If you aren't sick of them yet, I've got an archive request:
- would it be possible to search-and-replace on pure-data.org in all the list archives and replace with puredata.org?
Something like:
sed -i.bak -e 's/pure-data.org/puredata.org/g' pd-list.mbox
and for pd-ot.mbox, pd-announce.mbox, and pd-dev.mbox
.hc
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Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
If you aren't sick of them yet, I've got an archive request:
;-)
- would it be possible to search-and-replace on pure-data.org in all the
list archives and replace with puredata.org?
Something like:
sed -i.bak -e 's/pure-data.org/puredata.org/g' pd-list.mbox
somehow a good idea, somehow not (it somehow reminds me of the ministry of truth: correcting the archives to the new reality)
but of course i could do it...
mfg.asd.r IOhannes
Hallo, Hans-Christoph Steiner hat gesagt: // Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
If you aren't sick of them yet, I've got an archive request:
- would it be possible to search-and-replace on pure-data.org in all
the list archives and replace with puredata.org?
Something like:
sed -i.bak -e 's/pure-data.org/puredata.org/g' pd-list.mbox
and for pd-ot.mbox, pd-announce.mbox, and pd-dev.mbox
You mean online? No, please.
It's an *archive*, not a collection of valid documentation that should be updated regularily.
In 2001 pd.info was pd.org and not run by IEM. Changing this to pd.info would be wrong information.
Ciao
On Oct 14, 2004, at 4:39 AM, Frank Barknecht wrote:
Hallo, Hans-Christoph Steiner hat gesagt: // Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
If you aren't sick of them yet, I've got an archive request:
- would it be possible to search-and-replace on pure-data.org in all
the list archives and replace with puredata.org?
Something like:
sed -i.bak -e 's/pure-data.org/puredata.org/g' pd-list.mbox
and for pd-ot.mbox, pd-announce.mbox, and pd-dev.mbox
You mean online? No, please.
It's an *archive*, not a collection of valid documentation that should be updated regularily.
In 2001 pd.info was pd.org and not run by IEM. Changing this to pd.info would be wrong information.
I am all for leaving history intact, but I really think that this is almost purely a technical issue, though it does feel strange to correct archives. I think replacing pure-data.org with puredata.org is such a minor change, yet will provide a relatively large benefit, links in the archive will work again, so I think its worth it. Also, it wouldn't be too hard to only make the change to emails later than the IEM site launch, keeping historical info intact. But I can also understand wanting to keep the archive "pure".
.hc
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On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 09:52:26 -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner hans@eds.org wrote:
On Oct 14, 2004, at 4:39 AM, Frank Barknecht wrote:
Hans-Christoph Steiner hat gesagt: // Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
If you aren't sick of them yet, I've got an archive request:
- would it be possible to search-and-replace on pure-data.org in all
the list archives and replace with puredata.org?
You mean online? No, please. It's an *archive*, not a collection of valid documentation that should be updated regularily.
I am all for leaving history intact, but I really think that this is almost purely a technical issue, [snip]
pure-data.org is an atrocious nightmare now, so I second Hans' suggestion. Dictionaries and technical references are updated regularly. The alternative, a hosts file or local DNS entry pointing pure-data.org to 193.170.191.182 (puredata.org) fails.
I'd like this question thrown open to the whole pd list community, but I'll leave that up to Hans.
Unless/until puredata.org/plone gets polling implemented, I've set up a voting POLL here: http://tet.hopto.org.master.com/texis/master/search http://tet.hopto.org.master.com/texis/master/search http://tet.hopto.org.master.com/texis/master/search
lex ein wrote:
On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 09:52:26 -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner
pure-data.org is an atrocious nightmare now, so I second Hans' suggestion. Dictionaries and technical references are updated regularly.
true, but i think frank has pointed out, that the archives are archives and not dictionaries or technical references.
several email-addresses found in the archives (a fact that could be discussed separately) are dead by now. a lot of links (not only pure-data.org) are dead by now. several (virtual) posters do not exist any more.
so what is the difference
as for hans' idea to only change links after the iem-launch of pure-data.org, i don't really understand it. references/links to the "old" pure-data.org will never work again (most probably), *but* following them will eventually lead to some DNS-grabber's homepage: what does it tell us ?
and just a sidemark: i'd love to see the postings in the archive talking about "hey, http://puredata.org does not work any more -> well, the puredata.org domain has been grabbed, the new one is http://puredata.org"
Unless/until puredata.org/plone gets polling implemented, I've set up a voting POLL here:
which one, should i use: this ?
this ?
or that ?
mfg.gru.mpy IOhannes
Le 15 Octobre 2004 06:42, Johannes M Zmoelnig a écrit :
as for hans' idea to only change links after the iem-launch of pure-data.org, i don't really understand it. references/links to the "old" pure-data.org will never work again (most probably), *but* following them will eventually lead to some DNS-grabber's homepage: what does it tell us ?
I already suggested that the mailing list archive could be imported into Plone. A few months ago I started to adapt a mailing list archiving "product" for Plone. It would be easier to search through the archive, and there could be a filter option to remap strings like emails and urls, or to add those new strings next to the old ones. Does it sound like a good idea? -- Marc
On Oct 16, 2004, at 2:40 PM, Marc Lavallée wrote:
Le 15 Octobre 2004 06:42, Johannes M Zmoelnig a écrit :
as for hans' idea to only change links after the iem-launch of pure-data.org, i don't really understand it. references/links to the "old" pure-data.org will never work again (most probably), *but* following them will eventually lead to some DNS-grabber's homepage: what does it tell us ?
I already suggested that the mailing list archive could be imported into Plone. A few months ago I started to adapt a mailing list archiving "product" for Plone. It would be easier to search through the archive, and there could be a filter option to remap strings like emails and urls, or to add those new strings next to the old ones. Does it sound like a good idea?
It would be great to have a forum interface to the lists. But I think my changing the URL idea got nixed.
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