Cool, thanks for the help! Framapad is nice but I have to tell I'm not very self-confident with the French interface... not intimidated though :) I've made a new revision, based on these thoughts: - "Starting from a blank page" is needless to say, and it doesn't always apply - "You" sounds a bit ad-like, let's substitute the target groups right here - Let's try to make up the sentence without parentheses - Let's omit the parts which are not essential ("e.g. "all over the world") - Added a few uses (sorry MIDI is my sweetheart)
I'm not sure about the "Pd is suitable for..." sentence, especially the expression "production-safe"... Let's talk about it.
András
On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 12:32 PM, Nicolas Montgermont < nicolas_montgermont@yahoo.fr> wrote:
If you don't mind, I've switched to framapad that doesn't need any account to edit: http://lite.framapad.org/p/HtIWJQZv7m and started to rewrite the first paragraph:
Pure Data* (aka Pd) is an open source visual programming language used for multimedia processing. Starting from a blank page, you graphically create your own software to design realtime multimedia creation (sound, video, 3D), physical interfacing (sensors, 3D camera, joystick), motor control, network communications or any other data computing. Pd is widely used all over the world by a community of people coming from different fields: musicians, visual artist, researchers, developers, performers, spectacle technicians...
I think it lacks an ending... let's finish it together! n
Le 20/11/12 19:41, Marco Donnarumma a écrit :
great Andràs, thanks.
I agree with HC, we should be more radical, and focus the first paragraph on a very simple and concise statement on what Pd does, and who is interested in using it (see processing and max example posted by HC).
- what it does (sound, image, www, for installation, performances,
concerts, interactive scenery, etc... let's use some keywords here)
- who find it useful (artist, programmers, musicians, video artist, dance
company, hardware makers because it's so portable)
- where to get it (your paragraph looks very good to me)
- who did it and why
that should be more than enough... my 2cents!
cheers,
-- Marco Donnarumma New Media + Sonic Arts Practitioner, Performer, Teacher, Director. Embodied Audio-Visual Interaction Research Team. Department of Computing, Goldsmiths University of London
Portfolio: http://marcodonnarumma.com Research: http://res.marcodonnarumma.com Director: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 5:20 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans@at.or.at>wrote: > > That's steps in the right direction, for sure. I think you should take > a more radical approach: start writing things from scratch, then use the > old one as a source for some text here and there. > > The current text does a terrible job of explaining to total newbies > what Pd is and why they might be interested. The Processing blurb is > decent: > > "Processing is an open source programming language and environment for > people who want to create images, animations, and interactions. Initially > developed to serve as a software sketchbook and to teach fundamentals of > computer programming within a visual context, Processing also has evolved > into a tool for generating finished professional work. Today, there are > tens of thousands of students, artists, designers, researchers, and > hobbyists who use Processing for learning, prototyping, and production." > http://processing.org/ > > > Max/MSP is worth looking at too: > > "For over twenty years, Max has been used by performers, artists, and > composers to make cutting-edge work by connecting basic functional blocks > together into unique applications. Max gives you the parts to make your own > music, sound, video, and interactive media applications. Simply add objects > to a visual canvas and connect them together to make noise, experiment, and > play." http://cycling74.com/products/max/ > > > .hc > > On Nov 17, 2012, at 2:21 PM, András Murányi wrote: > > Sirs, > > I've made a proposal, please take a look and comment: > > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1VrM68BbNvi0VrPaLv3__C_wvNgxd5KK2Pp3Ci_1V17s/edit > (comments are enabled, editing is disabled, please start a new doc for > eventual revisions) > > András > > > On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 11:40 AM, Nicolas Montgermont < > nicolas_montgermont@yahoo.fr> wrote: > >> We had a discussion in march about the home text: >> http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pdweb/2012-03/000843.html >> it stopped too early :) >> This may be a base to start >> n >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> *De :* Marco Donnarumma <devel@thesaddj.com> >> *À :* András Murányi <muranyia@gmail.com> >> *Cc :* "pdweb@iem.at Web" <pdweb@iem.at> >> *Envoyé le :* Dimanche 11 novembre 2012 16h56 >> *Objet :* Re: [Pdweb] rename "download Pd" to "Downloads" >> >> good idea, yes, maybe send us your content, this list has way less >> members than the others, >> so we can edit collaboratively/agree on things quite fast. >> >> thanks! >> >> -- >> Marco Donnarumma >> New Media + Sonic Arts Practitioner, Performer, Teacher, Director. >> Embodied Audio-Visual Interaction Research Team. >> Department of Computing, Goldsmiths University of London >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> Portfolio: http://marcodonnarumma.com >> Research: http://res.marcodonnarumma.com >> Director: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net >> >> >> On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 3:34 PM, András Murányi <muranyia@gmail.com>wrote: >> >> Now I'd just enrich the intro text on the main page with some direct >> links (for RJDJ, LibPd and whatever is mentioned there) and I think a tiny >> bit of clarification is missing about Vanilla (currently mentioned as "The >> Core of Pd) and extended (not mentioned at all). If there are no >> objections, I'll commit directly to the page, otherwise I'll post a revised >> version here first. >> >> András >> >> >> On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 12:28 PM, Marco Donnarumma <devel@thesaddj.com>wrote: >> >> yea, nice.. >> >> >> -- >> Marco Donnarumma >> New Media + Sonic Arts Practitioner, Performer, Teacher, Director. >> Embodied Audio-Visual Interaction Research Team. >> Department of Computing, Goldsmiths University of London >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> Portfolio: http://marcodonnarumma.com >> Research: http://res.marcodonnarumma.com >> Director: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net >> >> >> On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 10:28 PM, András Murányi <muranyia@gmail.com>wrote: >> >> On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 10:18 PM, András Murányi <muranyia@gmail.com>wrote: >> >> On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 12:53 AM, Marco Donnarumma <devel@thesaddj.com>wrote: >> >> if I remember correctly, adding something to a page might be tricky (at >> least with this version of Plone, the only I know). >> I will look into it, although I don't have much time at the moment, so >> anybody who wants to chip in before me is welcome :) >> >> >> Let me into the Zope Management Interface and I'll try to tame the old >> beast. >> >> András >> >> >> Oh! Just noticed the fresh changes. The links on the top of the right >> column are cooler then I thought (ie both links are there), bravo! >> As for the menu, I'd suggest "Downloads" instead of "Download" then. >> >> >> >> > >