Hello,
The portal software
http://puredata.info/ , http://pure-data.info/ , http://puredata.org/ has been updated (and some problems fixed).
Since we have to prepare the server und the software for the PD-Convention Documentation (with has now about 300GB of data), we have to to another upgrade soon.
Please anyone who encounters an errors, please report and anyone who has additional Ideas for the site please contact:
we made an mailing list: pdweb@iem.at for development there.
mfg winfried ritsch
Hello,
The portal software
I have also installed now ATContentTypes in Place of old types, but didnt suceed in converting all documents to new ones.
Please drop an eye if something is broken, since I just can test some random ones.
BTW Wiki is now updated and I have added a small wiki Howto for the Site:
Next Projects:
- Local Filesystem Integration for the huge Library
- stream on the fly with icecast of big video and audiofiles.
- report tool generating PDF of Documentation
- New Server setup extern of of IEM Intranet, so we can allow additinals root access admins...
Optional:
- pdp database integration
Anybody has any Ideas its time to discuss now.
mfg winfried
Le 9 Février 2005 05:42, Winfried Ritsch a écrit :
I have also installed now ATContentTypes in Place of old types, but didnt suceed in converting all documents to new ones.
Please drop an eye if something is broken, since I just can test some random ones.
Do you have an example of a document that hasn't been converted? The old content types should still be supported.
BTW Wiki is now updated and I have added a small wiki Howto for the Site:
There's omething odd: the "what's new" portlet don't show the items in reverse chronological order... Is it on purpose?
Next Projects:
- Local Filesystem Integration for the huge Library
One solution is to use DirectoryStorage instead of the Data.fs ZODB storage. http://dirstorage.sourceforge.net/
- stream on the fly with icecast of big video and audiofiles.
WebDav support for big files is still problematic, but there's solutions.
- report tool generating PDF of Documentation
I want to build a web to pdf gateway using the upcoming Mozilla 1.8; this version should have a remote command to save web pages as Postscript... The integration with Plone would be in the form of a pdfprint button, next to the normal print button.
You could also consider using PloneHelpCenter for the documentation section. There's a script to migrate ZWiki content to PloneHelpCenter...
Optional:
- pdp database integration
Do you mean "pdb"? An elegant solution would be to create custom content types for pdb, Then other documents could use references to pdb entries. Is the PDB database available (as SQL or tab delimited text file)?
-- Marc
Marc Lavallée wrote:
- pdp database integration
Do you mean "pdb"?
yes, of course
An elegant solution would be to create custom content types for pdb, Then other documents could use references to pdb entries. Is the PDB database available (as SQL or tab delimited text file)?
it is currently stored in a mySQL-db, i can export it on demand.
mfg.asdr IOhannes
Le 9 Février 2005 12:36, IOhannes m zmoelnig a écrit :
An elegant solution would be to create custom content types for pdb, Then other documents could use references to pdb entries. Is the PDB database available (as SQL or tab delimited text file)?
it is currently stored in a mySQL-db, i can export it on demand.
Then could you please send me an archive, or put it somewhere where I can grab it? This weekend, I will create custom types for a similar web application, so it might give me a good idea how to create a "pdb" content type.
Hello,
Le 9 Février 2005 12:36, IOhannes m zmoelnig a écrit :
An elegant solution would be to create custom content types for
pdb,
Then other documents could use references to pdb entries. Is the PDB database available (as SQL or tab delimited text file)?
That was my thought.
it is currently stored in a mySQL-db, i can export it on demand.
Then could you please send me an archive, or put it somewhere where I can grab it? This weekend, I will create custom types for a similar web application, so it might give me a good idea how to create a "pdb" content type.
