Pd-dev May 2002

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sensing events
by Krzysztof Czaja 31 May '02

31 May '02

hi, how best to define a ``control event'' in Pd? I am trying to put 'cycle' into cyclone now. I need to know, how to sense, that successive messages belong to the same event. This `event-sensitive' mode is so described in the max4 manual: ``cycle detects separate events and restarts at the leftmost outlet when a new event occurs. Examples of separate events include messages with delays between them, and messages triggered by successive mouse clicks or MIDI events. A stream of items separated by commas in a message box is considered a single event.'' In a preliminary version I have simply used clock_getlogicaltime(), comparing logical times, but to handle it properly, one probably needs to distinguish between separate clocks or midi data tagged with the same time stamp, and also between different bits of data coming through sockets at the same time, like mouse, keyboard and net. In the Pd scheduler I found a call, outlet_setstacklim(), which seems to be invoked before processing almost any new `event' (except midi -- wonder why?). At least this is my understanding of the actual meaning of an `event'. But this call's sole job is to set a mark used in preventing recursive patches from overflowing the stack. Is there any way in which an external might get a clue? Krzysztof

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test
by d_jj 27 May '02

27 May '02

develdevil

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hello !
by IOhannes zmoelnig 27 May '02

27 May '02

hello ! you are subsrcibed to the pd-dev list questions ? feel free to ask me ( zmoelnig(a)iem.kug.ac.at ) mfg.cds.aasr IOhannes

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another test to few members -- please ignore anyhow
by IOhannes zmoelnig 27 May '02

27 May '02

this mail is merely for testing not all members of the list will get it though mfg.cdas.dr IOhannes

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another test -- ignore
by IOhannes zmoelnig 27 May '02

27 May '02

hallo

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a test (please ignore)
by IOhannes zmoelnig 27 May '02

27 May '02

mfg.cds.fdwa IOhannes

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dev-test
by Thomas Grill 27 May '02

27 May '02

so everyone can see if she/he receives mail from pd-dev.... sorry, T

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test - please ignore
by g�nter geiger 15 May '02

15 May '02

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CVS for externals (was Re: AW: [PD] pd-max compatibility)
by g�nter geiger 10 May '02

10 May '02

Hi David and all other external developers, Ok, I am moving this onto pd-dev, I think it belongs there and I do feel much more comfortable writing to people that I think might be interested in what I say. Anyhow, as we sort of agreed on working with CVS, the last question is how. There are three options, sourceforge, Davids university and the demudi site. My preference is: - CVS on devel.demudi.org - probably a mirror by David ... but don't hold your breath yet, there is a way to go. Then if this sort of works out I would like to do something similar with pd itself. Something like an unstable version, no guaranties, where people can try out their fonts, colors, menues and everything, and finally leave it up to Miller to decide what gets included. But this is even farther away, and of course it depends if Miller agrees on such a development system. Well thats it, I really hope this works out .. Guenter PS: We will need somone who does autocompilation on a Windows machine, (well and OSX) anyone with acess to something like this ? On Fri, 3 May 2002, david casal wrote: > Well i think you're probably right. In any case, if we do CVS, it is > possible to move to aegis later on if indeed it does catch on. Here's an > idea...if we (uea) hosted a dedicated debian box to do PD stuff only (CVS, > info about externals development, mailing list), we could see what > activity it spawns and then the community itself could decide on a > move towards aegis? I think I could set this up within the next month. If > you think it'll help, I'd love to do that. Perhaps it could live as a > 'sister' server to demudi's? > > > ... sin noticias de johannes, .... > > (I have written him an email about the list and the project, ...) > > Yup, it would be really good to hear what he thinks... > > Meantime, I'll go see what hardware I can 'borrow'...;-) > > Cheers, > David > > > On Wed, 1 May 2002, david casal wrote: > > > > > > > > Hello there. > > > > > > Ok, after debating the issue with central servers at UEA, they seem to > > > have a problem with the way AEGIS would live within their servers. Also, > > > after trying to install on OSX, there were too many problems. Now, thing > > > is that AEGIS does NOT necessarily need to be run (like CVS) from a > > > central server. Could you both please take a look, if you have time, at > > > the actual documents for aegis? There are several 'cases' which aegis can > > > be run in, one of them being email. > > > > > > http://aegis.sourceforge.net/documents.html > > > > > > They are all pdf docs. There's a lot of questions to be asked here, IMO. > > > First two that occur to me after reading (most of) the docs is: who would > > > write the testing routines (I assume it would have to be Miller)? And, > > > there would have to be a hierarchy, as in developers--integrators-- etc., > > > so who would decide? > > > > > > Anyway, we can still help with hosting information pages, and also we are > > > about to (finally) get a debian server which I can maintain, so in theory > > > we can help there too. Either way, maybe Miller will get time to look at > > > AEGIS, see what he thinks? > > > > > > Cheers, > > > David > > > > > > david casal --0+ > > > --- > > > d.casal(a)uea.ac.uk --9+ > > > --- > > > www.ariada.uea.ac.uk/~dcasal --)+ > > > > > > > > > > > david casal --0+ > --- > d.casal(a)uea.ac.uk --9+ > --- > www.ariada.uea.ac.uk/~dcasal --)+ >

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