Really sorry for my laziness. I just opened it and saw your name!!¬! Listen, we're really grateful for your support. There aren't enough books about Pure Data programming out there, and I'm sure my students will find this really helpful.
That's why I agreed to do it. I think there's plenty of resources out there for PD music/audio programming but none dedicated to just visuals. The book was a bit too basic for my needs, but it would've been invaluable to me three years ago!
Also, no need to thank me, I didn't write it! Regardless, I'm glad that you/your students will find it useful. I'm glad the book now exists, I just wish Packt were clearer on the whole royalties situation.
Once again, I think the person you need to talk to is Hans Cristoph-Steiner, but I am sure he'll read this thread.
Hopefully he will. Packt do a lot of books about open source software so I'll be interested in hearing if those projects get royalties/support as well.
Nice to meet you Antonio, even if it was slightly cack-handed from my end ;-)
No harm done ;-) Out of interest, where do you teach?
Antonio
On Tue 19 Nov 2013 15:40:35 GMT, Ed Kelly wrote:
Oh Man!
Really sorry for my laziness. I just opened it and saw your name!!¬! Listen, we're really grateful for your support. There aren't enough books about Pure Data programming out there, and I'm sure my students will find this really helpful.
Once again, I think the person you need to talk to is Hans Cristoph-Steiner, but I am sure he'll read this thread.
Nice to meet you Antonio, even if it was slightly cack-handed from my end ;-)
Ed
Ninja Jamm - a revolutionary new music remix app from Ninja Tune and Seeper, for iPhone and iPad http://www.ninjajamm.com/
Gemnotes-0.2: Live music notation for Pure Data, now with dynamics! http://sharktracks.co.uk/
On Tuesday, 19 November 2013, 15:15, Antonio Roberts antonio@hellocatfood.com wrote:
> I have the book "Multimedia Programming in Pure Data" in front of me, published by Packt, by Brian WC Chung. No mention of Antonio Roberts! I'm one of the tech reviewers ;-) > Well in that case I apologise. Sorry Antonio, I didn't realise you'd > already published a book with them (blushing). I didn't publish the book, just did a tech review of it. As I briefly said in a comment in the G+ thread, it wasn't a bad experience but not a great one either. I considered it a good way to give back to the community (yes, I know you have to buy the book) and get my name "out there", but now that I've done it once I won't be doing it again and definitely not for them ;-) (on a separate note I'm also thinking about reviving the Pure Data Documentation Project) To me it seems like Packt are a legitimate business but aer telling a few porkies with regards to royalties On Tue 19 Nov 2013 14:24:23 GMT, Julian Brooks wrote: > Hey Ed (& Antonio), > > Well in that case I apologise. Sorry Antonio, I didn't realise you'd > already published a book with them (blushing). > > My first comment was more from a reading of the original link that > Antonio forwarded. And from that, Packt look well suss. > > There's certainly no shortage of dodgy publishers about (nor record > labels for that matter) - guess it depends on the deal you can wangle. > > > On 19 November 2013 14:00, Ed Kelly <morph_2016@yahoo.co.uk <mailto:morph_2016@yahoo.co.uk> > <mailto:morph_2016@yahoo.co.uk <mailto:morph_2016@yahoo.co.uk>>> wrote: > > PS Antonio, nice favicon :) > > Ninja Jamm - a revolutionary new music remix app from Ninja Tune > and Seeper, for iPhone and iPad > http://www.ninjajamm.com/ > > > Gemnotes-0.2: Live music notation for Pure Data, now with dynamics! > http://sharktracks.co.uk/ > > > On , Ed Kelly <morph_2016@yahoo.co.uk <mailto:morph_2016@yahoo.co.uk> > <mailto:morph_2016@yahoo.co.uk <mailto:morph_2016@yahoo.co.uk>>> wrote: > > Damn - they changed Yahoo mail recently and I can't seem to > find it. However, www.hellocatfood.com > <http://www.hellocatfood.com <http://www.hellocatfood.com/>> does indeed seem to be genuine, > and Antonio does indeed seem to be a performer with multimedia > performer using Pure Data. > > This doesn't look like a hack, but "free money" should always > be treated