On Jun 13, 2007, at 3:34 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
imho, it would be best to replace the current "downloads" section with the plone-software-center
I didn't yet look at this product, but from what you wrote so far this looks like a very cool thing to have.
I think that Plone is much too complicated for what we need for puredata.info. I think we would be better off if the whole thing was a wiki. Right now we get very little user generated content, there are only a couple contributors to the website. I think this is because things are much too complicated.
well, as asiad in previous emails: the good thing about plone is, that it has a wiki. so people can do sophisticated stuff with it if they are willing to get into it, or just use simple things they already know.
The plone upgrade has helped this a lot, the previous support for wikis was pretty weak. Now I think it can be claimed that plone has a wiki (i.e. wiki folders).
But whenever something is a "plone" page and something different than a wiki, then it limits who's going to use it, since most people don't want to learn plone. That's why I had the "member downloads" page as a wiki, but it seems you have converted it to some plone thing without asking anyone.
As for the downloads page, I am currently the maintainer and I really see no advantage to changing it. If you want to add the plone software center as an additional thing, that's fine by me.
as far as i can see, the current downloads page is really just one page with a short enumeration of downloadable things, organized in a not-too-appealing way (sorry if this sounds harsh; i am no web- designer either).
the main problem with the downloads section is, however, that there is no place where people are allowed to put their packages. (though they can easily add their package to the enumeration, once they have found a place for it).
so i still have 2 options: either register a 2nd project at sourceforge, or implement an adequate mechanism on puredata.info (which i prefer, since it is more fun on my side)
otoh, i AM willing to maintain a changed downloads section.
I think it's pretty easy to add downloads to this page, but not especially pretty:
http://puredata.org/downloads/other_members
Right now, a common problem is that people don't know which package to download. Adding more packages to the front of the download page will only make it more confusing. While I completely support vibrez and desiredata, I think it's pretty clear at this point that they are separate projects, with their own websites, lists, etc. So it does not make sense to also have dd and vibrez packages here.
.hc
Same goes with the bugtracker, the sourceforge one works well, I see no reason to change it.
me neither. nevertheless an issue-tracker is a good thing to think about before one deploys a software-center solution. better to be able to add a thing later than to dearly miss it, when sourceforge is finally bought by google.
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