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Then Hans wrote:

Where can I see that?

External links can be created while in contents view and shows in a "related" box at the bottom left. This box also contains internal links to items with the same keywords. There's already a couple of "related" boxes in the site; if you explore you'll noticed them.

I just created a link in my folder: http://testpd.iem.at/Members/odradek/ and one on the first page (about folder): http://testpd.iem.at/about/

I modified the box and now externals links pops in a new window. But I'd like them to point to their correspondant link documents.

With the Development Areas, it would be set up so that anyone could edit it to add themselves under the areas they are working under.

Anyone = any registered user?

To me, having both the top navigation and the side navigation is redundant and somewhat confusing, especially if they have only some of same things in them.

I agree.

But if people want both, I think they should have the same navigation items, which are the top-level items on the Content Structure:

There's not a lot room at the top; the site has to work with most browsers at low resolutions like 800x600, even with text browsers like "links". We should try to keep the basic Plone links at the top (About Members News Search); News and Search never shows in the box, About and Members appears in the box to anonymous users only when they click on these tabs. Maybe there's a way to hide folders in the navigation box even for registered users.

In fact, I think http://www.boxesandarrows.com is a good example for nice, clean design.

Very clean indeed; it's a PHP "Movable Type" site (http://www.movabletype.org), which by default has a clean look. I think we better not try to build the perfect designer skin, Plone is already complex and clean enough. I would change the colors, not much.

- -- Marc

Belize is a small country on the Caribbean Sea neighboring Mexico, Guatemala, and Honduras:

http://www.bartleby.com/151/c27.html

.hc

On Wednesday, Jul 2, 2003, at 06:59 America/New_York, d.lj wrote:

looks good to me.

who is belize?

[Hans-Christoph Steiner]->[[Pdweb] content structure]->[03-07-02 00:12]

| |This list has gotten quiet recently. I'd love to finalize the content |structure, so we can go off on our own and build out the site. Any |problems, changes, comments, etc. to this layout: | |http://testpd.iem.at/dev/pdweb_wiki/HansContentStructure | | * News (startpage) | o news/announcements | o Calendar | + event text listing | * Documentation | o "About" concise explanation of pd | + Copyright | o pd docs | o Tutorials | o FAQ | o Development | * Development | o how to join the SourceForge? |project|http://pure-data.sf.net? | o List of Developers | o Development Areas (HID, web site, synthesis, DJ, etc.) | o Developer Roles (maintainters, webmasters, etc.) | * Members Pages | o brief explanation of section | o member listing | o member folders | + patches | + art | + announcements/news | * Community | o patches | o "art" (tracks, GEM pictures, flash-installations) | o forums | + Linux Installation Help | + MacOS? X Installation Help | + Windows Installation Help | + General Problems | + others... | o mailing lists / archives | * Downloads | o pure-data.sf.net packages | o pd-gem.sf.net packages | o wiki with links to sites of other externals | * Search | o Search the site | o search PDB | | |I will be in Belize until Tuesday night, so I won't be checking email |till then. | |.hc | | | | |_______________________________________________ |Pdweb mailing list |Pdweb@iem.at |http://iem.at/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pdweb |

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Le 2 Juillet 2003 16:24, Frank Barknecht a écrit :

I has come up before, but I would like to get rid of most of the boxes, too. I would like the "about document"-box to be in the footer of the page, where now the useless Plone advertisement is.

Good idea. I already made the modification, please take a look.

Currently there is redundant navigation info: the notetabs at the top and the nav.-box at the left hand. I'd prefer one of these to go away.

I would keep those items at the top: About Members News Events Search

- -- Marc

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Le 3 Juillet 2003 05:05, Winfried Ritsch a écrit :

I would prefer to put the navigationbox and additionally pending box for reviewers on the left side only if you are logged in, since it is nice to see your content structure in the home and have the possibility to switch to content, at least for the Members folder.

Otherwhere there should only be boxes on the right side on some folders, like newsbox and calendar in about, but none on the left side.

Navigation makes only sense if, the directorystructure is complex emnough. and for the "content view" switch.

"Navigation" is not really a feature or an option, so it'd be easier for both maintainers and users to keep the navigation box visible at the left, at all time, for all users, since it works as a "context sensitive" menu and shows the site structure. - -- Marc

On Wednesday, Jul 2, 2003, at 16:24 America/New_York, Frank Barknecht wrote:

Hallo, Hans-Christoph Steiner hat gesagt: // Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:

...

I'd love to finalize the content structure, so we can go off on our own and build out the site. Any problems, changes, comments, etc. to this layout:

http://testpd.iem.at/dev/pdweb_wiki/HansContentStructure

* Downloads
      o pure-data.sf.net packages
      o pd-gem.sf.net packages
      o wiki with links to sites of other externals
* Search
      o Search the site
      o search PDB

So far this is okay with me. I just wonder, if the PDP search would not better be placed to downloads? Or maybe there as well.

If we could get rid of PDP in the Search folder, then we could also get rid of the Search folder at all and just keep the search entry at the page's top.

The ideal solution would be to plone-ize PDB so that there would just be one search page where all search functions would be accessible. But if that is not possible, then we need to come up with something else. Any plone experts have any ideas for how to approach plone-izing PDB?

Regarding the skinning:

I has come up before, but I would like to get rid of most of the boxes, too. I would like the "about document"-box to be in the footer of the page, where now the useless Plone advertisement is.

Currently there is redundant navigation info: the notetabs at the top and the nav.-box at the left hand. I'd prefer one of these to go away.

Opinions?

I second that wholeheartedly (see previous email).

.hc

On Thursday, Jul 3, 2003, at 05:15 America/New_York, Winfried Ritsch wrote:

Hello,

looks ok for me too.

...

* Documentation
      o "About" concise explanation of pd
            + Copyright
      o pd docs
      o Tutorials
      o FAQ
      o Development
* Development
      o how to join the SourceForge?

project|http://pure-data.sf.net? o List of Developers o Development Areas (HID, web site, synthesis, DJ, etc.) o Developer Roles (maintainters, webmasters, etc.)

Here is still the question if we need a Development in either the Documentation or as a seperate folder.

I dont know how to compile or and handle the list of developers and or developer roles, since the developers are tracked inside CVS or with their project they document on this page.

I am planning on setting this up and doing some maintenance. But it would be great if the maintenance could be open to many. There is already something similar done on the sf.net site: http://pure-data.sourceforge.net/documentation.php

The development-areas would be nice to be structured like seen above, but should it not be projects...

so we can put all in Documentation -> Development.

With the Development Areas, it would be set up so that anyone could edit it to add themselves under the areas they are working under.

But we need some place for the Bugtracker of this site and Documentation for this site

like How to contribute a project, a News an Event and an explanation of Workflow, structured text, and all Objects you can create... like NuxDocument, Photos, Photoalbums, Collector, Forum, Wiki.

I dont know where to put this like to community or so... ?

This would go under Documentation in a section for how to use the website.

I have incorporated all of the changes discussed into a revised Content Structure document:

http://testpd.iem.at/dev/pdweb_wiki/FrontPage

.hc