with suspicion I'm sure. > > Probably the best way forward is for one of us to get in touch > with Packt publishing and request clarification. > > Cheers, > Ed > > Ninja Jamm - a revolutionary new music remix app from Ninja > Tune and Seeper, for iPhone and iPad > http://www.ninjajamm.com/ > > > Gemnotes-0.2: Live music notation for Pure Data, now with > dynamics! > http://sharktracks.co.uk/ > > > On , Ed Kelly <morph_2016@yahoo.co.uk <mailto:morph_2016@yahoo.co.uk> > <mailto:morph_2016@yahoo.co.uk <mailto:morph_2016@yahoo.co.uk>>> wrote: > > Hmm. I couldn't get the post Antonio was referring to in > his email. This could be a very sophisticated form of > phishing I suppose. Apologies for my naivety! > > I have the book "Multimedia Programming in Pure Data" in > front of me, published by Packt, by Brian WC Chung. No > mention of Antonio Roberts! > > I'll just take a look at the header for the email and get > back to you. Let's not take too much time in dealing with > this. > > Ed > Ninja Jamm - a revolutionary new music remix app from > Ninja Tune and Seeper, for iPhone and iPad > http://www.ninjajamm.com/ > > > Gemnotes-0.2: Live music notation for Pure Data, now with > dynamics! > http://sharktracks.co.uk/ > > > On Tuesday, 19 November 2013, 13:41, Julian Brooks > <jbeezez@gmail.com <mailto:jbeezez@gmail.com> <mailto:jbeezez@gmail.com <mailto:jbeezez@gmail.com>>> wrote: > > Is this some kind of so-dry-I-don't-get-it humour 'cos > they look well suss > > J > > > On 19 November 2013 13:21, Ed Kelly > <morph_2016@yahoo.co.uk <mailto:morph_2016@yahoo.co.uk> > <mailto:morph_2016@yahoo.co.uk <mailto:morph_2016@yahoo.co.uk>>> wrote: > > Wow! > > Is the Pd foundation up and running? I haven't > followed the news (if there is any) regarding this. > > Perhaps this is within your scope Hans? > > Ed > > Ninja Jamm - a revolutionary new music remix app > from Ninja Tune and Seeper, for iPhone and iPad > http://www.ninjajamm.com/ > > > Gemnotes-0.2: Live music notation for Pure Data, > now with dynamics! > http://sharktracks.co.uk/ > > > On Monday, 18 November 2013, 19:53, Antonio > Roberts <antonio@hellocatfood.com <mailto:antonio@hellocatfood.com> > <mailto:antonio@hellocatfood.com <mailto:antonio@hellocatfood.com>>> wrote: > > A representative of Packt Publishing recently > put out a call to > developers of open source software packages > that are covered in their > books to get in contact regarding royalties. > They claim that they give > money to the authors _and_ the project that > the book is based upon. > Text below: > > "I'm sorry that we haven't yet been able to > make this clear. I will > have this looked in to and revised for clarity. > But, to confirm, authors receive royalties on > sales of their books but > we also give a royalty, where the book is > based on an Open Source > software or system, to the Project. > I'm not at liberty to disclose the names of > projects that have > received this royalty, only that cumulatively > we have given out a > large sum of money to them. > Please also treat this as a call out to any > Open Source project that > we have published on to get in touch with me > should they not be > receiving their royalties, we can only send > them to you if we have > your details :) " > > Full thread here: > https://plus.google.com/113862800338869870683/posts/PDVcovR7Sir > <https://plus.google.com/113862800338869870683/posts/PDVcovR7Sir>See > last comment from Jonathan Titmus > > -- > ============================ > antonio@hellocatfood.com <mailto:antonio@hellocatfood.com> > <mailto:antonio@hellocatfood.com <mailto:antonio@hellocatfood.com>> > http://www.hellocatfood.com <http://www.hellocatfood.com/> > <http://www.hellocatfood.com/> > ============================ > > _______________________________________________ > Pd-ot mailing list > Pd-ot@iem.at <mailto:Pd-ot@iem.at> <mailto:Pd-ot@iem.at <mailto:Pd-ot@iem.at>> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-ot > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pd-ot mailing list > Pd-ot@iem.at <mailto:Pd-ot@iem.at> <mailto:Pd-ot@iem.at <mailto:Pd-ot@iem.at>> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-ot > > > > > > > > >