On Thursday, Dec 18, 2003, at 20:26 America/New_York, RTaylor wrote:
The label "Hans-Christoph Steiner" hathe been affixed to this message,
On Thursday, Dec 18, 2003, at 04:36 Europe/Brussels, RTaylor wrote:
The label "Hans-Christoph Steiner" hathe been affixed to this message,
You're thinking just the ©?
For a more complete explanation of what I mean, check out the old BSD license with the attribution clause. If I released a score to a piece of music under the GPL, then anyone could perform it without giving credit in the program, advertising, etc. An attribution clause, says that whenever the piece of work in question is mentioned, or anything that uses it, attribution must be giving in ads, published materials, etc. This is very different than just leaving the copyright intact with the name on it.
In other words you want CREDIT. ... Like "Nigel Rathbone's Tales of Trailers" or "Marimba Freidkiens Kitchen Sexuality".
Somehow that just doesn't seem to be in keeping with the concept of open source. It also strikes me as being overly pretentious... Like I'd be much more likely to simply use your idea and write my own code. {Like most everyone else would.} If I were to attribute someone that heavily it would be out of respect... not because of some clause in a contract...
I've always seen that sort of thing as a sort of way of sucking off of the authors reputation in order to advertise a product, anyway. Why don't you wait until you have one and then re-negotiate your contract?
I mean... Take a look at the posters here...
Before you launch into minor tirades, I suggest you read what I have
Why are you expecting a tirade?
been writing a little more closely. I have said all along that all of my software is released under the GPL, therefore no attribution clause. What I am trying to get at is to apply free software ideas to other realms, like a musical score for example. A musical score is not software so there is a good chance that the license issues will be different.
Yeah. Same deal... what I see you wanting is something more than most folk expect. ...Like Stephen King or someone. They put his name on stuff so they can sell it... His name is as much the product as the product. I don't know who "Hans-Christoph Steiner" is outside of this thread... Your name is not a selling point.
Take a look at some music sites... think about how much credit an author actually gets {frequently the only place someone will be credited is in parenthesis next to the song name on the disk label.} What I see you wanting is is going to be going to be "difficult" for everyone involved... It's like you're expecting other folk to advertise you. If you're not involved with the actual project I don't see why you think you're entitled to more than any other author.
Actually, all I am asking for is to attributed just like Stephen King is. You cannot get his writing in a format that does not have his name on the front of it. But the key difference is that I would like to release everything open source with the hope that others will as well. The CC Attribution license ensures this, but I think that attribution clauses can cause big problems in open source work in the long run.
.hc
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