Pd-dev January 2004

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Re: [PD-dev] Pd Console
by Mathieu Bouchard 26 Jan '04

26 Jan '04

On Sun, 25 Jan 2004, Frank Barknecht wrote: > Nice idea, and I think, useful in the future. I assume this was meant as a reply to the list; I hope you don't mind. > I hope, it does not lead to interrupts in the audio chain on larger > post()'s? Yes it does, like pretty much any heavy activity involving a communication between pd and pd-gui. Today I tried tweaking sys_gui() in a way that makes it go smoother. Somehow I can't get it to work with fdopen()/fwrite() buffering, I can't get it to work with send(,,,MSG_DONTWAIT), and I can't get it to work with O_NONBLOCK, as in all three cases the data gets badly mangled along the way, and I can't figure out why. I basically wanted to make it so messages get buffered by sys_gui(), and it would return even when a message hasn't been sent yet, and would try again later at a further call of sys_gui(...), and the main loop would try sending the rest when it can, by calling sys_gui(""). I then gave up on getting it to work because of the aforementioned issues. > But personally I see another problem, at least on Linux, with the > bigger main window. If I use an openpanel/savepanel in my patches, > then the Pd main win will lay itself above all other Pd windows after > I selected a file. This is really annoying, because normally I don't > need to see the Pd main window at all. Of course this isn't your > fault, but an even larger main window would make for an even larger > window to click away after selecting files. ;) You know, I had no clue about this, but I thought that someone would find such a problem eventually, which is why it was important to me that this feature be enabled explicitly by "-console", to ease its integration into the main Pd release. Besides, Pd does all sorts of other fprintf(stderr,...) that I haven't changed yet; so consider it as an "alpha" feature. ________________________________________________________________ Mathieu Bouchard http://artengine.ca/matju

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SourceForge "Donations"
by Hans-Christoph Steiner 25 Jan '04

25 Jan '04

So now SourceForge has set up a method of getting donations. I think we should really utilize this feature, but of course we need to sort out how first. I am thinking that it would probably be easiest and most effective if the donations were targeted, i.e. a Pd Dev puts up a post saying "I will do X if you give me $xxx", so it would be project based. Then it would also sort out who gets the money. But I think it would be great if there was a Pd general fund, then we could use that to pay people for past work, or pay people to do work that needs to be done, but isn't getting done. I would love to give up my day job and devote that time to hacking on Pd. I am sure many of you feel the same. The hard part is getting it all set up so that its fair and effective. .hc ________________________________________________________________________ ____ Man has survived hitherto because he was too ignorant to know how to realize his wishes. Now that he can realize them, he must either change them, or perish. -William Carlos Williams

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toxy - woah
by B. Bogart 24 Jan '04

24 Jan '04

Hello All, I've been playing with toxy today (in particular the nifty examples in CVS) Thanks for all the work going into this, its a very cool project. Oh the reason why I'm playing with it two things, I'd like to be able to use a nice "popup" menu to select from a number of things in a list, but the list is only visible when interacting. (takes up very little screen space). I'm also after a multi-line text entry widget. I have a working popup menu, and it works as a GOP, but its GOP bounds get all screwed up in 37-0 (when you move the object it shrink-wraps around the widget, if you save and load it you get a GOP box that does not fit with the proportions of the widget (tall and thin) but it works. I'm having some troubles with text entry though. I've hacked the example using an entry widget and replaced it with a text widget, which works great, except for a couple issues, multiple spaces and carrige returns are not preserved, and the result is wrapped in {} braces. I'd like to use this with the gem text objects, so it would be nice to be able to put line-breaks (say does text in gem even support line breaks?) but I'd be happy with spaces. So how do I remove the curly braces from inside the default.wip? I also have one general question, why are native PD wigets used in PD outside of property boxes? I would imagine a tk scroolbar would be a lot more efficient than a vector drawing of one.. I think more tk widgets (or whatever toolkit) should be available as interfaces inside PD. Toxy is being a little taxing, anyone working on a pop-up menu or text-entry external? The other thing was a "playlist" style file reader, but using a tk listbox and scrollbar... Thanks again, (especially to Kristof!) any comments appreciated. Thanks Ben PS: What exactly does: eval .<[.- get ].> do? I'm trying to add a string range command to strip the curly braces, but I don't know where to put it! "string range $string 1 [expr [string length $string] -2]"

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CVS at SF: Connection refused
by Frank Barknecht 24 Jan '04

