval; m_scheduler_init(); while(1){ m_scheduler_tick(); //usleep(1); } } -- i added a new audio driver, which is just fills in some values to keep pd happy, but the scheduler does not call send_dacs. (the idea is that the tick method does the sys_soundin -> sys_soundout step) now, the strange things are: * the 8.0 i needed to add in m_scheduler_tick() maybe there's a global variable i missed somewhere? * sys_microsleep(1) works, but sys_microsleep(0) does not this seems strange, since it only polls? * if i add the usleep in main(), timing is off again. this seems completely strange to me all very distorted and i'm probably missing something obvious.. so, the question is: how do i update pd time properly if i run pd synchronous by calling something like m_scheduler_tick() ? cheers tom

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