Hallo!
I810, nv, mga...etc
isn't nv the proprietary nvidia driver ?
but I guess there is nothing for ati cards?
LG Georg
no nv is the libre drivers for nvidia... ati I didn't see any project around but I don't use ati cards... I try not to use ati & nvidia and most of my problems are resolved, there are plenty of others video cards with libre drivers support...
juto
I810, nv, mga...etc
isn't nv the proprietary nvidia driver ?
but I guess there is nothing for ati cards?
LG Georg
ATI made a linux driver for recent cards (called fglrx) https://support.ati.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=894 https://support.ati.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=894&task=knowledge&f olderID=27 &task=knowledge&folderID=27
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no nv is the libre drivers for nvidia... ati I didn't see any project around but I don't use ati cards... I try not to use ati & nvidia and most of my problems are resolved, there are plenty of others video cards with libre drivers support...
juto
I810, nv, mga...etc
isn't nv the proprietary nvidia driver ?
but I guess there is nothing for ati cards?
LG
Georg
hi juto,
no nv is the libre drivers for nvidia... ati I didn't see any project around but I don't use ati cards... I try not to use ati & nvidia and most of my problems are resolved, there are plenty of others video cards with libre drivers support...
i couldn't get the nv driver running on my machine for longer than 2 minutes without graphics problems ... otoh, the nvidia drivers are easy to install, use and rock-solid i don't see any problems with using a closed-source driver, if there is no open source driver available / usable ... it's better than having no driver at all (which unfortunately is far more common in the linux world).
cheers... tim
yes the nv driver is not the best one because the guys couldn't have all the informations from nvidia company... that's why it's good to look after your hardware before to buy it than after ;-)
cheers
juto
no nv is the libre drivers for nvidia... ati I didn't see any project around but I don't use ati cards... I try not to use ati & nvidia and most of my problems are resolved, there are plenty of others video cards with libre drivers support...
i couldn't get the nv driver running on my machine for longer than 2 minutes without graphics problems ... otoh, the nvidia drivers are easy to install, use and rock-solid i don't see any problems with using a closed-source driver, if there is no open source driver available / usable ... it's better than having no driver at all (which unfortunately is far more common in the linux world).
cheers... tim
Hallo, Tim Blechmann hat gesagt: // Tim Blechmann wrote:
i couldn't get the nv driver running on my machine for longer than 2 minutes without graphics problems ... otoh, the nvidia drivers are easy to install, use and rock-solid
But are you sure, they will still run in two years?
i don't see any problems with using a closed-source driver, if there is no open source driver available / usable ... it's better than having no driver at all (which unfortunately is far more common in the linux world).
If people happily buy from vendors, who don't supply specifications for their hardware, then why should the manufacturers change their habit of keeping everything secret and closed up?
I only buy hardware with open source drivers. I understand, that sometimes this is not possible for some people, but whereever it is, linux customers should beware. Closed-source vendor drivers are a trojan horse. I would never let it enter my town.
Ciao
On Sun, 19 Feb 2006 16:13:35 +0100 Frank Barknecht fbar@footils.org wrote:
Hallo, Tim Blechmann hat gesagt: // Tim Blechmann wrote:
i couldn't get the nv driver running on my machine for longer than 2 minutes without graphics problems ... otoh, the nvidia drivers are easy to install, use and rock-solid
But are you sure, they will still run in two years?
the question is ... will my machine still run in two years :-/
i think, you'll have to differenciate a bit ... will they still run on "the same hardware" / "the same kernel"? most likely ... will they still run on kernel 5.0 ... not sure, but this is also not sure for open source drivers .... iirc some hardware support has been dropped from the linux kernel from 2.4 to 2.6 ...
i don't see any problems with using a closed-source driver, if there is no open source driver available / usable ... it's better than having no driver at all (which unfortunately is far more common in the linux world).
If people happily buy from vendors, who don't supply specifications for their hardware, then why should the manufacturers change their habit of keeping everything secret and closed up?
I only buy hardware with open source drivers. I understand, that sometimes this is not possible for some people, but whereever it is, linux customers should beware. Closed-source vendor drivers are a trojan horse. I would never let it enter my town.
well, imo, there are worse things than running a linux machine with one or two closed source drivers ... i'm more pissed by the bundled software, when buying hardware ... e.g. there are no decent laptops without windoze license ... having a closed-source software, that i paid for and that i actually use is fine ... but buying something i don't need nor use is a much bigger problem ...
cheers ... tim
Hallo, Tim Blechmann hat gesagt: // Tim Blechmann wrote:
i'm more pissed by the bundled software, when buying hardware ... e.g. there are no decent laptops without windoze license ...
It is possible to get barebone laptops as well. Apart from really barebone systems, that you need to complete yourself, one can also buy "no-name" systems from vendors, who built systems on demand. I did so for my latest notebook, which is a barebone laptop by MSI. It doesn't even have MSI-stickers, I'm doing my own [bang( sticker currently. ;)
One should not expect to save a lot of money this way, though, or save money at all: These bundled MS-Windows licenses really add nothing to the price, maybe a couple of cents. Just what it's worth. ;)
Ciao