hello readers of Pd off topic list.
i use older machines (1 to 2GHz)using debian to run PD , there only purpose is puredata synthesis .the PD version and OS i have will never change on those machines as they function perfectly and are required to function that way for as long as the chip's/board's last .
however since PD and its OS are held on mechanical magnetic storage devices they can meet death quite often .
im looking for a way to preserve an image of the HD/OS's holding PD onto DVD's?
could this be done by using another HD with debian installed and some sort of HD image software ?. this is something i know nothing of but have heard rumors of ways to make HD images from people in office IT who work with windows .
any feed back would be greatly appreciated , apologies of this is well off topic and thanks for any consideration of my off topic problems .
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Hallo, J_J_FUX hat gesagt: // J_J_FUX wrote:
hello readers of Pd off topic list.
i use older machines (1 to 2GHz)using debian to run PD , there only purpose is puredata synthesis .the PD version and OS i have will never change on those machines as they function perfectly and are required to function that way for as long as the chip's/board's last .
however since PD and its OS are held on mechanical magnetic storage devices they can meet death quite often .
im looking for a way to preserve an image of the HD/OS's holding PD onto DVD's?
could this be done by using another HD with debian installed and some sort of HD image software ?. this is something i know nothing of but have heard rumors of ways to make HD images from people in office IT who work with windows .
any feed back would be greatly appreciated , apologies of this is well off topic and thanks for any consideration of my off topic problems .
This is very off-topic and a such a perfect topic for this list. ;)
What you want to do is pretty common backup stuff. Some URLs to read for more info: http://gentoo-wiki.com/Simple_snapshot_style_backup http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Backup http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Linux-Complete-Backup-and-Recovery-HOWTO/ http://gradha.sdf-eu.org/textos/dar-differential-backup-mini-howto.en.html
$ (insert and mount USB media that is big enough to hold your disk) $ dd if=/dev/hda1 of=/media/yourdisk/backup.img
Ciao
I am hearing all the most contraditory about Fedora core and ccrma.
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thanks a million for those links that looks exactly like what i want to do (except no USB HD's , thats a little to futuristic for me still ) i can make this work with the info you have provided and the hardware i do have , thanks again .
Frank Barknecht , was there development on a PD live OS ? , i thought i heard of this around a year ago . is that still being worked on ?
if you have any info about that id love to hear . things just keep getting better with PD i like the idea of something dedicated to running PD and its massively interesting external software.
Frank Barknecht fbar@footils.org wrote: Hallo, J_J_FUX hat gesagt: // J_J_FUX wrote:
hello readers of Pd off topic list.
i use older machines (1 to 2GHz)using debian to run PD , there only purpose is puredata synthesis .the PD version and OS i have will never change on those machines as they function perfectly and are required to function that way for as long as the chip's/board's last .
however since PD and its OS are held on mechanical magnetic storage devices they can meet death quite often .
im looking for a way to preserve an image of the HD/OS's holding PD onto DVD's?
could this be done by using another HD with debian installed and some sort of HD image software ?. this is something i know nothing of but have heard rumors of ways to make HD images from people in office IT who work with windows .
any feed back would be greatly appreciated , apologies of this is well off topic and thanks for any consideration of my off topic problems .
This is very off-topic and a such a perfect topic for this list. ;)
What you want to do is pretty common backup stuff. Some URLs to read for more info: http://gentoo-wiki.com/Simple_snapshot_style_backup http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Backup http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Linux-Complete-Backup-and-Recovery-HOWTO/ http://gradha.sdf-eu.org/textos/dar-differential-backup-mini-howto.en.html
$ (insert and mount USB media that is big enough to hold your disk) $ dd if=/dev/hda1 of=/media/yourdisk/backup.img
Ciao
Hallo, J_J_FUX hat gesagt: // J_J_FUX wrote:
Frank Barknecht , was there development on a PD live OS ? , i thought i heard of this around a year ago . is that still being worked on ?
if you have any info about that id love to hear . things just keep getting better with PD i like the idea of something dedicated to running PD and its massively interesting external software.