Ok fine, I just startet with an UML diagramm (use ARCHGenXML), but the problem was I couldnt decide if we should change some of the fields.
a) The Idea was to use the database to control all objectnames, so people can see what is used and if the write something, they can reserve some objectname or at least some prefix on libraries...
b) The other problem is database or plone: - should we leave the SQL Backend (best to convert it to postgresql and make SQL-Storage AT),
- but since I think nobody will use this backend somewhere else there is no real reason to do so, so just import via script from the database will be fine, and then some other handling has to be made. Anyway references can be made.
c) If we have the ATContent Type we can place all entries in a "Large Plone Folder" or we allow people to handle their entries in their home. but then the problem is with the workflow, who can make it public if not reviewer... or is it only viewable to authentified users...
d) Structure: Since Plone can more than a database, it could be nice to make a hierachy: which is:
Libraries: as Folderish types can only contain object-entries with names.
All Libraries are in a Folderish content called the pddb where only libraries can be added, then we can restrict content creation und this hierachy
so anybody can create his pddb in his home and there is a big one for extra entries.
e) Listing: So we can search over the portal an do a list with a search mask.
Anyhow these are just some Ideas, you are free to use this or not.
mfG winfried
Le 10 Février 2005 15:47, ritsch@iem.at a écrit :
Then other documents could use references to pdb entries. Is the PDB database available (as SQL or tab delimited text file)?
That was my thought.
Cool!
Ok fine, I just startet with an UML diagramm (use ARCHGenXML), but the problem was I couldnt decide if we should change some of the fields.
That's an important design issue. :-)
a) The Idea was to use the database to control all objectnames, so people can see what is used and if the write something, they can reserve some objectname or at least some prefix on libraries...
b) The other problem is database or plone:
- should we leave the SQL Backend (best to convert it to postgresql and
make SQL-Storage AT),
PureData.org runs from a SQL storage? Is it appropriate for large files?
c) If we have the ATContent Type we can place all entries in a "Large Plone Folder" or we allow people to handle their entries in their home. but then the problem is with the workflow, who can make it public if not reviewer... or is it only viewable to authentified users...
I might have a solution... I worked this year on a multilingual architecture for Plone. With the precious help of a Plone developer, we enhanced I18NLayer alot; in my opinion the final system is better than Linguaplone.
We also developed a reference system as virtual folders called "ATCategories". It's not perfect yet, because it's not workflowable, but it works with security and reviewers are allowed to categorize submitted documents for publication.
All this is not completely GPL, because my employer just don't get it... :-(
d) Structure: Since Plone can more than a database, it could be nice to make a hierachy: which is:
Libraries: as Folderish types can only contain object-entries with names.
All Libraries are in a Folderish content called the pddb where only libraries can be added, then we can restrict content creation und this hierachy
so anybody can create his pddb in his home and there is a big one for extra entries.
That's exaclty what I did for another web site. But it's too bad, because I can't work anymore on this web site and I have to let another programmer finish it.
e) Listing: So we can search over the portal an do a list with a search mask.
Yep! Isn't Plone great? :-)
Am Freitag, 11. Februar 2005 00:19 schrieb Marc Lavallée:
Le 10 Février 2005 15:47, ritsch@iem.at a écrit :
Then other documents could use references to pdb entries. Is the PDB database available (as SQL or tab delimited text file)?
That was my thought.
Cool!
Ok fine, I just startet with an UML diagramm (use ARCHGenXML), but the problem was I couldnt decide if we should change some of the fields.
That's an important design issue. :-)
I just now post you the Database Structure dumped in a file (see attachment) and the UML Diagramms I made out of it and the Product autogenerated where the model is included. I used Poseidon UML 3.0 from http://gentleware.de/ community, since it seems to work best, but its a monster...
Pleas have a look and tell me what you mean.
I put it under
https://puredata.org/dev/pd_webwiki/PDBPureDatabaseInterfaceDevelopment
Maybe we check this in somewhere in a svn, cvs...
