Oh Man!

Really sorry for my laziness. I just opened it and saw your name!!¬!
Listen, we're really grateful for your support. There aren't enough books about Pure Data programming out there, and I'm sure my students will find this really helpful.

Once again, I think the person you need to talk to is Hans Cristoph-Steiner, but I am sure he'll read this thread.

Nice to meet you Antonio, even if it was slightly cack-handed from my end ;-)

Ed

 
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On Tuesday, 19 November 2013, 15:15, Antonio Roberts <antonio@hellocatfood.com> wrote:

> I have the book "Multimedia Programming in Pure Data" in front of me, published by Packt, by Brian WC Chung. No mention of Antonio Roberts!
I'm one of the tech reviewers ;-)

> Well in that case I apologise.  Sorry Antonio, I didn't realise you'd
> already published a book with them (blushing).
I didn't publish the book, just did a tech review of it. As I briefly
said in a comment in the G+ thread, it wasn't a bad experience but not
a great one either. I considered it a good way to give back to the
community (yes, I know you have to buy the book) and get my name "out
there", but now that I've done it once I won't be doing it again and
definitely not for them ;-)

(on a separate note I'm also thinking about reviving the Pure Data
Documentation Project)

To me it seems like Packt are a legitimate business but aer telling a
few porkies with regards to royalties

On Tue 19 Nov 2013 14:24:23 GMT, Julian Brooks wrote:
> Hey Ed (& Antonio),
>
> Well in that case I apologise.  Sorry Antonio, I didn't realise you'd
> already published a book with them (blushing).
>
> My first comment was more from a reading of the original link that
> Antonio forwarded.  And from that, Packt look well suss.
>
> There's certainly no shortage of dodgy publishers about (nor record
> labels for that matter) - guess it depends on the deal you can wangle.
>
>
> On 19 November 2013 14:00, Ed Kelly <morph_2016@yahoo.co.uk
> <mailto:morph_2016@yahoo.co.uk>> wrote:
>
>    PS Antonio, nice favicon :)
>
>    Ninja Jamm - a revolutionary new music remix app from Ninja Tune
>    and Seeper, for iPhone and iPad
>    http://www.ninjajamm.com/
>
>
>    Gemnotes-0.2: Live music notation for Pure Data, now with dynamics!
>    http://sharktracks.co.uk/
>
>
>    On , Ed Kelly <morph_2016@yahoo.co.uk
>    <mailto:morph_2016@yahoo.co.uk>> wrote:
>
>        Damn - they changed Yahoo mail recently and I can't seem to
>        find it. However, www.hellocatfood.com
>        <http://www.hellocatfood.com> does indeed seem to be genuine,
>        and Antonio does indeed seem to be a performer with multimedia
>        performer using Pure Data.
>
>        This doesn't look like a hack, but "free money" should always
>        be treated with suspicion I'm sure.
>
>        Probably the best way forward is for one of us to get in touch
>        with Packt publishing and request clarification.
>
>        Cheers,
>        Ed
>
>        Ninja Jamm - a revolutionary new music remix app from Ninja
>        Tune and Seeper, for iPhone and iPad
>        http://www.ninjajamm.com/
>
>
>        Gemnotes-0.2: Live music notation for Pure Data, now with
>        dynamics!
>        http://sharktracks.co.uk/
>
>
>        On , Ed Kelly <morph_2016@yahoo.co.uk
>        <mailto:morph_2016@yahoo.co.uk>> wrote:
>
>            Hmm. I couldn't get the post Antonio was referring to in
>            his email. This could be a very sophisticated form of
>            phishing I suppose. Apologies for my naivety!
>
>            I have the book "Multimedia Programming in Pure Data" in
>            front of me, published by Packt, by Brian WC Chung. No
>            mention of Antonio Roberts!
>
>            I'll just take a look at the header for the email and get
>            back to you. Let's not take too much time in dealing with
>            this.
>
>            Ed
>            Ninja Jamm - a revolutionary new music remix app from
>            Ninja Tune and Seeper, for iPhone and iPad
>            http://www.ninjajamm.com/
>
>
>            Gemnotes-0.2: Live music notation for Pure Data, now with
>            dynamics!
>            http://sharktracks.co.uk/
>
>
>            On Tuesday, 19 November 2013, 13:41, Julian Brooks
>            <jbeezez@gmail.com <mailto:jbeezez@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>                Is this some kind of so-dry-I-don't-get-it humour 'cos
>                they look well suss
>
>                J
>
>
>                On 19 November 2013 13:21, Ed Kelly
>                <morph_2016@yahoo.co.uk
>                <mailto:morph_2016@yahoo.co.uk>> wrote:
>
>                    Wow!
>
>                    Is the Pd foundation up and running? I haven't
>                    followed the news (if there is any) regarding this.
>
>                    Perhaps this is within your scope Hans?
>
>                    Ed
>
>                    Ninja Jamm - a revolutionary new music remix app
>                    from Ninja Tune and Seeper, for iPhone and iPad
>                    http://www.ninjajamm.com/
>
>
>                    Gemnotes-0.2: Live music notation for Pure Data,
>                    now with dynamics!
>                    http://sharktracks.co.uk/
>
>
>                    On Monday, 18 November 2013, 19:53, Antonio
>                    Roberts <antonio@hellocatfood.com
>                    <mailto:antonio@hellocatfood.com>> wrote:
>
>                        A representative of Packt Publishing recently
>                        put out a call to
>                        developers of open source software packages
>                        that are covered in their
>                        books to get in contact regarding royalties.
>                        They claim that they give
>                        money to the authors _and_ the project that
>                        the book is based upon.
>                        Text below:
>
>                        "I'm sorry that we haven't yet been able to
>                        make this clear. I will
>                        have this looked in to and revised for clarity.
>                        But, to confirm, authors receive royalties on
>                        sales of their books but
>                        we also give a royalty, where the book is
>                        based on an Open Source
>                        software or system, to the Project.
>                        I'm not at liberty to disclose the names of
>                        projects that have
>                        received this royalty, only that cumulatively
>                        we have given out a
>                        large sum of money to them.
>                        Please also treat this as a call out to any
>                        Open Source project that
>                        we have published on to get in touch with me
>                        should they not be
>                        receiving their royalties, we can only send
>                        them to you if we have
>                        your details :) "
>
>                        Full thread here:
>                        https://plus.google.com/113862800338869870683/posts/PDVcovR7Sir
>                        <https://plus.google.com/113862800338869870683/posts/PDVcovR7Sir>See
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