There's pure:dyne, which is in development but already very far. Watch https://puredyne.goto10.org/ closely.
Ciao
Le 18 Février 2006 15:01, Frank Barknecht a écrit :
There's pure:dyne, which is in development but already very far. Watch https://puredyne.goto10.org/ closely.
I was waiting for puredyne but I was too impatient, so I build my own (pd is in my Kanotix derivative). I used Hans pd-extended distribution and added more stuff. It's far from being perfect, but it works for me. I hope to continue its development, but I won't distribute it because of all those stupid non-free software required for a descent multimedia Linux system. -- Marc
well, strange... first you said you made your livecd with pd and librairies and then you don't want to redistributed... for good reason (non-free stuff in it) and in the same time you said you need this non-free software to have a descent multimedia linux system... I am not at all agree, I do all my works (audio, video, printing, 3D...) since 3/4 years under linux, you have to be carefull about some hardware, but without that all what you want to do under multimedia could be realize without too much problem. I feel very inconfortable with those people that used linux for their works and that they always spit on it. I use different distros for my works (mix video, interactive installation, audio pro recording, live music, printing, website...etc) without one non-free software. So I affirme here, you could have a descent multimedia linux system without any stupid non-free software. Why don't you try to custom your distro without any non-free software, it could help everyone, show that we could have another option with kanotix to work with multimedia!!! and specially a puredata customed!
Agnula : http://agnula.org Apodio : http://www.apodio.org Dynebolic : http://www.dynebolic.org PLanet CCRMA : http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/software/
cheers
juto
Le 18 Février 2006 15:01, Frank Barknecht a écrit :
There's pure:dyne, which is in development but already very far. Watch https://puredyne.goto10.org/ closely.
I was waiting for puredyne but I was too impatient, so I build my own (pd is in my Kanotix derivative). I used Hans pd-extended distribution and added more stuff. It's far from being perfect, but it works for me. I hope to continue its development, but I won't distribute it because of all those stupid non-free software required for a descent multimedia Linux system. -- Marc
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Le 19 Février 2006 05:32, vous avez écrit :
well, strange... first you said you made your livecd with pd and librairies and then you don't want to redistributed... for good reason (non-free stuff in it) and in the same time you said you need this non-free software to have a descent multimedia linux system...
I don't have to redistribute a collection of software that most of us can download and use legally (where its allowed). I added non-free software in my livecd mostly to support proprietary video formats, dvd decoding, Java applets, recent ATI and nVidia video cards and other things. This custom livecd is not a technological breakthrough, and it's not available for good reasons.
I am not at all agree, I do all my works (audio, video, printing, 3D...) since 3/4 years under linux, you have to be carefull about some hardware, but without that all what you want to do under multimedia could be realize without too much problem.
I agree with you. But I created a livecd so it can run on many PC hardware, not as a "we can be free forever" statement; I leave this exercice to the DyneBolic team. I could definitely remove all non-free software from my livecd, but that was not my goal.
I feel very inconfortable with those people that used linux for their works and that they always spit on it. I use different distros for my works (mix video, interactive installation, audio pro recording, live music, printing, website...etc) without one non-free software. So I affirme here, you could have a descent multimedia linux system without any stupid non-free software.
Again, I agree with you. I also feel very unconfortable with stupid non-free software. I also do most of my work with free software. But I needed a livecd with non-free software , nd that might happen again from time to time.
Why don't you try to custom your distro without any non-free software, it could help everyone, show that we could have another option with kanotix to work with multimedia!!! and specially a puredata customed!
Agnula : http://agnula.org Apodio : http://www.apodio.org Dynebolic : http://www.dynebolic.org PLanet CCRMA : http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/software/
I know about those distributions. I agree with their agenda. I tried them all. But I don't have the budget of the Agnula team (millions or euros, all gone), I don't have the bandwidth to host iso images, the time to create a spify web site, marketing resources, help from friends, or a salary from a U.S. university. I just created one livecd with non-free software, like many people do. And if I ever build a new one with only free software, I might not even mention it... -- Marc