On Mon, April 10, 2006 2:12 pm, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:
Frank Barknecht wrote:
To me pd-announce is a subset of pd-list for those people who don't want to follow every discussion and flame war, but don't want to miss important announcements either.
I'd really like it to be such a subset. If it was such a subset. But facts are that it isn't (- and that is why i surgested to make it so, that the intersection between the to lists would be empty).
If it really was a subset it would become redudant to be subscirbed to both the pd-list and the pd-annouce list. So if one were subscribed to the pd-list one would not need allso to be subscribed to the pd-annouce list. Now it isn't redudant since there are (or potentionally are) mails sendt to the pd-announce list there are not crossposted to the pd-list list.
pd-list has manymany more subscribers than pd-announce, so I guess, many pd-list subscribers either don't want to read pd-related announcements - I doubt this - or many pd-list subscribers just don't know about pd-announce or didn't bother to subscribe. All these people would miss pd-announcements on pd-announce, unless they are crossposted to pd-list. That's the reason why I cross-post to both lists. I'd like to continue to be allowed to cross-post, because it is unlikely that we will get several hundreds of pd-list subscribers not yet subscribed to pd-announce to change their subscription habits.
a simple solution would be to add the entire pd-list to the pd-announce subscribers and set all subscribees (is that the word?) of pd-announce who are also subscribed to pd-list to "no-mail" so they don't get cross-postings.
Or an easy fix to the above subset-problem could be to add pd-list to the pd-announce list.
Announcements will the need only to be sendt to the pd-announce list, which per auto will send it to the pd-list list. Subscribers of the pd-announce list would get there announcments, and so would subscribers of the pd-list list.
Since the redudance problem would be solved, the set of members of the two lists would then have an empty intersection. In other words: it will satisfies Franks wish from the first quote.
However, there will be two minor issues. First, there might be members of the pd-list who potentinally could argue that they don't like to get unwanthed announcement mails, since they only subscribed to the pd-list list and not allso the pd-announce list. But, as Frank said, that is highly unlikely.
Seceondly...
Regarding posts from non-subscribers: I'd vote for keeping pd-announce open to them.
as stated previously, i am also tending towards such a solution.
... It will allow non-subscribers to indirectly post to the pd-list list. I'm not sure if that will be a real problem, as the pd-announce list (from where the mail from non-scribers comes) are being moderated by a community member.
all the best, steffen