I think we should make it simpler (I dropped also the URL table)
mfg winfried
Am Freitag, 11. Februar 2005 00:19 schrieb Marc Lavallée:
Le 10 Février 2005 15:47, ritsch@iem.at a écrit :
Then other documents could use references to pdb entries. Is the PDB database available (as SQL or tab delimited text file)?
That was my thought.
Cool!
Ok fine, I just startet with an UML diagramm (use ARCHGenXML), but the problem was I couldnt decide if we should change some of the fields.
That's an important design issue. :-)
I just now post you the Database Structure dumped in a file and the UML Diagramms I made out of it and the Product autogenerated where the model is included. I used Poseidon UML 3.0 from http://gentleware.de/ community, since it seems to work best, but its a monster...
Pleas have a look and tell me what you mean:
https://puredata.org/dev/pd_webwiki/PDBPureDatabaseInterfaceDevelopment
Maybe we check this in somewhere in a svn, cvs...
I think we should make it simpler (I dropped also the URL table)
mfg winfried
Hello,
Sorry for delay, but our University just put up a firewall before the puredata-server, so we had troubles to convince the network stuff we need this server... anyway tomorrow we will check all these.
I have also installed now ATContentTypes in Place of old types, but
didnt
suceed in converting all documents to new ones.
Please drop an eye if something is broken, since I just can test
some
random ones.
Do you have an example of a document that hasn't been converted? The old content types should still be supported.
the problem was the the mogration script didnt succeed, so the types were switched but not the content. I have to investigate this fuhrter, meanwhile i just switched it back an have the atcontenttypes in addition (Just need it for report tool and restructured txt).
BTW Wiki is now updated and I have added a small wiki Howto for the
Site:
There's omething odd: the "what's new" portlet don't show the items in reverse chronological order... Is it on purpose?
no but i saw its default so on plone, so recents always revers, hmm...
Next Projects:
- Local Filesystem Integration for the huge Library
One solution is to use DirectoryStorage instead of the Data.fs ZODB storage. http://dirstorage.sourceforge.net/
thanx i have a look at this, ...
... but what we need is that people can download, files from documentation file storage, about 400GB of videos audio file. And a skript is converting them to encoded oggs or whatever. Since nobody wants to download this mass is mostly for transparency. so I thougt a nice feature to view this hierachy through the portal. Anyhow I have to think hwo to handle this in plone.
- stream on the fly with icecast of big video and audiofiles.
WebDav support for big files is still problematic, but there's solutions.
The idea is that a icecast stream is initiated on demand. so people can hear the lectures (most of them just 1 hour or more) and need not download them. I Think if somebody wants it, we offer ftp oder http access to download.
- report tool generating PDF of Documentation
I want to build a web to pdf gateway using the upcoming Mozilla 1.8; this version should have a remote command to save web pages as Postscript... The integration with Plone would be in the form of a pdfprint button, next to the normal print button.
You could also consider using PloneHelpCenter for the documentation section. There's a script to migrate ZWiki content to PloneHelpCenter...
Thats looks quite fine... I think this is an option. Anyway I believe, That the old wiki doesnt say much, so we should just copy some information and use the wiki for some organisig stuff, but make a doku with the HelpCenter... if we find contributors...
mfG Winfried
Optional:
- pdp database integration
Do you mean "pdb"? An elegant solution would be to create custom content types for pdb, Then other documents could use references to pdb entries. Is the PDB database available (as SQL or tab delimited text file)?
-- Marc
Pdweb mailing list Pdweb@iem.at http://iem.at/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pdweb
Le 10 Février 2005 17:14, ritsch@iem.at a écrit :
... but what we need is that people can download, files from documentation file storage, about 400GB of videos audio file. And a skript is converting them to encoded oggs or whatever. Since nobody wants to download this mass is mostly for transparency. so I thougt a nice feature to view this hierachy through the portal. Anyhow I have to think hwo to handle this in plone.