24 Jan '04

Hallo, I keep getting this message when trying to update my local cvs tree of the pd repository: $ cvs update ssh: connect to host cvs.pure-data.sourceforge.net port 22: Connection refused cvs [update aborted]: end of file from server (consult above messages if any) My CVS/Root file contains this: :ext:fbar@cvs.pure-data.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/pure-data I get this error when trying to update other SF projects I'm in as well, so I guess something has changed at sourceforge, but I cannot find out anything about this. But I remember, that others here might have had the same problem. Could you solve it, and if yes: how? ciao -- Frank Barknecht _ ______footils.org__

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Re: [PD-dev] Supercollider
by Kjetil Svalastog Matheussen 23 Jan '04

23 Jan '04

Michal Seta: > > Where is it? What is it called? Its a new module called "supercollider". > > BTW, thanks for the k_guile updates. > Somehow, with the eval trick I can't get any simple with arguments to > work: > (+ 2 2) > Eval doesn't understand spaces. I made the eval message so that it could be connected to netreceieve or something similar. > > Also, which version of guile are you using? > I have 1.6.4 and was getting a message about deprecated features. > <quote> > `scm_protect_object' is deprecated. Use `scm_gc_protect_object' instead > </quote> > That was strange. I have 1.6.4 as well. Or at least I thought i used that one. Have to check that out. Frank Barknecht: > > > > Where is it? What is it called? > > I'm looking at the externals dir and don't see anything... > > It's one level up. Kjetil, maybe this should be moved to, well, > "externals"? Or not? > Its not really an external, so I don't think so. I thought it could be a place to put supercollider related things. Theres not much yet, but perhaps it will be in the future. --

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can't load external because of dependency on MSVCRTD.dll
by Jeffrey Hildebrand 23 Jan '04

23 Jan '04

this is a dll found in VC++, but i don't know why my external needs it to load. anybody know how to avoid this problem? thanks, scott

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Supercollider
by Kjetil Svalastog Matheussen 22 Jan '04

22 Jan '04

Hi, have anyone tried the supercollider things I have been uploaded to the cvs recently? Personally, I think its a revolution. Please send me some feedback. :) --

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// GEM create window locks kernel //
by delire 22 Jan '04

22 Jan '04

the moment i click the create msg box the cursor freezes and my box locks up. build system: . debian testing / unstable . both kernels 2.6.0 & 2.6.1 . gem-0.888pre and todays CVS . pd-0.37-1test3 . radeon 7500 (DRI / DRM =yes) . xlibmesa3 . libglut3 . ext3 fs is it a good idea to try out a statically linked gem? naturally i get no output as i have to power off. if anyone experiences this let me know! it's likely i have overlooked something (like today's horoscope) hasta luego, de/

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miXed externals on OSX from CVS
by ben＠ekran.org 21 Jan '04

21 Jan '04

Hey there, In order to compile miXed for OSX I needed to add a symlink from gcc2 to gcc-3.3 since gcc2 does not exist. Also the cd doc/src; $(MAKE) part for "make all" fails with: /bin/sh: line 1: cd: doc/src: No such file or directory cd doc/src; make indeed there is no such "doc" folder anywhere in the miXed. Then I get: make[42]: vfork: Resource temporarily unavailable make[42]: ../Makefile.common:5: fork: Resource temporarily unavailable make[42]: ../Makefile.common:6: fork: Resource temporarily unavailable make[42]: ../Makefile.common:19: fork: Resource temporarily unavailable and then make fails, the binaries all seem to be well built and load in PD fine though. just letting you all know. Ben

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Re: [PD-dev] zexy compile for OSX from CVS
by IOhannes zmoelnig 21 Jan '04

21 Jan '04

ben(a)ekran.org wrote: > Hello Johannes, > > Thanks for the reply, > > what should I put in this "z_operating_system.c" and where in the makefile > should I reference it??? just add the TARGET "z_operating_system" (without the .c) in makefile.darwin it should look like TARGETS = zexy \ z_connective z_pack z_multiplex z_drip \ z_makesymbol z_strings \ z_index z_msgfile \ z_stat z_average z_sort \ z_tabread4 z_coordinates \ z_datetime z_lp \ z_matrix \ z_noise z_testfun \ z_multiline z_sigmatrix \ z_nop z_zdelay \ z_limiter z_quantize z_swap \ z_sigbin z_sigaverage \ z_dfreq z_sigzero z_pdf \ z_sfplay z_sfrecord \ z_sigpack z_wrap \ z_prime z_random \ z_operating_system (and don't forget to *not* copy'n'paste this because of the the tabs) i have submitted it to the CVS now mfg.asd.r IOhannes > > Thanks > Ben >

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