Interesting problem... If everything's fine, my next job will be to create a portal for students who generate an average of 500M each. So I'll have to think about similar solutions for asynchronous transcoding, so that original contents at full resolution could be automatically adapted for the web. So far I use ImageMagick to create thumbnails of images, directly in Plone, but for large documents like audio or video, that's not a good strategy.
Am Freitag, 11. Februar 2005 00:29 schrieb Marc Lavallée:
Le 10 Février 2005 17:14, ritsch@iem.at a écrit :
... but what we need is that people can download, files from documentation file storage, about 400GB of videos audio file. And a skript is converting them to encoded oggs or whatever. Since nobody wants to download this mass is mostly for transparency. so I thougt a nice feature to view this hierachy through the portal. Anyhow I have to think hwo to handle this in plone.
Interesting problem... If everything's fine, my next job will be to create a portal for students who generate an average of 500M each. So I'll have to think about similar solutions for asynchronous transcoding, so that original contents at full resolution could be automatically adapted for the web. So far I use ImageMagick to create thumbnails of images, directly in Plone, but for large documents like audio or video, that's not a good strategy.
we just did an portal called iaem (see http://www.iaem.at/) as a research project... maybe something usefull in it
mfg winfried
Am Freitag, 11. Februar 2005 00:29 schrieb Marc Lavallée:
Le 10 Février 2005 17:14, ritsch@iem.at a écrit :
... but what we need is that people can download, files from documentation file storage, about 400GB of videos audio file. And a skript is converting them to encoded oggs or whatever. Since nobody wants to download this mass is mostly for transparency. so I thougt a nice feature to view this hierachy through the portal. Anyhow I have to think hwo to handle this in plone.
Interesting problem... If everything's fine, my next job will be to create a portal for students who generate an average of 500M each. So I'll have to think about similar solutions for asynchronous transcoding, so that original contents at full resolution could be automatically adapted for the web. So far I use ImageMagick to create thumbnails of images, directly in Plone, but for large documents like audio or video, that's not a good strategy.
(sorry about the third mail, but the other was i dont know why, empty)
I just now post you the Database Structure dumped in a file and the UML Diagramms I made out of it and the Product autogenerated where the model is included. I used Poseidon UML 3.0 from http://gentleware.de/ community, since it seems to work best, but its a monster...
Pleas have a look and tell me what you mean:
https://puredata.org/dev/pd_webwiki/PDBPureDatabaseInterfaceDevelopment
Maybe we check this in somewhere in a svn, cvs...
I think we should make it simpler (I dropped also the URL table)
mfg winfried
Le 11 Février 2005 11:40, Winfried Ritsch a écrit :
I just now post you the Database Structure dumped in a file and the UML Diagramms I made out of it and the Product autogenerated where the model is included. I used Poseidon UML 3.0 from http://gentleware.de/ community, since it seems to work best, but its a monster...
Anything named after an ancient god must be bloated. Do you know about ArgoUML? It's a free software released with a BSD license (which Poseidon is based on) and it's much smaller. I'm not yet familiar with UML, but for my next job I'll have to be very "buzzword compliant", and I feel that UML and XML would help. :-) I tried to load the PDDatabase.xmi file (unzipped from PDDatabase.zuml) into ArgoUML 0.16.1, but nothing happens. I better read the manual then...
Pleas have a look and tell me what you mean:
https://puredata.org/dev/pd_webwiki/PDBPureDatabaseInterfaceDevelopment
Maybe we check this in somewhere in a svn, cvs...
I think we should make it simpler (I dropped also the URL table)
You did a good job at reducing the schema. Here's a few quick comments:
- There should be two fields for the license: a multi-selection box of common free licences (for multiple-licensing), plus a text area for the description of other licenses and/or comments about the licensing scheme. Of course the default selection would be GPL, with a Gnu ascii art in the text area... ;-)
- The authors, persons (contributors?) views could have references to corresponding Plone users.
- Attachments or files and references to files on the portal. This PDDB section could act as a repository for the download section, with comments and annotations.
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